To Vigo or not to Vigo? That is the question. — Tournament Committee

Kilgor

12/8/2012 2:47 PM UTC

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GoedenDag

Yeah, right. Even Katya and RBV, who were caught cheating, weren't banned from playing in the season. But here, based on mere suspicions of maphacking, they're banned from participating in all tournaments (including the season) and their points are deducted. As far as I know, other suspected maphackers were simply added to the blacklist. The consistency of the actions of the AC is obvious.

:smile11: Have you even read a couple of posts in this thread? Ah... they might be too complex for your brain. Here are a couple of questions for you:
Do you really think Vigo hasn't violated any rules that warrant a ban? Do you think this person with low moral standards, who openly displays them, is needed on this resource?

P.S. I've long been convinced that if you even read, you do it superficially and skip unfamiliar letters. Read carefully about Katya and how it all happened.

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MerlinTheMagician

12/8/2012 2:59 PM UTC

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Captain

P.S. The Merlin story is great! :smile02:
It may not be related to the heroes, but it shows why a person is poor (like in the joke: why is he poor - because he's stupid, and why is he stupid - because he's poor). And it's clear why Merlin loves Kyiv so much :)

I ask the moderators to investigate this paragraph for any violations of the forum rules.

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Ник 1

12/8/2012 3:02 PM UTC

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I read the thread from beginning to end. I voted. Now I will ask some questions and share my opinion. Questions: 1) to Qwerty: Please confirm whether the forum user with the nickname Vigo has a son who is older than 13 years and plays or has played Heroes 3. 2) to AK: Why wasn't a closed thread created to list all the accusations, and why was it necessary to spread everything across the pages of the discussions about these accusations? My opinion: The problem of cheating players in SOD, WT, TE, etc., cannot be solved by bans and blacklists. A technical solution is needed to equalize players who are geographically separated as much as possible. As a temporary solution, I suggest the following: - Always play on an open map. - Clicking on an object on the map should display all objects on the map with complete information about what is inside - this can be implemented within the HD mode. - Strictly limit the amount of time for a turn and for the game as a whole.

Победил соперника и ты герой. Проиграл более слабому сопернику и ты уже человек.Иногда так хочется быть героем.

Niemand

12/8/2012 3:03 PM UTC

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Go vote for Vigo's unfair ban.

I voted. A long time ago.

Do you really think Vigo didn't violate any rules that warrant a ban?

Yes.

Do you think this person with low moral standards, who flaunts them, is needed on this resource?

What do his moral standards have to do with it? The rest is up to Vigo to decide.

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Kilgor

12/8/2012 3:07 PM UTC

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GoedenDag

Do you really think Vigo didn't break any rules that would warrant a ban?

Yes.

Vigo himself admitted that sometimes other people made moves for him. This is a violation of the fair play rules, as there is a difference between playing against Vitalik or Vigo.
What do you say to that?

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Ник в лоби - Kilgory

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Dirty_Player

12/8/2012 3:17 PM UTC

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2) Regarding the AK: Why wasn't a closed thread created to list all the accusations, and why was it necessary to spread everything across the discussion pages of these very accusations?

Everything was discussed privately, and a decision was made. Vigo requested a public trial.

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numOne

12/8/2012 3:20 PM UTC

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Nick 1

2) Regarding the Arbitration Committee (AK): Why wasn't a closed thread created to list all the accusations, and why was it necessary to spread everything across the discussion pages of these very accusations?

Player Vigo was added to the Blacklist based on a decision by the AK, using the same materials, which were presented in a closed section of the AK. Vigo requested that they be made public, which is what followed in this post. And given that a large volume of information is not easily absorbed by people at once, and because it needed to be brought into proper order (which takes time), it was decided to post it in several portions during the discussion. Although it might have been clearer if all the "series" were placed in a separate post, they would still have to be quoted during the discussion.

Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.

Sevensan

12/8/2012 6:06 PM UTC

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It would be great to compile the entire series into one post for easier reference. Also, including a series of questions and the lack of answers to them, along with Vigo's misleading answers to some of the questions, would provide a more complete picture.

bRitvo4kA

12/8/2012 7:27 PM UTC

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Here’s another example of how defamation is typical for Vigo: This user accused me of cheating based on his personal experience, claiming that we played several times. See the link here: link In reality, we never played together. After that, I asked him to provide evidence to support his claims: there should be save files, reports, or logs documenting our agreements about playing. After I provided proof to the contrary: link He responded in his usual philosophical manner: link

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Sevensan

12/8/2012 7:54 PM UTC

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bRitvo4kA

Here's another example showing that slander is typical for Vigo:

After I provided evidence to the contrary, see this link.

Ahaha... I read your conversation on ICQ and laughed my head off!!! =))))) Vigo is just being Vigo...

Screamer1982

12/8/2012 8:30 PM UTC

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The latest situation is really tough...

Лучше дорого молчать, чем дешево говорить.

Сатир

12/8/2012 8:41 PM UTC

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I wasn't wrong to start reading this thread from page 23 – Britva's log is amazing :D.

Britva, what advantage does the game host get? :o

Не бійся коли ти один, бійся коли ти нуль.

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bRitvo4kA

12/8/2012 9:17 PM UTC

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If you read this log to the end, you will get a detailed answer to your question.

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Neoandy

12/8/2012 11:08 PM UTC

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I read Razor's log, and here's what immediately came to mind. Back then, Vigo, who was running the Portal, what did he do? — Razor didn't want to play on his host — that's it — Ban! He already, as he wrote, was almost certain of his cheating. And if my memory serves me right, he banned him then! Vigo, were those grounds sufficient for you, compared to the current situation regarding yourself? — I'm sure you're now getting your own "boomerang" in life. Back in those days, you did whatever you wanted on the Portal, and now it's come back to bite you.

But back then, there actually were complaints from players about Razor. At one point, Andrey stormed into Heroes very emotionally and managed, to put it mildly, to have a quarrel with Alone and Kebazavr. Tucha from Portal could well have been suspended for that, but certainly not banned. I don't remember exactly — I think when I became a Magistrate and found out about it, I un-banned him, so to speak, posthumously, since Razor had moved over to HeroesWorld by then.

P.S.: By the way, I remember myself not trusting hosts at first, because I thought it made cheating easier. And the cheaters turned out to be some lazy-stubborn types. If you're going to cheat — do it with comfort :)

positive

12/9/2012 1:41 AM UTC

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Yeah, the chat log is wild.)))
It feels like a twelve-year-old was writing under the nickname Vigo.)))

- Either I create it, or BAN!

What a fun guy :)

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