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Posts from Are you in favor of electing Moderators?
I completely agree. I personally select moderators for each of the three hero sections, and I consult with other moderators. It is very important that the moderator is a reasonable person, and not someone who simply received more votes from friends, and then starts assigning points to everyone and participating in conflicts.
I would really like to know what Pavel wanted to say by creating this topic? Is he dissatisfied with the current composition of the moderators? Are there people who would like to become moderators, but they are not allowed?
Elections are fairer (i.e., the principle of equality of rights is observed) than appointments... If a moderator behaves inappropriately, they will receive their 25 violation points and be removed. What is the problem? And why should they behave inappropriately? Yes, it is not a fact that we will avoid voting for friends. But it is also not a fact that an inappropriate moderator will come as a result of voting for friends.
In general, I am in favor of giving users the right to choose (if, of course, this right to choose is needed by the users themselves).
С истиной где-то рядом...
Лето 2010.
R55Max
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Against the idea of moderators being chosen by all users, because ideally, they should only be appointed by the Creator. What is the purpose of moderators and coordinators? They are needed for the life of the forum, which is managed by someone. They are appointed when the owner cannot handle the entire volume of necessary activities. These people are first chosen by the forum owner, and then, as the forum grows, new branches and areas of management are gradually and reasonably transferred to those whom he has chosen, provided that the forum owner does not object. Furthermore, the moderators and coordinators themselves should select a team for more comfortable work. Personally, I don't see any problems with moderation in the third game; all posts with insults are стараются удаляться, and the moderators themselves стараются изъясняться in a correct manner, even if they are subtly criticized, and the rest are minor issues. In short, the composition of the moderators in the third game is quite adequate; I cannot judge the others.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
ariputra
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the demo-cratic circus has also infiltrated the behind-the-scenes of the Heroes world :)
you could also choose electors who would then directly elect the moderators. you could also elect a chief designer of submarines:
"They tell me: he is short, They tell me: he is dressed too simply They tell me: believe that this guy, is not your match at all"
/topic/3912/ And what was so bad about the elections? At least then it was clear who wanted to become a moderator, and there was at least some way to help the Creator, because he doesn't know people personally and can't track their messages, and therefore gives rights to anyone who asks. Is that good? If there are no problems with this in sections 3 and 4, it does not mean that such control is not needed in other sections of the forum. It turns out to be an egoistic approach if people only think about one branch of the tree.
Be strong. Believe
Zybr
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Arandor, well, if you put it that way, then okay. Most of the "problems" actually come from the "Everything about everything" and "Forum games" sections. But the paradox is that these problems should be addressed exclusively by the moderators of these sections, which doesn't happen too quickly and with a huge degree of bias. If any other moderator gets involved, there's an immediate uproar.
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
Arandor
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What does "it stems from" mean? If there are problems in a section, they remain there and don't bother anyone, and over time they get resolved. People communicate, insults are removed, etc. If someone needs something, they write a private message and say so. If you're talking about specific people from WoW creating problems in your sections, then that's the problem of the moderators assigned to those sections, not ours. Everything is fine with us. Except that there are sometimes disputes in the Mafia section, but that's a common occurrence, and Amko and Kosha keep an eye on it.
Noise usually arises when someone who doesn't actually visit the section and isn't a moderator of that section enters the section and tries to dictate their own rules.
Be strong. Believe
Андрей
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People really have nothing to do. And in all the time (about a year) that I've been visiting the site as a guest (without an account), I've only seen that person once!! on the site (either he was there and left, or he was there at that moment). P.S. I left the site, then thought, "Should I bet with myself for 5 bucks that the person who created this topic is not a moderator?". I came back, checked - and it's true. He's not a moderator)). Only one answer came to my mind to the question "Why does he need this?" - he wants to become a moderator)).
ДУРАКОВ ОЧЕНЬ МАЛО, НО ОНИ РАССТАВЛЕНЫ ТАК ГРАМОТНО, ЧТО ВСТРЕЧАЮТСЯ НА КАЖДОМ ШАГУ. Прошу прощения у Arandor-а. Я слишком резко отреагировал. Просто очень люблю спорт. Извини...[/SIZE]
Zybr
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If there are problems in a section, they remain there and don't bother anyone, and over time they are resolved.
So, just leave them there. Currently, this is not happening.
Unless there are disputes in the Mafia section, but this is a common occurrence, and Amko and Kosha monitor it.
Disputes is putting it mildly, considering that an entire new appeals section was created specifically because of the Mafia.
Noise usually arises when someone who doesn't actually visit the section and isn't a moderator of that section tries to impose their own rules.
You need to decide whether you need an "egoistic" approach to moderation or not. Because when they don't interfere, it's not good, and when they do interfere, it's also not good. And in any case, there is still no order.
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
Siverfale
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I don't think users who consistently receive low ratings would appreciate it if a moderator from the "Everything About Everything" section came into their threads and started moderating their posts according to their own discretion. Therefore, it's unclear why moderators from other sections are entering "Everything About Everything" and starting to punish everyone they deem necessary.
Where do we go? Where do we end up when we save the world?
Zybr
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I don’t think users with low ratings would appreciate it if a moderator from the “Everything About Everything” section came into their threads and started moderating their posts according to their own discretion. Therefore, it’s unclear why moderators from other sections come into “Everything About Everything” and start punishing everyone they deem necessary.
Incorrect example. In the third game, there’s a completely different atmosphere, and they even have their own chat section. And the moderation there is quite adequate.
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
It even has its own chat room for casual conversation.
Check
And the moderation is quite reasonable.
Check - because the decisions of our moderators have not yet been questioned by other users, unlike [another example]. A perfectly valid example.
Where do we go? Where do we end up when we save the world?
Zybr
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I don't understand what "check" means.
because our moderation decisions have not yet been questioned by other users
And is it difficult to question something that doesn't exist? To avoid making unsubstantiated claims, I will give one example: /topic/at/571246/ Until I pointed out those obvious violations, no one even bothered to delete or edit them. And there were moderators at the time. And this is just profanity, which cannot be interpreted in any way but literally. There are still posts with provocations (trolling) against Tox in the thread (who, due to his explosive nature, reacts very strongly).
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
Ment
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I came back and checked – that’s how it is. He’s not a moderator. The only answer that came to my mind to the question “Why does he need this?” is that he wants to become a moderator.
Probably, for this purpose, he recently asked the Creator to remove his moderator status.
In the third game, there’s a completely different “system.”
You can say that about any section; they all have their own “system.” No, I completely agree with Siver, and I think it’s strange that there can be any doubts here. One thing is to help, point out violations, and maybe even give advice on how to proceed in some special cases. It’s completely different to do something on your own; it’s simply a sign of disrespect to the local moderators.
Until I pointed out those obvious violations, no one even bothered to delete or edit them. And there were moderators at the time.
Well, that’s great! They just overlooked it; what can you do? The section is complex; people talk a lot, and sometimes you can miss something. That’s why the “brick” under the messages is actually needed.
