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#107
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"Look, I beat it on Impossible without any losses! One red dragon under invisibility and with devour + Armageddon is all you need! I'm incredibly awesome, aren't I?".
But why is he considered a "redneck"? He figured out such a trick, which means he's at least not stupid.
I didn't understand what you meant, but the technical part helped me understand the rant of one of the players on the forum when he wrote, "My Aryman on Normal turned out to be harder than on Impossible. What the...???".
I meant that, according to you, it seems that I only need to read the plot of a book or watch a movie to judge them? For example, I say that "Gentlemen of Fortune" is garbage because I read the plot on the wiki and didn't like it.
Why? Breasts are rated 16+, and the difficulty of games is rated 10+. That is, to play, you need to be 16 years old with the brains of a 10-year-old. That's exactly what idiots are.
Can you give an example of a game with an 18+ difficulty level?
Not only normal players but also "rednecks" were dissatisfied. Because of the extremely poor balance, which created incredible difficulties at the start of the game.
So, the problem isn't that the game is aimed at "rednecks," but that the developer is incompetent?
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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Ple-Sen
Do you know the term "non-linear plot"?
Is it when, depending on the player's choice, the game progresses differently and ends differently?
Ple-Sen
Or to enjoy a good story and the atmosphere of the game.
Well, yes, I agree. Personally, I have nothing against such players.

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Please be more specific. And preferably, give examples from turn-based games (they appeal to me the most).
AoW3 seems to have a decent plot, and overall... It's a very appealing game in many ways.
 

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Is this when, depending on the player's decision, the game progresses differently and ends differently?
Yes.

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AoW3 has a pretty good plot, and overall... It's a very appealing game in many ways.
The plot is quite typical for games of this genre. But the gameplay is very good. Especially compared to King's Bounty.
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But why is he a "redneck"? He figured out such a trick, which means he is at least not stupid.
Because a normal player wouldn't rejoice at such a "baby-beating" tactic.
Siverfale
I meant that, according to your words, it turns out that I just need to read the plot of a book or movie to judge them? For example, I say that "Gentlemen of Fortune" is garbage because I read the plot on the wiki and didn't like it.
If you don't like the plot in a movie/book, what else could you possibly like?:confused: And a game is not just about the plot, but also about the combat.
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Can you give an example of a game with an 18+ difficulty?
Download my mod for Lords of the Realm from Softclub, which features heroes in the arena. I think "Impossible" mode there corresponds to 18+ (in terms of difficulty, of course, there are no "boobs" there).:D As for official releases, I don't know. I am convinced that there are none...:(
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So, the problem is not in catering to "rednecks," but in the fact that the developer is incompetent?
I meant the orientation from the publishers. Why did "1ass" choose an "incompetent" developer instead of giving money to Gusarov for another good game? In my opinion, the answer is: "Because why pay more if the "rednecks" will eat it up anyway?" Indeed, they built a map, added units, wrote a few more scripts, and tweaked something else. And here you go. How many people worked on all this, and it took 2 years??? One? Two? Three? They didn't even bother to fix the AI behavior scripts. Here's a clear example in "Warlords": they made the geyser attack units immune to magic, but if you only take those units into your army (for example, black, ice dragons, and whoever else...), the computer won't use that geyser. Why? Because the AI behavior script is old and says "the geyser won't affect anyone."

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How many people worked on this, considering it took 2 years to create all of this? Just one? Two? Three?
Ah, but in Team Shanghai Alice, there's only one person...

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Because a normal player wouldn't rejoice at such a "baby-beating" scenario.
But he did? He figured it out? He analyzed the game mechanics, identified their weak points, and struck them through like a master swordsman? Isn't he, after that, just a commoner? And how is this different from grinding Phantom Inquisitors or something similar?
If you don't like the plot in a movie/book, what else could you possibly like about it?
So, you read the plot on a wiki before going to the cinema, and then you decide whether to go or not with a clear conscience?
I think "Impossible" mode corresponds to 18+ in terms of difficulty.
And how does this manifest itself? We have Alexiglu, who is 15 years old; you claim that completing this mod will be an absolutely impossible task for him?
In my opinion, the answer is: "Because why pay more if the commoners will eat it up anyway?".
But it didn't eat it up – so, it turns out that the commoners have nothing to do with it, because they didn't start voting with their wallets for garbage instead of a game, right?
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Where do we end up when we save the world?
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Siverfale
But he did manage it, didn't he? He figured it out? He analyzed the game mechanics, identified the weak points, and, like a master swordsman, struck them right in the heart? Is he still a "redneck" after that?
If he was the first to do it, then maybe you're right. But a normal person would say, "What are these balance issues, gentlemen?" Many people said something similar after patch 1.6 for LoR.
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And how is this different from endlessly grinding Inquisitor Phantoms or something?
At least in the second case, you have to at least make sure you don't get wiped out before you wipe them out (otherwise, there will be no one to "grind" with). In the first case, it's impossible to lose because the computer doesn't deal any damage.
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So, you read the plot on the wiki before going to the cinema, and then you can decide whether or not to go to the cinema with a clear conscience?
Something like that. :D
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And how does this manifest itself? We have Alexiglu, who is 15 years old, and you claim that completing this mod will be an absolutely impossible task for him?
Well, why not? I think he'll manage it on easy, just like all the other players in the 1st and 2nd categories. And even casual players will cope, although maybe they'll have to turn off auto-battle for that.
But as for the "impossible" difficulty, I don't know... I personally struggled to complete it.
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But it didn't sell well – so, "rednecks" aren't involved here, because they didn't start voting with their wallets for garbage instead of a game, right?
I don't have access to sales statistics to draw any conclusions. But maybe they went too far with the "careless attitude."
The problems in the starting battles in "Warlords" didn't bother the "rednecks" because, due to the losses in those battles, they didn't see the coveted zero in the "your losses" column.
But normal players were unhappy with what happened after those battles (you come, you see, you kill everyone).
In "Dark Sides," as far as I know, the same thing happened.

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In the first case, it is impossible to lose, because the computer does not inflict any damage.
Mana might run out. Even if you replenish it using Rage and Concentration, these sources are still limited after a certain round, right?
Also, these methods don't work at the beginning of the game, and at the end, it's generally easy to find a more or less winning tactic and win all the battles, as I think. So, the only downside of this tactic is its excessive ease, which will reduce the player's enjoyment of the game (although this depends on the player).
 

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Ment
You might run out of mana.
I beg you... Even 200 mana towards the end of the game in LoD was enough for 4 Armageddons, after which only pitiful remnants of the enemy remained, even on the highest difficulty. In "War of the Ancients" with "Flame Ice" towards the end, it's about 300, I don't know about TS.
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So, the only downside of this tactic is its excessive ease, which will reduce the player's enjoyment of the game (although this depends on the player).
That's why
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a normal person would say, "What are these balance issues, gentlemen?"
and only a boor is happy with this state of affairs.

No, you can, of course, say, "Well, no one is forcing you, blah-blah-blah..." But the point is that if you put it all together, a terrible picture emerges...:(

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I beg you... Even 200 mana at the end of the game in LoD was enough for 4 Armageddons, after which only pitiful remnants of the enemy remained, even on the highest difficulty. In "War of the Ancients" with "Flame of Ice," there were about 300 at the end, I don't know about in Trials of Strength.
In the Dark side, even at the end, armies of Red Skins roam around, with several thousand soldiers in each unit. There are dozens, maybe hundreds, of level 5 creatures – I don't remember exactly. And the Armageddon spell doesn't affect the Red Skins at all.
I don't remember the armies in LoD at all (and I didn't even finish it), but in PvP, there weren't exactly few of them... Well, in short, yes, if that's the situation, then the tactic is probably usable, but not in Trials of Strength.
A normal person would say, "What are these balance issues, gentlemen?"
And only a boor is happy with this state of affairs.
I might also abuse it; I don't see anything wrong with that. Balance issues? Well, yes, of course. But why shouldn't I use it if I found it and it allows me to legally, without cheats, complete the game? ) And if I don't like it because it's become too easy, and I quit the game halfway through... I can, with a clear conscience, blame the developers' mistakes, which is generally true. ;)
 

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Ment
The red-skinned Armageddon creature doesn't take them.
In the TS, I didn't even look at the "technical part" much, so I don't know much. Who are the "red-skinned" and why doesn't Armageddon take them?
Ment
I would also, maybe, abuse it, I don't see anything wrong with that. Balance issues? Well, yes, of course. But why shouldn't I use it if I found it and it allows me to legally, without cheats, complete the game?
So, how about it, interesting?:smile04:
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And if I don't like it because everything has become too easy, and I quit the game halfway through...
Personally, in this case, I feel sorry for the wasted time. Because I didn't get any pleasure from the game, but I spent time...:(

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Evil Lizard, I would advise you to buy the game on Battle.net. It has everything: hardcore gameplay, esports, and you can even earn money. You're just talking nonsense, frankly. No one plays your lore anymore; I've never even played it.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день