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Offline SnowmanV2
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With Jen Li, the number of possible players decreases by a few with each round. It's more complicated with Cain; he has immunity to block and isolation. We might have to wait a long time before there's an acceptable number of players left for him.
Are you sure you'll have enough time? The final day is approaching! That is, after the fifth night, there will be no one left to eliminate roles.
The author-work connection is actually quite a good clue. It's not like a film-actor, where you can have a ton of actors or films. I like the Shaman clue more than the Alex clue.
Hmm... I don't understand. Author-work is the clue for Alex, and films and the director who made many other, more popular films are the clue for Shaman. You said everything exactly the opposite.
However, I think the Mafia will target each other.
And I think the Mafia won't just give the city a victory by self-eliminating.

And, by the way, there's only one argument for Shaman – the clue. Which you also criticized, attributing it to Alex.

And even if you were absolutely right, it would still make more sense to eliminate Alex.

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Are you sure you'll have enough time? The Day of Judgment is coming! That is, after the fifth night, there will be no one left to exclude roles.
Before the Day of Judgment, or rather, the night, there will be another newspaper that will help to more accurately determine who Jen Li is. If we execute Alex now, and he is a Town member, then things will be much worse for us than if we execute Cain.
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Hmm... I don't understand. Author-work is a clue for Alex, and films and the director who filmed many other, more popular films are clues for the Shaman. You said everything is accurate, but the opposite.
Author-work are both clues; I was writing about such a connection in general. I like the clue for the Shaman more not because of the connection, but mainly because the clue itself fits well into the chain.
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And I think that the Mafia won't just give the town a victory by self-eliminating.
The town members are still needed for recruitment. Therefore, it is more profitable for them to kill their competitors.
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And even if you were absolutely right, it would still make more sense to hang Alex.
Your last argument depends on the moment in time. On the next game day, it will weigh three times more than it does now.
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And even more so, there’s no need to resort to insults, even if they are veiled.
Sorry, Snegovik, if I said something wrong… You know me; I don't usually get angry at people, and this definitely isn't one of those cases. If you took the second part of my post personally, then no, it was directed at myself. Here is a proof.
 

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Freedom, Independence, 1998 - Cards, money, two guns - United Kingdom - Jamaica Independence (Dag)
I, by the way, didn't understand this solution from Shaman at all.
 

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I'm a bit confused right now, should I eliminate the Shaman or Alex? I'll think about it with a fresh mind tomorrow (that is, today).
By the way, regarding the poll, there's a correct answer among the Uranus options.
I'm too f*cking old
To sell my soul
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I agree with Koshey; Ment looks more like a stoned civilian than a Mafia member. Snow, however, also looks like a civilian who is panicking before the inevitable fifth night, which is why he is rushing around, not knowing what to do. The clues are interesting, but I will hold off on voting for now. I might come up with my own ideas. In principle, both Shaman and Alex could be negative roles. Or they might not be. Both were accused of inactivity in peaceful roles. On the other hand, even if we vote out a civilian, it will reduce the possibility of new recruits. On the third hand, Alex/Shaman might be non-recruitable roles, so there are no advantages to voting them out. Will going into NNV be a solution?
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Just to be clear, the ultimate abilities of the mafia bosses in night 5 are activated simultaneously.
Кампании для Heroes V 3.1 (Трилогия):

Пробуждение зла
Нашествие из Преисподней
Смена эпох

Скачать все кампании одним архивом: Яндекс.Диск Google.Диск

You can download the set of 3 Campaigns (English version) here

Одиночные сценарии Heroes V 3.1:

Незваные гости
Красный кристалл
Синий кристалл
Закат тьмы

Мультиплеерные карты для Heroes V 3.1:

Легендарная война
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The internet keeps disconnecting, so I can’t promise I’ll be able to revote this evening.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Before the day of judgment, or rather, the night, there will be another newspaper that will help to more accurately determine who Jen Li is. If we execute Alex now, and he is a minor character, then things will be much worse than if we execute Kane.

Author-work – both are clues; I wrote about such a connection in itself. I like the clue about the Shaman more not because of the connection, but mainly because the clue itself fits well into the chain.

The City dwellers are still needed for recruitment. Therefore, it is more profitable for them to kill their competitors.

Your last argument depends on the moment in time. In the next game day, it will weigh three times more than it does now.


I am just worried that it may simply not be possible to get rid of even one of the main mafia bosses in one day plus one and a half nights. After all, it is not a fact that they do not have protection. But since even the author of the clue considers his clue not promising enough, then, perhaps, the probability that Alex is Li becomes less.
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Master, if a Mafia Boss, without physical damage protection, uses his ultimate ability on Player B, and this player has a date with a Mage that night, whose magic will be stronger? Will the Mage defeat the Boss?
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Master, if a Mafia Boss without physical damage protection uses his ultimate ability on Player B, and this player has a date with a Mana player that night, whose magic will be stronger? Will the Mana player defeat the Boss?
He will defeat him.
Кампании для Heroes V 3.1 (Трилогия):

Пробуждение зла
Нашествие из Преисподней
Смена эпох

Скачать все кампании одним архивом: Яндекс.Диск Google.Диск

You can download the set of 3 Campaigns (English version) here

Одиночные сценарии Heroes V 3.1:

Незваные гости
Красный кристалл
Синий кристалл
Закат тьмы

Мультиплеерные карты для Heroes V 3.1:

Легендарная война
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Offline Sesame
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Then you need to find Zero and remove his protection. Lee doesn't have any protection anyway. The only question is, how do you find someone who doesn't stand out and leaves no clues?

I hope he understood the hint and saves the Date for the 5th night.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Lee doesn't have any defense anyway.
Why is that? I don't understand.
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Offline Sesame
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You are right, there is. I didn't read it carefully and assumed it only provided immunity to psychic attacks. Then we need to look for that as well.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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