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Choosing a starting Castle?
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Single choice Public votes Closed 2015-02-14
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"only XL-2"

Greetings to all fans of "XL" templates! This tournament is just for you:smile20:


I. Rules and Templates.

1. The rules are standard. The tournament will be held using the SoD 3.2 (4.0) + HD-mod version of the game.
2. XL templates: 8mm6a, 8хм12а, 6LM10a, 8xm8a, Spider.
3. Template selection is standard; Red starts first, with Blue making the final choice.
4. Castle selection is done by poll in a standard manner; Blue starts first. After restart, the color does not change (by mutual agreement, Random can be chosen, with resource selection and color swap).
5. Total number of restarts (113), i.e., 111+111+111, 111+112, 113
6. Time limit per turn with chess timer - 21:00+08:00+01:15
7. Roads are medium and fast
8. The time for one game is 2 weeks

II. Regulations

Stage 1 – Group Stage

16 groups of 6 players each. Two players from each group advance to the next stage, based on the highest score.
In case of equal scores, places are determined according to additional criteria (in order of priority):
1. Berger coefficient.
2. Head-to-head result.
3. Points scored in a game "weigh" more than technical defeats.
4. If it is impossible to determine who advances to the playoffs based on previous criteria, players will be offered a scheme for tiebreaker games. At this time, it is impossible to foresee all possible combinations of results. Therefore, the final scheme will be developed based on the situation that arises in the groups at the end of the stage.

Round 1: February 14 - February 27
Round 2: February 28 - March 13
Deadline for 2 games: March 15
Round 3: March 14 - March 27
Round 4: March 28 - April 10
Deadline for 4 games: April 12
Round 5: April 11 - April 24
Deadline for 5 games: April 26
RESERVE, voting for the playoff bracket: April 25 - April 28
Playoff draw: April 27 - April 28
Vacation: April 29 - May 8, CIS-2015

Attention!!! Failure to play the required number of games (report the played games) by the deadline results in disqualification, except for vacation or valid reasons, provided that you inform the organizers about the reason in advance.

In the group stage, each player can take a two-week break; notify the tournament organizers in advance (before the start of the round), with the obligation to play the games before the next deadline.

Victory – 3 points; defeat – 0; draw – 1 point (counted at Stage 211+ at the discretion of the organizers)

Players who have already advanced to the playoffs should send me two answers to the question in ICQ:
1. Template selection
a) Template selection is done in a standard manner.
b) Random template selection (specify preferences: coin toss once for template selection or every time after restart).
1. Castle Selection
a) Castle selection is done in a standard manner.
b) Castles are selected randomly, with color change after restart.
P.S. Please do not just write "1a 2b," but provide a complete answer. All voting results will be posted on the forum..

Stage 2 – Olympic Tournament

32 players, random distribution, 1st place and 2nd from the groups.
Changes to the rules based on the voting results:Random castle selection, with bonus selection and color swap.

Round 1 1/16 May 9 - May 22
Round 2 1/8 May 23 - June 5
Round 3 1/4 June 6 - June 19
Round 4 1/2 June 20 - July 3
Round 5 FINAL up to 2 wins July 4 - July 31; August 14

III. Organizational Issues

1. The tournament starts on February 13, 2015 (processing of the poll for castle selection, determination of the final regulations of the tournament, draw of groups)
2. The tournament is official
3. The tournament is held according to Rules for organizing, conducting, and participating in online HOMM3 tournaments
4. Tournament host, organizational issues – Scorpiona (ICQ 469326983), Nitro (ICQ 627769385) – organizational issues.
5. Tournament judge – Dirty_Player (ICQ 408722873)
6. Organizers reserve the right to refuse participation in the tournament to a user without publicly explaining the reasons.
7. The winner of the tournament will receive a medal under their avatar.
The winner of the previous tournament "only XL" AlexTheGreat[/B]
In reply to Javdet
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I don't see anything but benefits in the random selection on Hero League, because in each specific situation, it will be necessary to make a DIFFICULT decision.
A good hero appears, but the castle isn't the one you like.
A good castle appears, but there's no hero.
Each castle has its own advantages; you just need to know how to use them.
In the end, the "favorites" tournament is in a different branch, and yes, personally, I get tired of the same pairs; you need to be able to play with any castle.
Vatya

Otherwise, randomness in its essence turns into a hero-digging game. Whoever digs up a good hero will play as the underdog. Mullich even looks very good playing Inferno...
This is what I'm talking about. All castles are good in their own way, especially on Hero League.
Inferno is a weak castle? That's a serious claim. :smile14:
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Please register me for the tournament. I think my request on the fourth page was overlooked.
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Dirty_Player
In my opinion, a decision should be made based on the majority of votes, even if there's only a one-vote difference.
Dirty_Player
Of course, the votes will only be from the tournament participants.
That's how it will be if a reasonable compromise isn't found:p
skd
In my opinion, a viable solution can definitely be found. As I understand it, we can see who among the participants voted for random and who voted for Cherk (if it's not possible, we can ask them to express their opinion on the forum or in a private message to the judge).
Then, we create two types of rules in the regulations: 1) for games with Cherk, and 2) for games with random, plus two types of groups. After the group stage, we conduct a poll among those who made it to the playoffs and conduct the playoffs according to the majority's choice.
In my opinion, this is the most optimal option.
1) This option would be appropriate from the start of the tournament, but not after the majority of people have already registered. It will not be applied this season.
2) As for the vote before the playoffs, why not? It's not difficult to do. We'll keep it in mind.


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PutinKING
Please register me for the tournament.
I requested it on the fourth page, but I guess it wasn't noticed:D
If you're not on the list, it means you're under consideration, just like some other players.


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Hello everyone!
As the voting shows, opinions are equally divided. Perhaps in this case, we should rely on the rules of the seasonal league? There, players still have the right to agree (without limiting themselves to random or draft, there are many other possibilities, such as playing favorites, mage wars, or playing without rules, etc.), and if they don't agree, then the basic conditions are applied. Otherwise, we might come up with such a complex system in further discussions that it will be impossible to understand without a drink =))).
P.S. At first glance, draft seems more preferable for players who are lower in the ranking, while random is for more skilled players, but the color factor also plays a role.
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Akella

P.S. At first glance, the "Cherk" option seems more advantageous for players ranked lower, while the random option is better for more skilled players, but the color factor also plays a role.
Or is it the other way around? There's a higher chance of winning with a Castle against Inferno, and skilled players are unlikely to choose "Cherk" so often.
Когда рестартов не осталось, обязательно ждите Гурниссона без балисты:D

Комплимент который сделал мой день:
Катя ЭПИК барышня) вы бы видели как пялились на её сиськи молодёж) я та с девушкой был) но всё равно пялился ) потому что хорошие) (с) Browser

Слабая раздача, которую заиграл исключительно из-за колпака на 111. (с) Сатир

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Akella

P.S. At first glance, the deterministic option seems preferable for players ranked lower, while randomness is better for more skilled players, but the color factor also plays a role.

Actually, it's the opposite: the more randomness, the higher the chance of getting a favorable outcome and/or pushing an opponent into a disadvantageous position.


In reply to KobRa_RR
With 3 restarts for each player there isnt much "random" left. The diffrence is very small but the restart process is faster and more fun.
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Please register me for the tournament.
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Maretti
With 3 restarts for each player there isnt much "random" left. The diffrence is very small but the restart process is faster and more fun.

+1.

Random makes games more different, and there are lots of unusual pairs and main heroes, but not only "Kyrre - Shakti", "Tazar - Crag" etc.
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Please register me for the tournament. When facing a Tower/Inferno pairing, many players might reasonably ask, "What should I do?" Restarting the game just because you're playing as Tower... but what if the next generation gives you a Rampart with terrible blocks? Or the opponent gets Necropolis with Galthar? Or the same pair of castles again? When starting with fixed castles, you restart knowing that both you and your opponent will have the same castle and hero, so it makes sense to restart because there aren't many good options. It's hard to speak for others, but personally, I only restart when the game really gives me a bad start, especially on Hell difficulty. Many players, judging by the streams, restart not because it's bad, but because it's not ideal.
"Одержать сто побед в ста битвах — это не вершина воинского искусства. Повергнуть врага без сражения — вот вершина.
"Сущность войны — обман. Искусный должен изображать неумелость. При готовности атаковать демонстрируй подчинение. Когда ты близок — кажись далёким, но когда ты очень далеко — притворись, будто ты рядом."
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Rabe
Please register me for the tournament.
Re-register. The application has a limited number of characters.
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