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I'll put it this way - if Yashura was infected, he lost one action that very night. And it could very well have been an ultimate ability.

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So, based on the fact that Heroist is Crow, Yashura is Rick, and Kent (incarnation 1) is Milton.
Vishmaster is not
- Li, that's for sure
Most likely not (remember that Nancy can shift blame, and Richie is alive)
- grandma
- addict
In general, it's definitely not worth executing him based on the evidence against Li.

Is there an "R" in the name? The answer "yes" almost eliminates all mafia roles - but only if he's telling the truth.
Nancy DaRk
Ru
CoRnelius
FaRmeR
Ricchi
NyuRa
The "R" in the words "doctor" and "rastaman" doesn't seem to relate to the name.

If it's a lie:
addict
Cain
doctor
Levi
Zero
maniac

I'm not sure about the answers to the other questions yet.

The fragment is not
- Li, again
- with a very high probability, not Cain
everything else fits.

Why wasn't there a vote in the second night?
1) Yashura did indeed use his ability on grandma in the second night (he definitely used it on someone, because he knew he was infected; if he had an ultimate ability left, he would have used it, but instead, the Heroist is dead).
2) The vote in the second night was aimed (redirected) at Ment or the Heroist. This is supported by the fact that Vish was almost executed; it would be logical to find out if it was correct or not.
3) there wasn't one at all, but we don't see the effect of the psychic attack (it's a very strange story that a physimmune came to the confused person, instead of giving information to the town... it doesn't seem logical for an unrecruited Nyura).

Man was indeed on a date - and no one came to his victim (or a physimmune came). And in the first night, it was probably the same. [Nyura was also with Nancy in the first night, but didn't do anything in the second]. But I don't have any facts; you can just sit in the bushes and do nothing else, and that's not forbidden.

The leaders were recruiting, that's obvious. But both attempts were unsuccessful, which is good.

Update: Nabucco - King Nebuchadnezzar, in his honor, Verdi's opera and a gas pipeline are also named. How is this supposed to be guessed? There are so many options. Even if the first association is Nabucco - Nebuchadnezzar. ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Навуходоносор_(значения)
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The grandmother's survey doesn't seem to be redirected. It's not blocked, and it displays correctly when accessed on the Live environment.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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- Rumors, gossip. Questions the player, asking 3 questions. The answers to 2 of them are TRUE, and 1 is FALSE. No more than 1 question about faction affiliation, no more than 2 questions about statuses, no more than 1 question about the presence of a specific type of neutral creature, no more than one question about the character (e.g., gender), and no more than 1 question about weapons. Asking other questions is prohibited. It does not block progress. (I)
It turns out that redirection is possible.
- Actions directed at Jen Li are not displayed in the newspaper. Exception: the survey from Baba Nyura.
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I was looking at it like this:
- Sleight of hand and no trickery. Forces the target to apply its own negative effect on itself. Ultimate actions and the "Baba Nyura" poll cannot be redirected.
But it could have some kind of redirection and review.
In general, in sets, the journalist poll is usually made non-redirectable. So as not to bother with receiving negative effects.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Nancy can use Crow's ability and redirect the poll away from herself. But yes, that's very unlikely.
Update: There's also an exception for the poll there. Yes, it can't be redirected.
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As far as I remember, Yashur mentioned that Lyuska had already infected two people. Does this mean he was infected on the second night, not the first? I can’t find his post right now.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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He wouldn't have died then. He has 2 special abilities and 2 actions. That is, at the end of the second night, he was still alive and had nothing.
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a, here he is /topic/at/861202/
Lyuska, are you at it again? Go on, go on… Keep up the good work. We have too many city dwellers, you know… We need to fix that… By the way, yesterday you seem to have “rewarded” someone with a three-pack of mountain arrows. Or maybe a maniac…
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Fragment
Yashur was infected on the first night, but died only now. Master, does the burning of traits and ND only begin on the night after infection? Is the burning effect displayed in the newspaper?

No, not in the current one.
Кампании для Heroes V 3.1 (Трилогия):

Пробуждение зла
Нашествие из Преисподней
Смена эпох

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Одиночные сценарии Heroes V 3.1:

Незваные гости
Красный кристалл
Синий кристалл
Закат тьмы

Мультиплеерные карты для Heroes V 3.1:

Легендарная война
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Uranium235
Could it be Lizard Rick? But that girl is a real maniac; what incredible sniper skills she has.
Maybe it was a maniac after all? I still think that in that night, he used his ultimate ability, and such an ultimate ability would be quite logical.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Regarding names starting with the letter "P," that's a very interesting idea, I support it!
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Someone tried to escape the infected by venturing deeper into the jungle, but they encountered someone they definitely didn't expect to see there. Fortunately, they managed to hide from the stranger in time, as an encounter with them clearly wouldn't lead to anything good.
This is a "first night" encounter with a maniac, presented as a fact.

And if it is an encounter, then there was no ultimate ability used.

First infection
After turning over to the other side again, I noticed that my neighbor was also suffering from insomnia. Something was clearly bothering him. I tried to ask what happened, but he didn't answer me for a long time, being lost in his thoughts. Finally, he broke his silence with a quiet whisper:
"You know, I feel very uneasy. I feel like something is wrong inside me. It's like I'm burning from the inside!"
I immediately suggested that he seek help from a doctor, to which he replied with a sharp refusal. "Ah, I knew I should have taken precautions...", he said and went back to his worries.
Second infection.
Another one kept complaining about feeling unwell, which only annoyed those around him. I don't know about others, but I think I figured out what might be causing his discomfort. Well, you know, there are different rumors going around...
The author wrote that isolation from Levi and not from Levi (that is, Nancy or the maniac) is portrayed differently.
Are these infections portrayed differently?

Death from infection occurs when there is nothing left to "burn," that is, when there are no actions or abilities left. Rick has 2 actions and 2 abilities. He dies on the next night when the second pair "burns out" - or the night after, when there is simply nothing left to burn?

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And I don't see any actions from Mana this night at all.
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Execute Hekasan.
Are these infections played out differently?
The same. Although I'm starting to lose track of the overall flow of thought; I'm not used to mafia games with such ambiguities in the information, I'm not used to it...
 

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It is very difficult to confuse the performers of actions based on their descriptions.
Кампании для Heroes V 3.1 (Трилогия):

Пробуждение зла
Нашествие из Преисподней
Смена эпох

Скачать все кампании одним архивом: Яндекс.Диск Google.Диск

You can download the set of 3 Campaigns (English version) here

Одиночные сценарии Heroes V 3.1:

Незваные гости
Красный кристалл
Синий кристалл
Закат тьмы

Мультиплеерные карты для Heroes V 3.1:

Легендарная война
Сердце вулкана
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The answer to the second question is – on the following night (thanks, Master). That is, Yashura was infected on the 2nd night. I'm starting to think that Sesame is right, and the ultimate ability in the form of infection on Rick from the maniac was used.
But this doesn't negate the fact that Lyuska infected someone on the first night. Either this someone was cured of the infection by the doctor (then where is our evidence of successful treatment? She infected the same person as in the zero night, and both were cured immediately?),
or it was Heroist (but then Heroist isn't Crow, because Crow would send Lyuska),
or he doesn't have protection against infection, but at the same time, he has enough actions/abilities to last 3 nights (this could be Mann, this could be Kane, who didn't have protection against infection but received it as a result of recruitment, and this could be Lee, whose protection was removed before the infection).
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