Posts from CIS-2014 in Minsk.

You are 100% wrong here. You've probably encountered situations where you have no control over the map, while your opponent has two Air books and a stronghold. And you physically can't gain control. This problem is somewhat solved in WoTA. You've also probably encountered one-way portals; it's unpleasant to run into a non-functional exit, right?)) This problem is perfectly solved in WoTA. The fact that all four schools of magic are in demand in WoTA is also bad, right? Now, please answer what your words, which I quoted above, have to do with this?

Where can I download WT?

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The best thing you can suggest is splitting by templates, and if a SoD player meets a SoD player or HotA players meet, then everyone understands they will play their own version, regardless of the template.

Of course I've encountered both a lack of control and one-sided games. Moreover, I myself believe that if you take something from HotA into SoD HD+ (and it's these two "versions of the game" that should be compared), it's removing one-sided setups and reworking the guild. Obviously, it's unpleasant, but not fatal. One-sided games on 8mm6a are extremely rare now, plus there's 8mm6b, where one-sided games are impossible in principle. On 6lm and 8hm12 — that's a problem there, I agree. But there are other templates. Oh, excuse me, the daddies only want to play XL+U, and everything else is garbage for noobs.

Next. Everything presented as advantages of the HotA version, especially things that "speed up the game" — starting army, experience, tax, morale, etc. — it's all bland nonsense. Invented precisely by the daddies who got tired of losing "due to the layout." The balance of magic schools is complete nonsense. In HotA, Air is slightly more than completely useless. Yes, the dominance of Earth as a school is removed. But the claim that all 4 schools are in demand is a beautiful fairy tale. Just like most of the "advantages" of the daddy's HotA.

And now my words about "the strongest should win in any layout" haven't lost a single bit of relevance ;)

No one was belittling anyone; I outlined the objective advantages of VT and SoD for a specific event.

You're contradicting yourself.
And what do you mean "not fatal"? Are you some mega-pro player who just didn't find control and should still win because you have skill? Or how does that work?
Imho, it's very fatal indeed. Dozens of examples of lost games for exactly this reason.
And another point. Once I played an 8-player game on SoD with Medium. A couple of us cleared the whole map. In the end, one person had TP but no DD. The other had DD but no TP. The one with the portal was stronger, but there was no way to catch the opponent.
In the time pressure of a real tournament setting, the game goes to a judge's decision. And on what basis will the judge choose the winner? A coin flip?? If we were playing VT back then with Kostyan - no problems would have arisen with this.

Of course, I've encountered a lack of control and one-sided maps. Moreover, I believe that if anything is to be taken from the Hive version and applied to the SoD HD+ (and it should be compared to these two "versions of the game"), it should be the removal of one-sided maps and the restructuring of the guild. It's clear that this isn't pleasant, but it's not fatal. One-sided maps in 8mm6a are now extremely rare + there's 8mm6b, where one-sided maps are simply impossible. 6lm and 8xm12 - there it is a problem, I agree. But there are other templates. Oh, sorry, the "daddies" should only play HL+U, and everything else is nonsense and for losers.

Furthermore, everything presented as advantages of the Hive version, and even more so, "speeding up the game" - the starting army, experience, tax, morale, etc. - is all bland stuff. Invented precisely by the "daddies" who got tired of losing "according to the script." Regarding the balancing of magic schools - it's complete nonsense. In the Hive version, Air is useless, more than completely. Yes, the dominance of Earth as a school has been removed. But in general, the idea that all 4 schools are in demand is a beautiful fairy tale. As are most of the "advantages" of the "daddies'" Hive version.

And now, my words that "the strongest should win in any scenario" do not lose a single bit of relevance ;)

I'm not contradicting myself. Yes, you can lose a game due to a lack of control, just as you can lose for other reasons. Essentially, the arguments boil down to this. You're trying to remove the influence of randomness in determining the "strongest," while making the game bland and boring. All the most comfortable conditions are created for these "strongest" players, because if something goes wrong, they get very upset. Because if the strongest player loses, they blame the map layout, the lack of control, luck, and so on, but not because they played poorly or not well enough, or because the opponent was stronger (or perhaps luckier) in that particular situation. I repeat, we're talking exclusively about HL+U templates. And to say that only they are a true indicator of skill is just ridiculous. And if the strongest player loses on Jeb, M200, or Balance, then again, they just had bad luck.

I'm not saying that VT is bad, and Sod HD+ is good. I'm just saying that I'm once again amused by the arrogant opinions that only VT allows you to show real gameplay, and only there is the true class and skill of players revealed. I won't even mention the bugs, the stability of the version, etc.

Interesting games are also played on M200, I don't deny it, but only on a variable, large template is there time to correct the bias of the generator.

I can't wait for Maretti to start playing Warlords and kill all these old-timers one by one) The Warlords chat will probably burn to the ground)

Please excuse me, as the organizer I'm trying to be as tight as possible with everyone here so there are no misunderstandings by default, but...

What you wrote simply blew my mind. It feels like you play Heroes as if it were Diablo or Quake... Although I've heard something completely different. In HoMM5, you're actually a recognized god.

What do you mean "bland crap"??? Absolutely clear characteristics were listed that truly influence the competitive aspect of our game. Small maps are indeed relevant for players of average level and below. I experienced this firsthand, going through hardships to get into WT, not just because I "liked the features." And it was precisely the competitive play of WT on large maps, by neutralizing the random factors inherent in SoD, that raised my skill to a normal level.

Yes, SoD is a stable version, but players in it don't develop one bit. It's like playing Minesweeper for speed.

I am writing all this while agreeing to hold the CIS tournament with absolute priority for SoD, in order to ensure the attendance of the maximum number of Heroes fans. But let's acknowledge the obvious things, gentlemen. And not write, as ATG—who is disliked by many here—likes to say, "what kind of nonsense is this?". Common sense must prevail over feelings when it comes to sports.

I see the reason as something else. A fear of something unfamiliar.

Just the facts: among the people who take prize places in lans and beyond, you won’t find a single one claiming that WOG is a myth for the self-affirmation of "old-timers" )). And their opinion is actually more significant than, for example, the opinion of Grizvald, who saw a game on SoD, quickly whipped up a wonderful toad, and then just as swiftly disappeared. Of course, there will be a couple of people who really tried it but couldn’t get into it. Their opinion deserves respect, but they are an overwhelming minority. In response, you could cite the example of Dubrovin. HW hasn’t seen bigger conservatives. In the end, he still switched from SoD... even if it was to Jebus ))) And generally, about half of the WOG players willingly and successfully play SoD. So there’s no need to throw around such offensive words ;)