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Posts from Mafia 99. The tragedy of the city of Ve-He.Auto-translated
In general, Shaman, you have time to personally convince me (and probably the others too). But I don't see any attempts to do so; instead, I see evasions, absurd excuses, and a lack of time or desire to do anything. No, I'm not talking about any hints or playing on the edge of a modkill. Although, you can try if you have a useful role in the town, but I highly doubt it.
Added 4 minutes ago MedjersoN_HP
Ah, well, I can make a list for now. We need 10 votes for the execution. Playing for the town: Neyra Drake Gur Ment Drakkoska MedjersoN_HP Shadow Townspeople: Ehsa Aileri Heroist Rudyy Nefela Suspicious: SnowmanV2 KindShaman Sesame Ple-Sen WishmasteR Inactive: Alexeagle Alex306 Zlobny Yashchur Undecided: Gekasan_RU Even if you add the townspeople and shadow townspeople together, you get 9 votes. That's not enough. Even if we somehow manage to cooperate.
And how many votes are there for Shaman right now? It seems to me that numbered Alex might soon get a modkill, which is not good. If at least half of the remaining villagers can only log in once a day and cast their vote based on the situation at that moment, then things will continue to be not very good for us during the day. Plus, there are stolen votes and all sorts of other nonsense.
I've read through a lot of information, but I still don't quite understand. Why are they talking about hanging the Shaman?
Drakkosha
It's unlikely his status has changed. Execute the Shaman. We'll hang him, but only if he's Hostor, which is highly unlikely.
Actually, the Shaman can't be "Hostor." He was questioned.
Gur
If Vespers suggested it, then the Shaman is definitely evil, which means that of the townspeople, only Hostor and Arandor could be him (and Arandor can't be executed).
If I understand correctly what happened yesterday afternoon and tonight, Vespers checked the Master on the first night and, finding out he was evil, went to kill him on the second night and ran into a mafia defense (there's no ND from Rayna on the second night, but there is a mention of a double assassination attempt). There isn't enough time to check the Shaman.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
For now, I'm skimming through your chat (and non-chat). I think I'll be home in an hour or two and then I'll decide who to vote for. The Shaman seems suspicious, but I'm not sure yet if he deserves to be eliminated.
Hmm... I think I'm starting to understand what's going on...Drakkoshka
Menti is good. Very good. I would even say, USEFUL.
You too, by the looks of it?:smile04::smile04::smile04:Drakkoshka
I still want to reduce the number of negatives, rather than just merging over non-executability.
KindShaman
And yes, Drakkoshka is outing herself as either mafia or a very specific town role.
No way, she's outing herself as a specific maniac role.:D:D:DDrakkoshka
Yeah, 146% info. Trust Kosha, Kosha wouldn't say anything stupid.
One and a half modkills.
Well, if what Kosha is writing is true, then Shaman is either the emperor (but I find that hard to believe, unlikely he killed Master with a DD), or mafia—and by all appearances Zesma or Igelax, meaning he has no protection from execution of his own. Hang Shaman.
But in that case, Kosha herself is the second maniac.:smile04:
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
Regarding the Shaman. It's clear – I haven't been active enough to process all the information and draw meaningful conclusions, even for the rest of the day. The Shaman himself doesn't provide arguments, and there's this strange, out-of-the-blue ultimate ability cast on Vespyr, who wanted to execute someone. Blah, blah, I agree with you. I was asked about the Snowman. I didn't want to comment right now; I was planning to gather my thoughts first. But there's a chance I won't have time to sort everything out today (seriously, this is consuming me ;p). So, about the Snowman. Psychologically, I'm neutral (I like his writing style; he expresses his thoughts very clearly, but his reasoning flows in a slightly different direction than mine). Also, the clues are a factor. The Ptolemies, as a dynasty, were founded by one of Alexander the Great's generals. That's the first sentence from Wikipedia. In turn, Diodorus described the history of Alexander the Great's reign (and the entire history, including his father, Philip II, and others, starting with the Trojan War) in his works. And the most famous cultural work from the entire period described by Diodorus is the Iliad. The author of the Iliad is Homer. The Snowman chose Homer.
But there's a catch: I'm more of a master of the Barbarians than of solving clues, so I don't know how this will help. Also, I still remember the previous game where I messed up. So, please just keep this in mind and don't consider it a call for execution. I'm not ready to take responsibility. I'm still processing.
жизни выцветшие карточки хлам лиц расквашенные лампочки хлам между жидких начинаний сам в крови воспоминаний поваляться захотел
Молодое зло телами в масле Застилает взор багровый зной Если хочешь ты чтоб я был счастлив Наизнанку вывернись со мной Бахромою плоть дурная драма До рассвета нервы в решето Валидола вмажь по вене мама За моё счастливое ничто
I'm helpful, not a CREEP. That's different. And I don't understand why I came across as some kind of maniac to you. Unless you like that I'm playing for you :3 And yes, I remembered the table, reread the build, let's go with Shaman, but forget it.
The Ptolemies, as a dynasty, were founded by Alexander the Great's general. This is the first sentence from Wikipedia. In turn, Diodorus described the history of Alexander the Great's reign (and the entire history, including his father, A.V., and others, starting with the Trojan War) in his works. And the most famous cultural work from the entire period described by Diodorus is the Iliad. The author of the Iliad is Homer. Snowman chose Homer.
The connection between the Diadochus Ptolemy, the general and successor of Alexander the Great, and Alexander himself is a bit unsettling. Let's not pretend it justifies anything. But overall, it's a very good clue, and I would probably even vote for it.
And I didn't even understand why I came across as some kind of maniac to you.
According to your own words:
If you recognized the Shaman by his evil status (and how else can I understand your words that he can only be Torsoh among the condemned townspeople?), then you are a Clue-giver. Besides Rayna and the Mafia, only he can check the 2nd status.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
The Ptolemies, as a dynasty, were founded by Alexander the Great's general. This is the first sentence from Wikipedia. In turn, Diodorus described the history of Alexander the Great's reign (and indeed all of history, including his father, A.V., and others, starting with the Trojan War) in his works. And the most famous cultural work from the entire period described by Diodorus is the Iliad. The author of the Iliad is Homer. Snowman chose Homer.
Okay, but I think that "ends" is also part of the clue, which is not reflected in this solution.
If you recognized the Shaman because of his evil status
...o_O
Um... Gur suggested that his Vespers recognized him. And I supported this assumption because, for me, the Shaman is almost certainly Mafia, and I didn't have the table in front of me. Moreover, if I had said that I recognized him because of his evil status, I would have been modkilled ten times already. Please read the thread carefully and don't make unsubstantiated accusations.
MasteR
