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Zybr

13 years ago

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So, he doesn't seem to be short on cash right now. A single triple kill is expensive, but he manages just fine without it.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Рудый

13 years ago

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In this setting, what worries me is not the Man, but the City. It's really strong. And there's no need to reduce the Toad's resources, because the other two sides are quite powerful, and he needs to somehow manage to pull off a triple attack. IMHO. The City is strong because of 2 kills + redirection (potentially a third) + 2 blocks + defense + healing. It's impenetrable.

kcfgogbfalgfl

13 years ago

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A city should be strong.

That is exactly what an Empire should be.

Ment

13 years ago

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A triple kill is expensive, but he manages well even without it.

A triple kill is great. You can take out two city guards and a mafia member. So, you need to consider the possibility of using it.

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Zybr

13 years ago

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Ment

A triple kill is awesome. You can take out two townies and a mafia member. So, you need to consider the possibility of using it.

Awesome. But it's an additional trump card. Either you bet on it or you don't. Therefore, in my opinion, the price for it is fine. This night action can win the game in the late game for the Mafia.

Rudyy

Town is strong because of 2 kills + redirection (potentially a third) + 2 blocks + protection + healing. Unbreakable.

Yes, plus the synergy. It would be good to weaken it. Also, considering the standard approaches of the Town to the game, everything can again come down to just nights.

The Mafia needs to give Lee another night action or a special ability. Steal the same shot from the Tarkin star.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Победитель

13 years ago

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I agree, the city is strong. I can remove the block from the shuttle pilot and leave only the defense, which only activates if the target uses a ranged attack. And, by the way, there is no connection between them. The Emperor knows Vader, but he cannot communicate with him. The connection is formed when Luke and Vader visit each other. Leia can be given the ranged attack "Sabotage" - the next shot from the Death Star will not be carried out. Regarding Jabba's money: I agree with Ment's suggestion. Previously, I was concerned that the maniac might be left without a kill if his income is reduced.

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Zybr

13 years ago

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I can remove the block from the shuttle pilot's skill and leave only the defense, which activates only if the target uses ranged attack.

No need. It's better if the Officer redirects everyone, otherwise, the mountain archers will be too strong.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Победитель

13 years ago

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It would be better if the Officer redirected everyone; otherwise, the Imperial Gunners are too strong.

The restriction wasn't implemented for balance reasons, but because I personally can't imagine how a regular Imperial officer could command Vader, who, in the films, gave orders to them as he pleased.

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"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"

Zybr

13 years ago

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But your starshot doesn't pierce the admiral's headquarters, does it? Although, if I remember correctly from Star Wars, that weapon was supposed to destroy an entire planet at once.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Ment

13 years ago

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If you're going to implement a redirect, it's better to limit the number of times it can be used, otherwise it becomes pointless.

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13 years ago

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Zybr

But your starshot doesn't pierce the admiral's headquarters, does it? Although, if I remember correctly, in Star Wars, that weapon was supposed to destroy an entire planet at once.

It was implied that it might not hit the spaceship. Okay, I'll remove the restriction on redirection.

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"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"

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Zybr

13 years ago

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Ment

If you want to limit the redirect ability, it's better to restrict it by the number of uses, otherwise it becomes meaningless.

If you limit the number of uses, it would be enough to simply give one of the mafia members the ability to ignore the detective and kill him if he arrives. This would intimidate the detective and make him use his ability more carefully.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Ment

13 years ago

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Or like this, yes. I’ve already expressed my opinion about redirects several times. It’s practically all the strengths of non-destructive edits combined into one.

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13 years ago

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Zybr

If you limit the number of uses, it's enough to simply give one of the mafia members the ability to ignore the Underlord officer and kill him when he arrives. This will intimidate the officer, and he will use his ability more thoughtfully.

That's another option. Solo will have this passive ability.