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Hello everyone!
And back into battle!
1. Atheism is NOT a BELIEF.
Where there is no light, there is darkness. But darkness is not a wave of particles; it is simply the absence of light. The same applies here. There is a belief in religion. The absence of belief is atheism.
2. There are NO absolute atheists.
Chance, Chaos, Luck, Good, Evil, Justice, Love, and other gods created by consciousness.
Every atheist believes in something, even if they don't call it gods, but the very fact of the existence of such images is present.
3. Alexey Pank likes the USSR; my acquaintance (a party member, who held a good position) also liked it. And he regrets the collapse of the Union. But to talk about communism as a good religion is, at the very least, to be unaware of the very facts that Mr. Pank demands of us.
I don't have data on the USSR, but I remember about America.
In general, in 1961-3, the Bible and prayer were removed from education in America. In the first ten years, the crime rate increased by 1000%. The number of suicides, crimes among young people and teenagers, and so on, increased by 500%. The percentages grew every year. I don't remember the exact statistics, but now in America:
1) Every 15 seconds - a burglary or robbery
2) Every 1 minute - a rape
3) Every 5 minutes - a murder.
This is what atheism leads to. And there are also communist organizations, supported by the government, that use financial resources to spread communism.
From the point of view of communism, the life of one person is nothing. Born-died, born-died. People are insects, and there is only one good goal - paradise on Earth. But you won't see it. Try to work for the good of the future. But it never came. In reality, it was just bread for the party members, and opium for the people. What are bananas, oranges, good sausage, things, a computer? - these are the leftovers of the bourgeoisie, and they are not needed in the USSR. You are a herd, here is a piece of bread, a bottle of ink, a pension, what else do you need? Work for the good of the decaying socialist society. And as for science, excuse me. Japan developed science without such a policy; all that is needed is state support.
Ganymede, I don't understand what you want to prove in this thread? The question in the thread is specific. Are you just trying to say that everyone should believe in what they want? Right? A picture hangs in the second room. And in the first, there are tools for drawing, a sketch, frames. In the first, other pictures hang. In addition, the second person saw the picture.
1) He says:
- Look at the facts, there are already pictures here, why shouldn't there be one in the other room?
- There is probably an artist living here; you can see the sketch, but there is no picture. Maybe it hangs in the second room?
- I saw it, believe me, it's there, and it's wonderful! :)
Ganymede:
1) I haven't seen it, so I can believe you or not.
2) The sketch and everything else don't prove anything. You CANNOT prove it to me.
Answer:
- I can't, and I don't even want to. Because you DON'T WANT to think about it; your worldview is already formed, you filter out all the words that don't go along with it, you don't want to be convinced. Even if I bring you a photograph of it, you will say that it still doesn't prove anything. Your worldview says that atoms collide with each other, there is chaos everywhere - and as a result, there is a picture. Exactly. Through chance, a reasonable fruit can appear. After all, a picture is a product of a being with reason, isn't it? No? Chance? Chaos? I understand. First, a leaf appeared by chance, then outlines, then a picture and a frame. Everything became more and more complex...
And also, gentlemen. The Egyptians carved images of pharaohs, or rather, their faces, into the rocks. It was hard work and a colossal undertaking.
So, two people, a believer and an atheist, are standing and looking at such rocks.
Believer:
People tried hard to create something like this! It clearly has a reasonable creator.
Atheist:
- No, my friend, you are mistaken. Millions of years of work by wind and water, and as a result, there is such a miracle