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Wicc

11 years ago

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The show tournament by twaryna is still ongoing, and it's already clear that the version has turned out to be quite playable. Some minor edits are still possible, but overall, the gameplay will not change in the foreseeable future.

Therefore, we are starting an open HotA tournament.

Game information and download links are here - http://vk.com/h3hota.

Game version: HotA 1.3.8 + HDmode.

Template: chosen by lot from Jebus, Mini-Nostalgia, Diamond, 8mm6a, 6lm10a.

Castles: all games are played in the Wharf vs Wharf format; one player chooses the color, and the other player chooses the starting hero first.

Timer - standard for ХВ rules, but battle time is 2 minutes (with unfamiliar troops, more thinking is required during combat).
Jebus - 24+8:30+2
Diamond - 19+8+2
Mini-Nostalgia - 19+8+2
8mm6a - 21+8+2
6lm10a - 21+8+2

Roads - fast for Jebus and medium for other templates.

Restarts - 3 days in total (+objective restarts due to blocks, bugs, or encounters).

Red-rush is allowed.

Other rules correspond to the HotA show tournament rules

Tournament format - Swiss system with elimination after 2 losses. Each round is played as a best-of-one (bo1). Time per round - 3 weeks.

Rules may be clarified later, as some nuances might have been missed the first time. In case of a disputed or doubtful situation, it is recommended to contact the judge immediately. That is, do not abuse discovered bugs.

Players have the right to agree on any changes in the rules except for the game version.

Each participant must pass qualification - play at least one full online game in HotA. This is to ensure that you have installed the software correctly and understand the game rules. Players who participated in the show tournament or have game reports for HotA in the season are exempt from qualification.

Register here, specifying ICQ/Skype. Start as soon as a quorum is reached.

List of participants with current permanent rating (participants highlighted in bold have passed qualification):

1. Maretti (1880)
2. Сатир (1787)
3. The_ (1744)
4. Aiwe (1720)
5. Mizrael (1700)
6. Javdet (1699)
7. twaryna (1698)
8. KobRa_RR (1674)
9. Redwhait HP (1657)
10. WiZarDX_576(1631)
11. Amiloo (1627)
12. shpilenger (1610)
13. FireToSky (1586)
14. =Lizard= (1557)
15. Pupa (1541)
16. MuLLIyTa (1541)
17. mals (1516)
18. Huanito (1511)
19. Amster (1503)
20. Dave_HUN (1496)
21. YaR (1495)
22. Stomper (1487)
23. liverpool (1486)
24. Piterius (1485)
25. MelSpirit (1472)
26. nik312 (1438)
27. Little (1408)
28. WishmasteR (1386)
29. wariator (1352)
30. R@sIM (1310)
31. korvet (N/R)
32. MikeM (N/R)
33. skd (N/R)
34. Blitz (N/R)
35. BlackFatal (N/R)
36. guboshlyep (N/R)
37. Kalcefar (N/R)
38. Bison (N/R)
39. Jubi-juby (N/R)
40. TwinkieThecake (N/R)
41. Dr.Ftor (N/R)
42. Mukti (N/R)
43. Убитый (N/R)
44. DreadKn1ght (N/R)
45. Gee (N/R)
46. Deferatto (N/R)
47. Be3y4uu (N/R)
48. Arka (N/R)
49. Loinz (N/R)
50. silenthill (N/R)
51. Dandy (N/R)
52. Intofire (N/R)
53. LorD ExE (N/R)
54. Gi5d (N/R)
55. Bikeman56 (N/R)
56. _XS!_ (N/R)
57. Ашот-ШИК (N/R)
58. Vladimir_Ospa (N/R)
59. Docent Picolan (N/R)
60. hippox89 (N/R)
61. flate (N/R)
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62. Pit for LM (1847)
63. aka.Ward3n (1376)
64. Sky21044 (N/R)
65. wowa (1695)
66. RozenKran (1536)
67. Toganash (1733)
68. Simba (N/R)
69. horror145 (N/R)
70. ...

UPDATE

Regarding the tournament start dates - 3 weeks are given for registration and qualification, meaning the draw for the 1st round will be on 24.04.2015

Players may independently agree on tournament games ahead of the bracket. For this, players must have an equal number of wins/losses. The fact of agreement should be reported to me before the start of the game via a forum post or ICQ message. Independent games that were not reported before the draw of the corresponding round are considered null and void.

Anyone who wants to start already can find an opponent for the 1st round themselves and play against them. Early games may be counted as qualification if bo3 (best-of-3) is played.

UPDATE

Draw for the 1st round:

Pupa (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) def KobRa_RR (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) Jebus Cross 117
shpilenger (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Dessa) def R@siM(Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) Mini-Nostalgia 141
FireToSky (Blue, Random, Fortress, Stig, Das) def =Lizard= (Red, Random, Fortress, Korbak, Tazar) 8mm6a 122
redwhait (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Craig Heck) def Mizrael (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Jeremy) 6lm10а 232
Jubi-Juby (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) def wariator (Red, Wharf, Miriam, Miriam) Jebus Cross 127 1:0 (bo3)
Jubi-Juby (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Korkes) def wariator (Blue, Wharf, Miriam, Miriam) 8mm6a 232 2:0 (bo3)
twaryna (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Tiraxor) def Amiloo (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) 8mm6a 227
YaR (Blue, Rampart, Kyri, Kyri) def mals (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) 6lm10a 211
nik312 (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def MuLLIyTa (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) Diamond 124
DreadKn1ght (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def BlackFatal (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) 6lm10a 121
Dandy (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def flate (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) MiniNostalgia 123
Gi5d (Red, Wharf, Lina, Kyri) def Bikeman56 (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) Jebus Cross 222
The_ (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Gunnar) def Сатир (Red, Wharf, Miriam, Arlak) 6lm10a 212
LorD ExE (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) def Intofire (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) 6lm10a 224
Pit for LM (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) def RozenKran (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) Jebus Cross 127
MikeM (Blue, Fortress, Tazar, Gunnar) def Stomper (Red, Stronghold, Craig Heg, Craig Heg) Jebus Cross 126
Deferatto (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def Gee (Blue, Wharf, Korkes, Korkes) 8mm6a 225
Sky21044 (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Kyri) def aka.Ward3n (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) Mini-Nostalgia 133
skd (Red, Wharf, Lina, Illor) def _XS!_ (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Korkes) 8mm6a 145
Huanito (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Kyri) def MelSpirit (Red, Wharf, Illor, Jeremy) 6lm10a 147
wowa (Red, Wharf, Illor, Illor) def Toganash (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Kyri) 8mm6a 214
Docent Picolan (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Gunnar) def hippox89 (Red, Wharf, Korkes, Korkes) Mini-Nostalgia 223
Maretti (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Gundula) def Javdet (Blue, Wharf, Miriam, Miriam) 6lm10a 224
Blitz (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def Simba (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Korkes) 8mm6a 132

WiZarDX_576 def Little
Dr.Ftor def korvet
Piterius def liverpool
Mukti def Kalcefar

Arka - Loinz, mutual tech-loss

The player listed first in the pair chooses the color. The player listed second in the pair chooses the starting hero first. The template draw is started by the player listed first in the pair.

Registration and qualification continue until the end of the 1st round. There will be no further official draws; all players who register and qualify after the tournament starts must find opponents for the 1st round independently.

Deadline for the 1st round - 15.05.2015 (3 weeks)

Draw for the 2nd round:

Winners:
shpilenger (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Craig Heg) def The_ (Red, Wharf, Miriam, Miriam) Mini-Nostalgia 133
nik312 (Blue, Inferno, Calh, Calh) def Jubi-Juby (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) Mini-Nostalgia 214
Dandy (Red, Wharf, Korkes, Tazar) def Gi5d (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) Jebus Cross 143
Redwhait HP (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) def Deferatto (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) Mini-Nostalgia 221
Maretti (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Kyri) def Pit for LM (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) Mini-Nostalgia 211
YaR (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def skd (Blue, Wharf, Korkes, Korkes) Jebus Cross 125
DreadKn1ght (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def Sky21044 (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) 6lm10a 317
wowa (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) def twaryna (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) 6lm10a 213
WiZarDX_576 (Red, Wharf, Korkes, Korkes) def FireToSky (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) Diamond 132
Huanito def Pupa
horror145 def Piterius
Blitz def Mukti - awarded by save
Docent Picolan (Red, Inferno, Calh, Calh) def Dr.Ftor (Blue, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar) 8mm6a 234
MikeM (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def LorD ExE (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) 8mm6a 211

Substitutions:
Pupa -> Jubi-Juby#2
Piterius -> Gi5d#2

Losers:
Mizrael (Blue, Random, Fortress, Vistan, Vistan) def Stomper (Red, Random, Dungeon, Alamar, Craig Heg) 6lm10a 135
RozenKran (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) def wariator (Blue, Wharf, Korkes, Korkes) Jebus Cross 127
aka.Ward3n (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) def Gee (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) 6lm10a 114
hippox89 (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def Bikeman56 (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) 8mm6a 146
KobRa_RR (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def R@sIM (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) 8mm6a 137
BlackFatal (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) def flate (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Miriam) 8mm6a 134
=Lizard= (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) def Amiloo (Red, Inferno, Mariussa, Mariussa) 8mm6a 136
_XS!_ (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) def Intofire (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) 8mm6a 133
mals (Red, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) def MelSpirit (Blue, Wharf, Korkes, Korkes) 8mm6a 127

Toganash def MuLLIyTa

Substitution:
Kalcefar -> The_#2

Simba (Red, Conflux, Luna, Luna) def The_#2 (Blue, Rampart, Kyri, Kyri) Jebus Cross 121

Сатир vs Javdet - mutual tech-loss; Deferatto#2 enters as a substitute for the winner of this pair
horror145 vs liverpool - mutual tech-loss

Deadline for the 2nd round - 3 weeks, meaning until 05.06.2015

Draw for the 3rd round:

Winners:
nik312 (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) def Redwhait HP (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Moner) Mini-Nostalgia 247
YaR (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def DreadKn1ght (Blue, Wharf, Illor, Illor) 6lm10a 141
Dandy (Red, Rampart, Kyri, Kyri) def MikeM (Blue, Castle, Caitlin, Tazar) Jebus Cross 125
WiZarDX_576 (Blue, Wharf, Korkes, Korkes) def Huanito (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) Jebus Cross 131
Docent Picolan (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def Blitz (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) 8mm6a 127
wowa (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Craig Heg) def shpilenger (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) 6lm10a 136

Intermediate pair (winner vs loser):
Maretti def horror145

Losers:
Jubi-Juby (Red, Conflux, Luna, Crellion) def The_ (Blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) Jebus Cross 132
RozenKran (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) def Gi5d (Red, Wharf, Lina, Tazar) Mini-Nostalgia 211
KobRa_RR (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) def Deferatto (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) 8mm6a 233
=Lizard= (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Dragon) def aka.Ward3n (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) Diamond 115
Pit for LM (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Craig Heg) def Mizrael (Red, Wharf, Korkes, Korkes) Jebus Cross 125
skd (Red, Wharf, Lina, Lorelei) def BlackFatal (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) 8mm6a 144
Simba (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Tiraxor) def Gi5d#2 (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) Jebus Cross 146
_XS!_ (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) def hippox89 (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) Mini-Nostalgia 133
twaryna def FireToSky
Toganash (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def mals (Red, Rampart, Kyri, Kyri) 6lm10a 144
Jubi-Juby#2 (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Moner) def Sky21044 (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) 6lm10a 217
Deferatto#2 (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def LorD ExE (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) 8mm6a 214
Dr.Ftor def Mukti

Deadline - 3 weeks, meaning until 26.06.2015

Draw for the 4th round:

Players highlighted in italics play with a debuff - they grant their opponent the right to choose both the color and the starting hero.

Winners:
WiZarDX_576 (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def nik312 (Blue, Inferno, Calh, Calh) Mini-Nostalgia 147
Maretti (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Gunnar) def wowa (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Cassiopeia) 8mm6a 135
YaR (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def Docent Picolan (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) 6lm10a 131

Intermediate pair (winner vs loser):
Dandy (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Gunnar) def Huanito (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) Diamond 142

Losers:
RozenKran (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) def Jubi-Juby (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) Jebus Cross 135
=Lizard= (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def Redwhait HP (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) Diamond 133
Toganash (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def twaryna (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) 6lm10a 214
Pit for LM (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Cassiopeia) def Jubi-Juby#2 (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Kyri) Mini-Nostalgia 125
MikeM (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def Blitz (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Gunnar) 8mm6a 127
_XS!_ (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) def Dr.Ftor (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Craig Heg) 8mm6a 133
KobRa_RR (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) def DreadKn1ght (Blue, Wharf, Manfred, Manfred) 8mm6a 135

skd def shpilenger
Deferatto#2 def Simba

Deadline for the 4th round - until 24.07.2015

Draw for the 5th round:

Winners:
Dandy (Blue, Wharf, Korkes, Korkes) def YaR (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) Jebus Cross 124
Maretti (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) def WiZarDX_576 (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) 8mm6a 221

Losers:
=Lizard= (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Jeremy) def RozenKran (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) Jebus Cross 125
nik312 (Blue, Necropolis, Claudius, Claudius) def Toganash (Red, Conflux, Luna, Dessa) 8mm6a 141
Deferatto#2 (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def _XS!_ (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) 8mm6a 211
skd (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) def KobRa_RR (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) Diamond 134
Pit for LM (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def wowa (Blue, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Cassiopeia) Jebus Cross 127
MikeM (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) def Docent Picolan (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) Mini-Nostalgia 216

Deadline for the 5th round - until 14.08.2015

Draw for the 6th round:

Winners:
Maretti (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Craig Heg) def Dandy (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) 6lm10a 144

Losers:
YaR (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def Deferatto#2 (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Illor) Mini-Nostalgia 213
Pit for LM (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Kyri) def =Lizard= (Red, Wharf, Cassiopeia, Mephala) Diamond 122
WiZarDX_576 (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def skd (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) Diamond 132
MikeM (Red, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) def nik312 (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) 8mm6a 127

Deadline for the 6th round - until 04.09.2015

Draw for the 7th round:

Intermediate pair (winner vs loser):
Maretti (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Cassiopeia) def YaR (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) 6lm10a 214

Losers:
WiZarDX_576 (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def Pit for LM (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) Diamond 127
MikeM (Red, Wharf, Annabelle, Korkes) def Dandy (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) 6lm10a 211

Deadline for the 7th round - until 25.09.2015

Draw for the 8th round:
YaR's bonus for winning the quiz is activated, and he remains in the tournament.

Intermediate pair (winner vs loser):
Maretti (Red, Wharf, Illor, Tazar) def MikeM (Blue, Wharf, Jeremy, Das) 6lm10a 136

Losers:
YaR (Red, Wharf, Jeremy, Jeremy) def WiZarDX_576 (Blue, Wharf, Annabelle, Annabelle) 8mm6a 137

Deadline for the 8th round - until 16.10.2015

Final:

Maretti vs YaR

To win the tournament, Maretti only needs to win once, while YaR must win twice.

UPDATE

Since the starting confusion has ended, we will play more orderly from the 2nd round onwards.

1) Players who do not meet the round deadline (regardless of whose fault), will play in the next round with a debuff - their opponent may choose both the color and the hero.

Exceptions are possible at the discretion of the organizer. For example, if players reported difficulties in advance (within one week from the start of the round).

Therefore, I recommend not waiting until the last day, but agreeing and starting to play immediately.

2) Private messages from the organizer should be answered within 3 days. The same applies to public messages with any requests. Lack of reaction is interpreted against the player.

For example, if in response to a private message "How is the round 2 game going?", one of the players replied (regardless of what), and the second remained silent, then in the absence of a result, a technical victory will be awarded to the first.

3) If a player withdraws from the tournament or is disqualified, their slot is passed in order of queue to players who have already been eliminated from the tournament. Priority is given to those who progressed further, and if they reached the same distance - to whoever played earlier.

Therefore, I recommend agreeing and playing subsequent rounds before their official start.

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Wicc

11 years ago

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The first round has come to an end.

Failed to qualify and are eliminated from the tournament:
Aiwe
Amster
Dave_HUN
WishmasteR
guboshlyep
Убитый
Be3y4uu
silenthill
Ашот-ШИК
Vladimir_Ospa
horror145

Qualified, but went missing, and are therefore also eliminated from the tournament:
Little
liverpool
Piterius
korvet
Arka
Loinz
Bison

Withdrew from the tournament:
TwinkieThecake

Technical results:
WiZarDX_576 def Little
Dr.Ftor def korvet

Will finish their matches in the coming days:
Maretti - Javdet
Mukti - Kalcefar
Blitz - Simba

Round 2 draw:

Winners:
Pit for LM - winner(Maretti - Javdet)
twaryna - wowa
WiZarDX_576 - FireToSky
Pupa - Huanito
YaR - skd
DreadKn1ght - Sky21044
LorD ExE - MikeM
Docent Picolan - Dr.Ftor
winner(Mukti - Kalcefar) - winner(Blitz - Simba)

Losers:
Сатир - loser(Maretti - Javdet)
KobRa_RR - R@siM
=Lizard= - amiloo
Toganash - MuLLIyTa
mals - MelSpirit
aka.Ward3n - Gee
BlackFatal - flate
Bikeman56 - hippox89
Intofire - _XS!_
loser(Mukti - Kalcefar) - loser(Blitz - Simba)

The deadline for Round 2 is 3 weeks, i.e., until 05.06.2015

If you have any complaints about the results or if I forgot someone, please let me know.

Added 14 minutes ago
Since the initial confusion is over, we will start playing more organized from Round 2.

1) Players who do not meet the deadline for the round (regardless of the reason) will play in the next round with a debuff - their opponent can choose both the color and the hero.

Exceptions are possible at the discretion of the organizer. For example, if players reported difficulties in advance (within a week of the start of the round).

Therefore, I recommend not waiting until the last day, but immediately agree and start playing.

2) Private messages from the organizer should be answered within 3 days. The same applies to public messages with any requests. Lack of response will be interpreted to the detriment of the player.

For example, if one of the players answered something (anything) to a private message "How is Round 2 going?", and the second remained silent, then in the absence of a result, a technical victory will be awarded to the first.

3) If a player withdraws from the tournament or is disqualified, their slot will be passed on to the next player in the queue who has already been eliminated from the tournament. Priority is given to those who have progressed further, and if the distance is equal, to those who played earlier.

Therefore, I recommend agreeing and playing the next rounds before their official start. Currently, The_ is first in line to replace

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Javdet

11 years ago

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Wicc

For comparison, in Warlords of the Wastelands, the Miner has 20-25 troglodytes in his stacks, and no one complains (they complained when there were 15-25).

They didn't complain because of the troglodyte upgrade.
Although, in my opinion, Laura with the Warlords of the Wastelands-style harpy functionality is much better.

With Maretti, save the game at the beginning of the second month, and finish it off when she appears.

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DreadKn1ght

11 years ago

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Wicc

3) If a player withdraws from or is disqualified from the tournament, their slot is passed on to the next player in line who has already been eliminated from the tournament. Priority is given to those who progressed further, and if they are at the same distance, to those who played earlier.

Therefore, I recommend that you agree and play the next rounds before their official start. Currently, The_ is first in line for a replacement.

So, if someone from the "winners" bracket suddenly drops out in, say, the fifth round, will a player who was eliminated in the first round suddenly appear in their place???
Or will the player who was eliminated in the fourth round get a second chance, as they progressed further (based on what was written above)?
I don't understand the logic...
Or is there a difference between "withdrawal and disqualification" and the fact that a dozen of those who registered disappeared in the first round? Does that mean they didn't withdraw or get disqualified, and a replacement isn't required for them?
Then, in what case will a replacement be made?
And what is the point of these replacements?
Isn't this a bit unfair? Doesn't anyone else think so?
So, some play until they have 2 losses, while others play until they have 4?
Or does the player who comes in as a replacement have to win twice against their opponent, while the opponent only needs one win?

I'm very new here, and I want to understand the whole mechanism....

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Wicc

11 years ago

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You can only join a game as a replacement in the losers' bracket.

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DreadKn1ght

11 years ago

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This doesn't really change anything and doesn't answer many of the questions that were asked...

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Redwhait

11 years ago

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A substitution can only be made up to a certain round, and if Vic decides to do so, he should announce until which round. I think this is a good idea; it provides an additional incentive to play games faster and not neglect the tournament.

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Wicc

11 years ago

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DreadKn1ght

This practically doesn't change anything and doesn't answer many of the questions asked...

Well, I answered the only question that isn't obvious from what's written above.

That is, if in the conditional fifth round, someone from the "winners" bracket suddenly drops out, then instead of him...

No, because "you can only enter as a replacement in the losers bracket." If a winner drops out, they get a tech loss, fall into the losers bracket, and pass their slot to the player entering as a replacement.

...a player who dropped out in the conditional first round will suddenly appear???

No, because "the advantage is with those who have advanced further."

Or will the second chance go to the one who dropped out in the fourth round, since he advanced further (based on what is written above)?

Yes. Only there it will rather be someone who dropped out in the 6th or 7th round (having played them in advance).

Or is there a difference between "withdrawal and disqualification" and the fact that a dozen participants dropped out in the first round... So, they didn't withdraw or get disqualified, and no replacement is needed for them?

The difference is that "since the initial confusion is over, we will start playing more organized from the 2nd round," that is, all of the above starts working from the 2nd round. If you transfer the places of all the missing newcomers, then the first dropout from the tournament will happen very soon...

And what is the point of these replacements in general?

Fewer technical results in the bracket, more game results. And also, an incentive to independently find opponents for the next rounds, relieving some of the burden from the organizer.

This isn't entirely fair, doesn't anyone think so?
That is, some play until 2 losses, and others until 4?

Players who enter as replacements play until 3 losses, because "you can only enter as a replacement in the losers bracket." In my opinion, the extra "life" fully corresponds to the benefit to the tournament from playing matches early.

Or does the one who enters as a replacement have to win twice against his opponent, while the opponent only needs one win?

No, he plays as usual.

You can only enter as a replacement until a certain round, and if Vic decided to do so, he should announce until which round.

You can enter as a replacement at any time, as long as there are free slots. Closer to the final, players usually don't drop out.

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DreadKn1ght

11 years ago

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Thank you, everything is clear.

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Maretti

11 years ago

@Wicc: Do you call it a draw or harassment? :smile10:

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Maretti

11 years ago

http://www.twitch.tv/maretti0/b/659401565
FB at 02.23.00.
TFP.

Maretti

Faction Причал / Cove

Start Hero Джереми / Jeremy

Main Hero Гундула / Gundula

Победа / Def

Javdet

Faction Причал / Cove

Start Hero Мириам / Miriam

Main Hero Мириам / Miriam

Map Template: 6lm10a
Game Length: 224 days
Game Date: 5/16/2015
Reported: 5/16/2015 12:37 PM

Maretti 1975 → 1978 +3 ↑

Javdet 1655 → 1652 -3 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 5/16/2015 4:13 PM

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Javdet

11 years ago

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Maretti

http://www.twitch.tv/maretti0/b/659401565
FB at 02.23.00.
TFP.

I didn't think I would lose with such a strong army; 25 Titans at the beginning of the second month seemed invincible. But my opponent's heroes were more agile. I simply lacked speed – with two damage dealers, boots, and gauntlets, but without logistics and stables, I couldn't reach the strategic castles, and spending the night in the field was not an option. As a result, I lost strategically, giving up the key Barbarian castle. The finale became a formality with Maretti having the Sniper Bow, Orb, and Obsidius. Although there could have been other options – if I had put a cloak on to block 1st or 2nd level magic. As usual, I realized it after the game.

Thanks for the game.

PS And I'm tired of the double-click with the mouse instead of a single click – has anyone else encountered this, and how can I fix it? The problem is not with the mechanics – it's something systemic.

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horror145

11 years ago

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On 111 I took a scout tower, lit a teapot for 20-49 dendroids. Among the objects were 2 crypts and 1 mausoleum. I took Kyrre; 2 crypts gave Earth magic at level 2. On 112 I took the mausoleum with gray Grands and Boots of Speed for spirits. Earth Magic immediately became Expert. I built a guild, found oil. On 115 I break toward the main base, run through a well, and attack the dendroids. There turned out to be 48 of them; with 14 Grands I was just barely short of arrows, lost a couple of pegasus units. Since I spent all my mana, I turn back to the well, and the next day I replenish mana with the teapot. I take a Pandora's Box for 55 gray bulls, 15k gold, which is pretty good on 116. On 117 I stop before the grizzly bears. On 121 I bring reinforcements, kill 14 grizzlies, take a Pandora's Box for 15k experience and a Zephyr's Shawl; along the way I got lucky with another well and a scout tower. 122: Griffin Conservatory maxed without losses and a Black Market, where I buy Gloves. 123: I kill the opponent with Castle, build a Stable, run with 4300. I break into the main base and run to the treasure zone. 124: I took the Scarlet Tower, scouted further, found another scout tower, saw a Book of Earth behind Manticores. At this moment the opponent places the Grail in Tower, runs out and kills my scout hero. 126: I'm on a roll with 4500 movement points, cut down almost the entire army from the Masthouse; they buy peace. I reach the Tower with the Grail; the opponent surrenders.
I mixed up the colors; is it possible to change somehow.
As for the first round, is there still time or am I late? The report button wasn't working...

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KobRa_RR

11 years ago

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Eeeh, and who are all these people? Maybe I got the tournament wrong....:p

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Derbent

11 years ago

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it happened, I confirm.
a few games were played before that moment with Horror, very interesting games came out, so I suggested he sign up for this tournament, offering to play the qualifier. By that time my report button also wasn't working, i.e., it wasn't there at all.
regarding this specific game, I played poorly on tempo, around d113 I scouted the headband of 5 5th-level spells behind a horde of Gnoll Nix. To be honest, I had nothing to take it early, I took 3-4 Zephyr's Shawls, no Dragon Fly Hive or Griffin Conservatory, I captured the AI Castle at the start of month 2, all the money was going into building Angels and searching for the Grail. When I took the Grail, I immediately captured the Tower and was planning to make Titans. Glancing towards my opponent, I notice a free KZ and 4 or 5 utopias, and there too a scout hero with strength. I attack the scout hero thinking he can't buy off, in the tavern by gold I'm 1st (with 12k), then a couple of AIs, then the opponent, but he has enough to buy off. I thought about Kyrre's movement points, but I didn't suspect Geppetto's Boots :smile50: he reached both the hero and the castle, total failure. gg
p.s. at the discretion of the tournament judge, I'd like this player to ultimately take part in the tournament.

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Blitz

11 years ago

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Not a bad amount of resources on the respawn, and I picked up my companion at the end of the week. I couldn't break through to my corner treasure, as it was blocked by 20-49-level Ifrits, but I did find a +1 ring and a +2 speed cloak there. I only made it to the center on turn 131, but the entrance was blocked by 70 monks with a group stack. At the beginning of week 3, my opponent surrendered. Thanks for the game.