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"Новичок-2014. Winter"

Greetings to all fans of Heroes of Might and Magic 3, future participants, and supporters of the traditional "Новичок" tournament. I hope the new season will once again delight us with great games and new discovery players.

This is our traditional, and also anniversary - tenth tournament for Новичок.
We do not have a precise and strict definition of who a "Новичок" is. This tournament is for those
- who only recently realized that you can play the favorite old game Heroes over the internet,
- who only recently found out that they are not the only one who can easily beat computers and that it's not so simple with a real person,
- who recently started playing with more than one or two heroes and building chains...

We do not invite fathers and grandfathers, we don't want to see clones, and would a medal obtained in such a dubious way even have value for a strong player?

The main goal of the tournament is to get to know each other and gain experience in communication and gameplay.


Winners of past tournaments:
"Новичок-2013. Summer" - The_
"Новичок-2013. Winter" - высокий
"Новичок-2012. Summer" - twaryna
"Новичок-2012. Winter" - 7z
"Новичок-2011. Summer" - Sky Pioneer
"Новичок-2011. Winter" - Sevensan
"Новичок-2010. Summer" - тенью бездомной
"Новичок-2010. Winter" - Сатир
"Новичок-2009. Summer" - Erdem

Participant Requirements.

1. A player registered on our forum or another gaming resource for no more than a year is considered a Новичок.
2. Players who have longer playing experience but wish to play in the tournament will be considered on an individual basis.
3. Already sufficiently strong players who have shown good results in any tournament are not allowed to participate.
4. A tournament participant must have at least one game in the seasonal rating according to HeroesWorld rules (you can play after registering). This is necessary to ensure that you are technically able to play online and have an understanding of World's rules. In separate cases, this criterion may be waived (if the player is known on other gaming resources and plays successfully there).
5. Players wishing to participate in the tournament agree to provide any additional information requested by the tournament judges.
6. Organizers reserve the right to refuse registration to anyone if they believe there are valid reasons, without a public explanation of those reasons.

Applications should be left in this thread. In the application, specify:

1. ICQ number for contact;
2. convenient time for playing;
3. when the first online game was played;
4. if the participant came from another gaming resource, they must write where from and their nickname on that resource.


Organizational Issues.

1. Leads - The_ (IСQ 241568808), Lim4 (ICQ 451224720, creating and updating tables, tracking tournament results), Grizvald (ICQ 592025309, compiling the participant list and selecting players for participation in the tournament), Judges - Pit for LM (ICQ 471401475).
2. The tournament is held according to the Rules of organization, conduct and participation in HOMM3 online tournaments.
3. For each game played, participants must provide a detailed report and detailed confirmation in this thread. Only in this case will the game be counted.
4. Technical results are assigned for games not played within the established timeframe.
5. All tournament games go into the seasonal rating. The list of reports will be passed to the Rating lead. Do NOT duplicate reports in the seasonal rating.
All tournament reports must be written using the automatic report writing system.
6. Saves of all games must be kept until the end of the tournament and presented upon first request by the tournament leads, judges, or any member of the AC.
7. Disputable moments, if any arise, should be discussed off-forum. For a resolution, you must contact the tournament lead or judge via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
The same judicial decision is made primarily based on the tournament rules. If the situation that arose is not regulated by the rules, the judges are guided by basic logic and gaming ethics.
8. Based on the results of the tournament, the winner will be awarded a "Winner of the Новичок Tournament" medal under their avatar

Regulations.

Stage 1. Group Stage.
All games in the group are played on template 2sm4d(3).
Each player in the group plays one game against all others. 1 point is awarded for a win, 0.5 to both for a draw, and 0 for a loss.

One week is given per game. Games can be played in any order.
If a player has not played the required number of games by the end of the current round, they must explain the reasons on the forum or by contacting the tournament leads personally. "Disappeared" participants will be disqualified and replaced by players from the reserve list.

Two players who scored the most points advance from the group to the playoffs. In case of equal points, places are distributed according to additional indicators (in order of priority):
1. Berger Coefficient (calculated only based on results shown in the group).
2. Head-to-head match.
3. Points earned in a game "weigh" more than technical wins.
4. Points earned in a game against the LM team.
5. If it is impossible to determine who advances to the playoffs based on the previous indicators, players will be offered a tie-break game scheme. At this moment, it is impossible to foresee all possible combinations of results. Therefore, the final scheme will be thought out according to the situation that develops in the groups by the end of the stage.
In this case, the seasonal (permanent) rating will play a major role.

Stage 2. Team Tournament "New Players" vs "Legends and Myths". The Новичок team, consisting of players who scored at least 2 points in the group stage, plays against the team of the best HW players.

Stage 3. Playoffs - 16 participants.
Matches are best-of-3 (first to 2 wins). Time limit per round is 2 weeks.
The Grand Final is first to 3 wins, starting with a score of 1-0 in favor of the upper bracket winner; i.e., the upper bracket winner needs to win 2 times, and the lower bracket winner - 3 times.

Dates.

Registration: December 28, 2013 - January 18, 2014.
Approval of participant list: January 18-22, 2014.
Group stage draw and start of the tournament: January 24, 2014.

Rules.

1. Game version. The tournament is held on game version SoD 3.2(4.0) + HD mod + by mutual agreement HW_rulez (For correct operation, the patch must be installed for both players), and by mutual agreement WT.
2. The tournament is conducted according to the rules of online games in Heroes 3.
3. Restarts total 3 days (111+111+111 or 111+112 or 113).
4. In the final part of the tournament, the template is chosen by a draw from a list of 5 templates: 2sm4d3, jebus Cross, Panic, 8mm6a, mini nostalgia.

All players on the tournament participant list must do the following:
1. Check if your ICQ number is entered in your profile; add it there if it is not.
If it is in your profile, a small green daisy - the ICQ symbol - is visible under the avatar. If not, you must follow the algorithm.
2. Leave an application in this thread. To do this, click the Register for tournament button located at the beginning of this thread.
3. To create a report, you will need to click the New report button located at the top of each page of the thread and fill in all necessary fields according to the template. After that, write your detailed comments on the game.
4. To confirm the report, the second player must find the game report, click the Confirm report button, and also write a detailed report.
5. It is considered good tone to thank the opponent for the game.
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In reply to The_
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From the start, Goltran, a stable next to the castle, but only one road, and it led to a one-way street =(, too late to retreat. As a result, I found it off-road only on the 4th week of my campaign =(, and then an opponent appeared in the Fortress without giving me a chance =)

Thanks for the game.
Battle Report Accepted
Замок / Castle Faction Замок / Castle
Валеска / Valeska Start Hero Валеска / Valeska
Галтран / Galthran Main Hero Галтран / Galthran
Поражение / Lose Поражение / Lose
Подземелье / Dungeon Faction Подземелье / Dungeon
Шакти / Shakti Start Hero Шакти / Shakti
Гундула / Gundula Main Hero Гундула / Gundula
Map Template
8mm6a
Game Length
215 days
Game Date
2/24/2014
Reported
2/24/2014 4:47 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Akella 1333 1332 -1 ↓
Maretti 1991 1992 +1 ↑
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/24/2014 9:21 PM

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On the very first day I kill a swamp computer through a bugged passage. Then for the entire week I suffer from complete nonsense. I reveal three external dwellings of hydras, which are fairly heavily guarded, also a sword +12/-2 and wings. I build hydras in the fort.
On the second week I start slowly ramping up. I take one external dwelling of hydras, the pre-mini Dragon Fly Hive, and get closer to the sword and wings. I notice a 5th level hat too late, having already run far away from it. My opponent of course saw it and took it. After that, the game makes little sense, since everyone and their mother is flying, jumping, and TPing around. After struggling for a couple of days, I realize how bleak everything is and surrender.
Thank you for the game!

At first we restarted many times, including due to meeting. In the final generation, Neela, Aenain, and Alamar arrive, despite having little money and a tiny respawn, I had to play) I choose Neela as my main. On the first week I scouted 2 external dwellings of hydras and one of angels; at the hydras my opponent was revealed, so I decided to play through the angels. But on the first week I couldn't break through a stack of dread knights; in the end, on the first week I captured three computers, though the army was purely symbolic... but 6 castles and decent income! (4500) On the second week I build Light for Aenan (250) and since I sacrificed the last troops assaulting the dungeon next to the 5-magic hat, I hit the dread knights (12 units) with just raw meat. Next I rush to recharge batteries. On day 124 I hit with Neela using 2 angels against 88 royal griffins for a Pandora's Box (all earth magic just in time for expert Wisdom!!), on day 125 88 griffins against vampires without Slow, it was painful... On day 126 I jump to my opponent, then take +3 all for the Queen's Crown. I control the map, prepare to take Dragon Utopias, but my opponent concedes victory anyway, although we could have fought some more.
Thank you for the game!!
The opponent played well, squeezed almost everything possible out of his setup, the only thing was the hat should have been taken at any cost..


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I decided to rush with an Asheena, breaking through thousands of shooter stacks, losing more skeletons than a necromancer. I find the enemy, on the charge I kill him with a Meteor Shower in the castle — there are only 60 Troglodytes, 15 Evil Eyes, a couple of Medusas, 4 Manticores.
Shakti came there with a single stack.

Thanks for the game!

P.S. Should I duplicate the report with the creature into the auto rating?
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Battle Report Accepted
Некрополь / Necropolis Faction Некрополь / Necropolis
Эйслинн / Aislinn Start Hero Эйслинн / Aislinn
Эйслинн / Aislinn Main Hero Эйслинн / Aislinn
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Подземелье / Dungeon Faction Подземелье / Dungeon
Шакти / Shakti Start Hero Шакти / Shakti
Шакти / Shakti Main Hero Шакти / Shakti
Map Template
2sm4d(3)
Game Length
125 days
Game Date
2/24/2014
Reported
2/24/2014 8:22 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Aiwe 1727 1734 +7 ↑
49-er 1527 1520 -7 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/24/2014 8:46 PM

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I decided to rush with Aslina, breaking through thousands of shooter stacks, losing more skeletons than I could raise, I find the enemy, kill him on the fly with Meteor Shower in the castle, there are only 60 Troglodytes, 15 Evil Eyes, a couple of Medusas, 4 Manticores.
Shakti came there with 1 stack.

Thanks for the game!
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We were resting for a long time... I haven't seen such terrible layouts for Dungeon in a long time... and we rested until I got Shakti with 1 stack and just without any hirelings, the portal of summoning didn't work either (earlier it was no better), how often does this happen, I don't know about others but for me it's not often... but still I took the 2nd town, placed the Cats with Citadel, was considering whether to take the Giant hireling and set up the portal of summoning, but there wasn't much time... in short, the opponent came... with Meteor Shower... I lost, that's understandable... I thought it couldn't be used... thanks for the game. It remains to clarify about the Shower, but having briefly skimmed the rules, it seems it's allowed...
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Akella
From the start, Goldtran, a stable near the castle, but only one road, and it led to a one-way street =(, too late to restart. As a result, I found it off-road only on the 4th week =(, and then an opponent appeared in the Fortress of Bad Luck with no chance for me =)

Thanks for the game.

I confirm. Somewhat slow start, but things went very fast when I got all the very overpowered lvl 5 spells from a box. In the end, I had full control, perfect skills, 22 aas, 1800 skell warriors, and high stats. Thanks for playing.
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02/24/2014 Aiwe (Red, Necropolis, Aislinn, Aislinn) def 49-er (Blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) 2sm4d(3) 125

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It took a long time to replay... I haven't seen such a terrible situation for Dungeon in a long time... and we replayed it until I got Shakti with 1 stack and just no mercenaries, and the portal wasn't working (it wasn't better before), I don't know how often this happens to others, but it doesn't happen often to me... but I took 2 cities, put down cats with a citadel, I was thinking about whether to take back the giant mercenary and put down a summoning portal, but there wasn't much time... in short, the opponent came... with a meteor shower... I lost, that's clear... I thought it couldn't be used... thanks for the game. It remains to clarify about the shower, but after a quick look at the rules, it seems like it can be...
Heroes who specialize in these spells can use them without restrictions.
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Spring 2014
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The official deadline for the group stage has ended. As usual, we have withdrawals, forfeits, disappearances, and delays. Therefore, we will summarize the results as the situation with each player becomes clearer.
Respect to those who played all their matches on time.

Let's start in reverse order. About the future.

Play-Off


Tournament system – Full Double Elimination. Losers from the upper bracket move to the lower bracket, where they play until eliminated.

Regulations.
Matches are played until 2 wins. The timeframe for one round is 2 weeks.
In the final, the winner of the upper bracket needs to win 2 times, and the winner of the lower bracket needs to win 3 times.

Game rules - standard.

The colors in the bracket are for the first game.

The choice of template is made by picking from the list: 2sm4d(3), 8mm6a, Jebus Cross, Mini-Nostalgia, Panic.
The blue player starts the process.

Blue indicates those who choose the Castle, and red indicates those who choose the color.

In the second match, players switch colors. The template and Castles are chosen again.

If there is a tie (1-1) or a draw in one of the games, a third game is played on the 2SM4d(3) template. Castles are random. In the third game, the colors are as they were in the first game during the initial generation. Then the colors change after each subjective restart.
If neither player has won 2 times, the series continues, and subsequent games proceed similarly to the third game – template 2SM4d(3), castles random, color changes in the initial generation and after each subjective restart.
Play-Off Draw:

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Pete, explain why, with a score of 1-1, you would play a skirmish on a random map. The deciding match is heavily influenced by randomness. It's an unclear approach.
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Pete, explain why you would play a skirmish on a random map when the score is 1-1?
The deciding match is heavily influenced by randomness.
It's an unclear approach.

I completely agree, what's wrong with using standard maps and castles in the deciding match?
It seems like you want to put everyone on equal footing regardless of the starting color, but in reality, the third game is in the hands of the random map generator. Okay, I guess I'll just have to avoid getting to the third game:smile13:
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Pete, explain why you would play a random map when the score is 1-1?
The deciding match is heavily influenced by randomness.
It's an incomprehensible approach.
Analyze the results of the LM vs NP Tournaments (both current and past) and explain to me why this "huge influence" doesn't affect team LM.
LM's only loss was on Jebus Cross, with 2 draws on MM6.
However, players can agree and play on any other template.

Now let's look at our past.

In groups that have fully played against each other, there are still outstanding matches in the NP vs LM Tournament. Since we were slightly delayed at the start of this tournament and some members of team NP just joined, we will extend the deadline here. I believe that by March 10th everyone who wants to will have time to play.

Only Group C finished without any outstanding matches:


Group A:

Player sartrik has been disqualified, and his results have been annulled.
I invite Dark30 and Rabe to join team NP, and we also await a result from Graf_Bananov.

Groups D and E:

artbocha - save with Cobra.
Redsnow, Cincinnat, RoninHW - no information about games with LM.

Group F:

shadowgodd has been disqualified, and his results have been annulled.
MertviyProrok and Man-darin - no information about games with LM.

Group G:

Respect to Aiwe for bringing a point to team NP and managing to play everything on time, despite his participation in the Moscow championship.
Aiwe
P.S. Should I duplicate the report with the creature in the auto rating?
Yes, that was very good. Stomper, please do the same.
Sigeon receives 2 tech points for ignoring the tournament. And 49-er is added to team NP.

From groups H and B, identity and shameonyou are not rushing to play for team NP.

Currently, 14 matches have been played in the NP vs LM tournament, and the score is 1-13.
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Pit for LM
Analyze the results of the LM vs NP tournaments (both current and past) and explain to me why this "huge influence" doesn't affect the LM team.
LM's only loss was on Jebus, and they had 2 draws on MM6.
However, players can agree and play on any other map.

Their loss was actually on 8MM6a, as you can only beat these "Prussians" on an HL+U map :rolleyes:
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Double in the auto rating.
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Battle Report Accepted
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Кайри / Kyrre Start Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Кайри / Kyrre Main Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Подземелье / Dungeon Faction Подземелье / Dungeon
Шакти / Shakti Start Hero Шакти / Shakti
Шакти / Shakti Main Hero Шакти / Shakti
Map Template
8mm6a
Game Length
216 days
Game Date
2/22/2014
Reported
2/25/2014 8:52 AM
Rating Impact Archived
Aiwe 1708 1721 +13 ↑
twaryna 1669 1656 -13 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/25/2014 9:46 AM

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They lost right on map 8mm6a...
You're right, I made a mistake, sorry. So it’s even stranger that the skill plays a smaller role on the most balanced template than on Jebus Cross and Castle?
In general, I am not inclined to discuss eternally discussed topics about the balance of templates, etc., this is an absolutely pointless exercise that wastes a lot of time. We either play according to the rules or try to agree with our opponent on anything. The main thing is to play HoMM3.

And the current situation looks like this: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Group B:

Slayzer needs to schedule a tech win with Lth; he played his first match in the group against Maretti, but shameonyou hasn't played a match with LM yet.

Group H:

For some reason, identity isn't rushing to get a point from LM and take first place.

We will all think together as an organizing committee about these two groups; I tend to believe that the fairest solution would be transitional matches between them. While we are thinking, you have time to play and improve or worsen your positions.
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I was a bit unlucky – I started with an army that had no ducks and several angels, plus no artillery for attack/defense on the battlefield, and no earth magic, which led to losses in the Global Offensive, and then I encountered a block of kings, cyclops, and orcs, and I surrendered. Thanks for the game.
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Battle Report Accepted
Некрополь / Necropolis Faction Некрополь / Necropolis
Галтран / Galthran Start Hero Галтран / Galthran
Галтран / Galthran Main Hero Галтран / Galthran
Поражение / Lose Поражение / Lose
GoD
Красный / Red
Подземелье / Dungeon Faction Подземелье / Dungeon
Шакти / Shakti Start Hero Шакти / Shakti
Шакти / Shakti Main Hero Шакти / Shakti
Map Template
Jebus Cross
Game Length
124 days
Game Date
2/22/2014
Reported
2/25/2014 9:50 AM
Rating Impact Archived
shameonyou 1491 1483 -8 ↓
GoD 1680 1688 +8 ↑
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/2/2014 10:01 AM

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