Mafia 95. The Wardens' campaign against Urubaen. — Mafia

ToX

3/16/2015 7:04 PM UTC

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You're trying to apply ontology where it's not particularly needed. Please keep in mind that I'm not stating as an absolute truth that Tenchi is inherently good. Yes, initially, when I first encountered it, I had a strong reaction, but now I'm more open to considering alternatives if they are presented clearly.

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MasteR

3/16/2015 7:05 PM UTC

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ToX

Explain the logic, and I'll change my mind, just like that.

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Master, I'm not saying that Tenshi is 100% Town. I'm saying that punishing someone based on activity, upsetting a person who was late because of me, is something only jerks would do. The fact that she was late doesn't mean she's Mafia. Yes, she could be Mafia and be upset about losing, but I still want to consider her Town based on psychology and solidarity. If you can clearly show me why, in the situation with Kosha being a cat/brother, Tenshi can't be the second one in this pair, then okay, no problem, she's Mafia.

What makes you think Kosha is one of this pair?

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ToX

3/16/2015 7:05 PM UTC

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Master, I'm serious. Do this analysis regarding my role again, disregarding my claims about Tenshi's peaceful nature and judging only based on objective facts. Please, don't look for a connection where there isn't one, okay?

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How did you conclude that Kosha is someone from this pair?

But you were leading to that! O_O Right? I don't understand you. Can you clearly state all the arguments in favor of Kosha's peaceful nature and Tenshi's mafia nature in a long post? Please, I'm asking you nicely.

Драккошка

3/16/2015 7:07 PM UTC

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Could Tox be Roran? No, he couldn't. Roran wouldn't have information about whether someone is peaceful or not. And besides, just like with Eragon, the Ra'zac have no reason to go and kill Tox.

He can't be; he attributes this role to me and Tenzin as well.

А, вот почему.

??+⛓️♿=?

kcfgogbfalgfl

3/16/2015 7:08 PM UTC

*sigh*

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ToX

3/16/2015 7:11 PM UTC

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Oh, that's some 100th-level logic. Of course, as Roran, I wouldn't assign this role to anyone else, because only by playing my own role can I win in a town on HotA.

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And it's not even about whether I'm Roran or not; I'm just amused by this logic.

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If the commissioners in a real mafia didn't suspect that other people were commissioners, they would be found and killed by the mafia...

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Now, let's all mention every role except our own in our analysis! We'll all reveal ourselves, and then we'll be happy with how clever we are!

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I'm so fed up with you guys. I'm waiting for a big post from Master; if it doesn't appear, I'm just leaving the forum for the rest of the day; I'm tired of this nonsense.

Драккошка

3/16/2015 7:12 PM UTC

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And why attribute a potential mafia player's role to someone else? Just to implicate yourself? That's excellent logic.

А, вот почему.

??+⛓️♿=?

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MasteR

3/16/2015 7:15 PM UTC

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ToX

Oh, that's some next-level logic. Of course, as Roran, I wouldn't assign this role to anyone else, because only by playing my own role can I win in the town game.

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And it's not even about whether I'm Roran or not; I'm just amused by this logic.

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If the commissioners in a real mafia didn't suspect that other people were commissioners, they would be quickly found and killed by the mafia...

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Let's all mention every role except our own in our analysis! We'll all reveal ourselves, and then we'll be happy with how clever we are!

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I'm so annoyed by you guys. I'm waiting for a long post from Master; if it doesn't appear, I'm just leaving the forum for the rest of the day; I'm tired of this nonsense.

Let's keep it simple. Just tell me who you think Tenshi is. Neither Roran nor Cat poses any threat to the mafia, so you can safely say.

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Sesame

3/16/2015 7:16 PM UTC

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I'm so fed up with you guys. I'm waiting for a big post from Master; if it doesn't appear, I'm just leaving the forum for the rest of the day. I'm tired of this garbage.

Shadow, don't forget to check on the computer. It's already one in the morning, and I really want to sleep, but I'm still waiting for her to say something. Do you have any conscience?

..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.

MasteR

3/16/2015 7:17 PM UTC

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And let Tenshi answer the question - Who am I to her, a Mafia member or a Town member?

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Драккошка

3/16/2015 7:18 PM UTC

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And, by the way, my INTUITION is only very indirectly related to Tenshi's inactivity. She has already said enough.

А, вот почему.

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ToX

3/16/2015 7:23 PM UTC

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I don't know. If she's a town member, she could be any of these roles. If she's mafia, she could also be almost any mafia role. I can't be 100% sure because I'm still theoretically allowing for the possibility that both Kosha and Tenshi are town members. Yes, it's a bit of a mind game, yes, it's surreal, but that's just how my table looks. Of course, you'll object, saying, "blah, blah, blah, that's how you reveal that you're not a cat, not a brother, let's execute you," but I'll tell you that I wouldn't give hints about my role in this way. Do whatever you want with me.

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It's quite possible that I know who the mafia really is, but I'm pretending to be a clown. ;) Think about it. First, please share your own analysis.

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TenshiCH

3/16/2015 7:25 PM UTC

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I'm very late again, sorry.

Sesame

Don't forget to let Tenshi use the computer. It's already one in the morning, I'm very tired, but I'm still waiting for her to say something. Do you have any conscience?

What should I say? About what? I'm ready to answer all questions.

MasteR

And let Tenshi answer the question - Am I mafia or a town member to her?

I think you're a town member.

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Sesame

3/16/2015 7:34 PM UTC

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TenshiCH

What should I say? About what? I'm ready to answer any questions.

How, what? Your thoughts on the newspaper, your suspicions about the negatives. Who would you like to execute?
I'm going to go to sleep now, but I'll read your thoughts in the morning. I promise, even if I have to climb onto the roof to do it (otherwise, the signal is bad here during the day). So don't rush. Read the newspapers, the discussions... Maybe you'll notice something that others haven't.

..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.