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Vikk, you seem like a smart and well-mannered person. Why do you constantly insult your opponents? Sometimes it's unpleasant to read your posts, not only because of the content but also because of your arrogant attempts to put yourself above your opponents.
Everyone has their flaws... and this particular trait of mine is definitely not something to emulate.
Wow, how interesting, the discussion about "what the hell is it worth" has evolved into a discussion about "what will happen next." We are growing in influence, and that's a good thing.
There won't be a battle, even despite the likely provocations (Roma, stop talking nonsense about NATO; this isn't Yugoslavia, there isn't a clearly defined interethnic conflict here; I think even reading Wikipedia is enough to understand this; you've completely discredited yourself as an opponent).
Anything can happen next, and it could be very interesting, with unpredictable developments due to the mutual preliminary "reading" of scenarios, followed by countermeasures in the media and counter-decisions in headquarters.
It's impossible to predict how it will all end; there are many scenarios, and there is no most likely outcome, but both sides have to keep up with the changing situation. That's how it is, right?
It's better to go to the "Maidan" than to sit here and talk nonsense; everything is much clearer there than in a TV or on a monitor.
Хаос - это порядок, которым сложнее управлять.
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StickyFingaz
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so, in the end, Kuchma turned out to be the most decent president?
Wow, how interesting, the discussion about "what the hell is it worth" has evolved into a discussion about "what will happen next." We are growing in the eyes of the public, and that's good. There will be no bloodshed, even despite the likely provocations (Roma, stop talking nonsense about NATO; this is not Yugoslavia, there is no pronounced ethnic hatred here; I think even reading Wikipedia is enough to understand this; you have completely discredited yourself as an opponent). Next, everything could be very interesting, with unpredictable developments due to the mutual preliminary "reading" of scenarios, followed by countermeasures in the media and counter-conclusions in headquarters. It is impossible to predict how it will all end; there are many scenarios, and there is no most likely outcome, but at the same time, both sides have to chase after the departing train. That's how it is, right? It's better than sitting here and talking all sorts of nonsense; come to the Maidan; everything is much clearer there than on TV or a monitor.
I'd rather smoke something than read what you write. Honestly, I don't see much difference in the information I receive whether it's from a thousand or thousands of kilometers away, and I don't understand what relevant information you could possibly be sharing from "undecided" Crimea. You create amazing pictures, you're a genius in art, a pro in Heroes, and in politics... well, I just really respect you.
Throughout its history, Ukraine has never been able to exist peacefully and independently. At one time it was under the influence of Russia, then Poland, then the Crimean Khanate, and now there is a trend towards Europe.
Throughout its history, Ukraine has never been able to exist peacefully and independently. It has been part of Russia, Poland, the Crimean Khanate, and now there's a trend towards Europe.
You voiced what I've wanted to write about for a long time, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. IMO, all the problems stem from this.
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I'd rather smoke something than read what you're writing. Honestly, I don't see much difference in the information I receive, whether it's from a thousand or thousands of kilometers away, and I don't understand what relevant information you could be sharing from "undecided" Crimea. You create amazing pictures, you're a genius in art, a pro in Heroes, but in politics... well, I just really respect you.
What does "undecided" mean? Is it necessary to choose a side? And what if neither side is acceptable?
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Or something more?
Wow, you're witty.
Added 9 minutes later And in general, guys, if a civil war breaks out, I'll "applaud you standing" – meaning I'll support you.
If Ukraine actually leases such lands to China, it will be simply ridiculous.
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Javdet
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Favio touched upon a relevant and unpleasant topic for many. While there's still time, I'll briefly outline my thoughts.
The people who currently position themselves as a proud and free nation have never actually been that. Throughout its history, Ukraine has been under the control of various powers. It has managed to assert itself a couple of times, but the course of events quickly put an end to that. Moreover, in one case, a person even became a national hero, although by today's standards, he would undoubtedly be considered a traitor. Finally, they waited... According to the script of the series, happiness should have arrived, but in reality, things haven't quite worked out. New hetmans have been fighting for ideals for about 20 years, but the overall situation remains unchanged. For example, right now, they're showing a ridiculous beer commercial on TV – it's like saying, "We're jerks, but we're the right kind of jerks." I'm listening to the commercial, and I see parallels: Jews are cunning and calculating, Germans are pedantic and meticulous, etc. But who are Ukrainians? They're just the guys from the commercial... and history clearly demonstrates this.
As Professor Preobrazhensky said, "Klim Chugunkin." And that's extremely sad.
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Ihtiandr
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The USA was also a colony of England for a long time. Every country goes through this, and everything has its time. But this is not a reason to think that nothing can be changed and to meekly continue to lick the master's boots. One must always fight for independence. Events like the Maidan, despite their scale, cannot instantly lead to a result. But they are necessary building blocks in the construction of a free society. As they say, freedom is expensive, but it is worth it.
The USA was also a colony of England for a long time. Every country goes through this; everything has its time. But this is not a reason to believe that nothing can be changed and to meekly continue to lick the boots of the master. One must always fight for independence. Events like the Maidan, despite their scale, cannot instantly lead to results. But they are necessary building blocks in the construction of a free society. As they say, freedom is expensive, but it is worth it.
The USA has a completely different history; it's a matter of mentality. All of Europe flocked to America, plus the illegal import of black people throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries. People were hired for various jobs, without having any rights, and in this way, they earned land for themselves in the near future. And then came the typical American dream: family, home, farm. Or a little later, in the 19th century, you could buy land for a pittance (I don't remember exactly how much). America threw territories around left and right until they ran out, moving westward and developing it. No one will go to Ukraine like that. Today, many people also want to go to the USA, but there is nowhere left, and they are raffling off visas.
If we go back to the 18th century, when the USA gained independence, then the main influence came from the large bourgeoisie, who were afraid for their capital. A little over a hundred years later, they would be called the "uncrowned kings of America." In Ukraine, the people have a completely different mentality.
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Niemand
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People in Ukraine have a completely different mindset.