Skip to content

Posts from Forum

1.0 (1 rating)
In reply to Ihtiandr
User Avatar
Auto-translated
Ihtiandr
Mass riots and brawls are perfect for this.
They can't possibly cover up the consequences of their blunder with the beating of students))) And you say that brawls are suitable))). You are thousands of kilometers away, receiving information from biased sources on the internet, and you so confidently assert something unknown ;) Both the EU and the US hate Yanukovych, and if there is a conflict, he will be the scapegoat and the first to suffer, and Natasha will also send in her troops to supposedly help resolve the situation)). He has something to lose, unlike those leaders who shout in the squares and are located not so far away and are supported by foreign countries.
So, reset and think about who needs the riots)).
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
User Avatar
Auto-translated
Javdet
He has something to lose, unlike those leaders who shout in the square.

That's right, he's afraid of losing power. But he can't keep silent indefinitely and pretend that nothing is happening. Right now, he has two options: either resign or try to suppress the protests; there is no third option. He clearly doesn't intend to resign, so he will provoke clashes and deploy troops.
ICQ: 494048169
Не любят многие порнуху, а я... А я люблю порнуху! © А.С. Пушкин
Twitch Channel
Crypt Videos
In reply to Ihtiandr
User Avatar
Auto-translated
Ihtiandr
That's right, he's afraid of losing power. But he can't stay silent forever and pretend that nothing is happening. Right now, he has two options: either resign or try to suppress the protests; there is no third option.
There is a third option. And a fourth one too. And a fifth one as well. You'll see it all yourself...

The most obvious option is to simply ignore the protests. I don't know how much they are hindering things; rumors say it's not that bad. If that's the case, let them sit there and spend the sponsors' money. And if you approach the issue intelligently, you can even profit from it, for example, by organizing tours to show how people are protesting in Ukraine.
In reply to Javdet
User Avatar
Auto-translated
Javdet
You are thousands of kilometers away, receiving information from biased sources online, and yet you so confidently assert something completely nonsensical.
Just a few meters from me, people think the same way as Ikhti, unfortunately. They believe that military assistance is needed to suppress the rally, as men have already learned to hold shields and build barricades against the Berkut riot police:cool:. But you can't withdraw troops when there is no state of emergency declared in the country, and you can't declare a state of emergency without mass riots... From this brain-dead person, who lacks both intelligence and conscience, and who has been in power for so many days, you can expect anything. :( Trains and buses with government employees are arriving, and a stage is being set up for them almost next to the Euromaidan, and the Ministry of Defense has been tasked with setting up a field kitchen for them... Is this normal? To do such things with my taxes. But at least you're right, and nothing terrible will happen:smile05:. And the troops will remember their oath: "I serve the people of Ukraine!":)

Added after 9 minutes
Wicc
The most obvious option is to simply ignore the Maidan.
People will not allow themselves to be ignored. Maybe in your mind, it's already normal when the authorities and the post office ignore you, but not in ours.
Wicc
There is a third option. And there is a fourth option too. And there is a fifth option too. You will see everything yourself...
And what will he see? Go ahead, impress us) I've already read about the division of Ukraine:D
451-224-720
In reply to Ihtiandr
User Avatar
Auto-translated
Ihtiandr
That's right, he's afraid of losing power. But he can't stay silent forever and pretend that nothing is happening. Right now, he has two options: either resign or try to suppress the protests; there is no third option. He clearly doesn't intend to resign, so he will provoke clashes and deploy troops.
It's not difficult for me to repeat. If a bloodbath starts, the Americans and their allies will actively help, as they have done many times before in Yugoslavia, the Middle East, etc. Do you think Yanukovych wants that? ;) Representatives of the EU are already hanging around Maidan, inspecting whether the people are protesting correctly. And if such an excuse appears, then "helping" will be a sacred duty.

Added 2 minutes later
In general, respect for the troll.
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
User Avatar
Auto-translated
In Dovlatov's "Preserve" there is a wonderful observation (ladies, please don't take offense): "In a conversation with a woman, there is one painful moment. You present facts, reasons, arguments. You appeal to logic and common sense. And suddenly you discover that she finds the very sound of your voice repulsive."

Here's something else I came across:
User Avatar
Auto-translated
Wicc
The most obvious option is to simply ignore the Maidan.

The Maidan is a huge pain in Yanukovych's neck. The longer he ignores it, the more it will swell, and the more harm ignoring it will cause. The details are well described here.

Javdet, you are trying to explain the reason why Yanukovych cannot deploy troops right now. Yes, that's true. That's why he is going to take a cunning step - provoke mass unrest (to which he supposedly has nothing to do with) and deploy troops to resolve it. In this way, he will create an image of himself as a peacemaker and benefactor, get away with it, but at the same time suppress the protest.
Wicc
You provide facts, arguments, and reasoning.

Are you talking about yourself?))
ICQ: 494048169
Не любят многие порнуху, а я... А я люблю порнуху! © А.С. Пушкин
Twitch Channel
Crypt Videos
User Avatar
Auto-translated
The point is that introducing troops won't suppress the protests – if he doesn't understand that, then he's a complete idiot. But it's hard to believe that.
If troops are introduced, Putin will immediately abandon him, as he has gained weight in the world as a "peacemaker" and will not support Yanukovych.
It is also worth paying attention to how everything is presented in Russia and in foreign media. It should be said that they are observing what is happening quite restrainedly.
In my opinion, this indicates that Russia has taken a position of observer, not a supporter of Yanukovych, and if Yanukovych understands this, he will not introduce any troops.
In reply to Lim4
User Avatar
Auto-translated
Lim4
People won't let themselves be ignored. Maybe it's normal for you when the authorities and the postal service ignore you, but it's not normal for us.

In reply to Ihtiandr
User Avatar
Auto-translated
Ihtiandr
here.


Thanks, I read it. It's just water. But this comment is relevant:

"I think that today, few will argue that the Ukrainian people are standing in Maidan day and night not because of simple European integration. Most will agree that the reason for the discontent, to put it mildly, is the economic and political crisis into which the country has been driven by the occupation policy of one specific family and the oligarchs who support it in every way. I won't even raise the issue of bribery among officials and the lawlessness of the police, because, despite the global scale, these are local problems in each specific case, which can be solved through tactical actions. But a strategy is needed to deal with the main problem.
And against this background, any negotiations by the opposition about "releasing those arrested and holding those responsible accountable" somehow seem to be nothing more than hypocrisy.
Okay, they sit down at a round table, agree, release those arrested, punish the police chiefs and pawns. Will the situation in the country change after that? Not a chance. The family will laugh and continue to rob people.
Another demand of the opposition: the resignation of the government. Will the situation in the country change after that? Not a chance. The pro-government oligarchs will have enough money to buy half of the vacant positions for "their people" immediately, and the other half for supposedly opposition figures a little later. And the family will continue to rob people, only with slightly different hands.
Moreover, even if the president, prime minister, and the entire government resign, this does not necessarily lead to a positive outcome for Ukraine. The roots are deep. Give it time, and it will come back.
The only thing that can reverse the process is not just the removal of members of the Family and those associated with them from their positions, but a) recognizing the current leadership as criminals, arresting them, holding a trial, and sentencing them to prison with the confiscation of all property (enough to cover half of the external debt); b) removing and purging officials based on party affiliation up to the regional level; c) finding effective crisis managers (not from politics) to manage the state.
Can the current Maidan lead to such a result? Theoretically, yes.
Do any of the current opposition members have enough strength to even talk about something like this? Unfortunately, no.
Is there a way out of this situation? Who knows! What are your suggestions?"

And in the event of mass unrest, Yanukovych will be the scapegoat in any case, no matter who provokes it. The Americans will present this in the "right" way
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
In reply to Wicc
User Avatar
Auto-translated
Oh, Vic, what a brilliant mind in our Heroes community!
451-224-720
In reply to Wicc
User Avatar
Auto-translated
Wicc
Dovlatov has a wonderful observation in "The Preserve" (ladies, please don't be offended): "There is one painful moment in a conversation with a woman. You present facts, arguments, and reasoning. You appeal to logic and common sense. And suddenly you realize that she is repulsed by the very sound of your voice."
Wicc, you seem like an intelligent and well-mannered person. Why do you constantly insult your opponents? Sometimes it's unpleasant to read your posts, not only because of the content but also because of your arrogant attempts to put yourself above your opponents.
heroes3.tv/juristis
ICQ - 488-784-621, skype - juristis18

Весна 2014.
User Avatar
Auto-translated
=Stinger=
I must say that they are observing what is happening with quite a bit of restraint.

Are you talking about Kiselyov's hysterics and "the weather in Maidan"?)) The propaganda machine on central television is working at full capacity all day long.
=Stinger=
If troops are deployed, he will immediately betray him, just like Putin.

Under the current circumstances, it is obvious that Yanukovych doesn't even go to the toilet without Putin's permission. Yanukovych's plans and actions naturally imply Putin's plans and actions.
ICQ: 494048169
Не любят многие порнуху, а я... А я люблю порнуху! © А.С. Пушкин
Twitch Channel
Crypt Videos
User Avatar
Auto-translated
What does Kiselev, whom no one takes seriously, and Channel One have to do with it?
When I said Russia was observing the situation, I meant the reaction of politicians.
And why are you taking phrases out of context when the main point was that Yanukovych would not deploy troops.
In reply to Ihtiandr
User Avatar
Auto-translated
Ihtiandr
Are you talking about Kiselyov's tantrums and "the weather in Maidan"?)) The propaganda machine on central television is working at full capacity all day long.


Under the current circumstances, it is obvious that Yanukovych doesn't even go to the toilet without Putin's permission. Yanukovych's plans and actions naturally imply Putin's plans and actions.

Yanukovych is not Putin's man, but a person with whom it is completely impossible to negotiate. For example, Russia supported him in the elections, and after them, he immediately ran to negotiate with the EU. It seems his destiny is to run between Russia and the West, squeezing out benefits.


Statistics

Welcome our newest member: Emil