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I think I'm getting confused about the geography of the Griffin Heart's journey. First, it was with Nicholas, then it ended up in the Hall of Heroes, from where Agrail took it and gave it to Tieru. Biara took the heart from Tieru. Perhaps Faydaen didn't know that the Heart was with her, which is why she didn't demand it back... Then Biara-Shadia teleported Isabel to Shio using the Heart, and Zephyr teleported everyone else there... Judging by the video, the Heart teleported with them all... But how did it end up back with Biara again?
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It's interesting, but why didn't he take revenge? There are many such stupid characters in this game. Or did Faidaen realize that his people were to blame for everything, because they didn't let the savior of Ashan reach his goal? I'm already confused. Even Isabel didn't take revenge...
Regarding Isabel: well, firstly, at the time of the betrayal, she was left without an army, which had been defeated by the "four" (more precisely, at that time, the "five"), so she simply didn't have the opportunity to take revenge at first, and then they fell in love, and so on... And secondly, Isabel is also a "strange" character, and her actions, like Faidaen's, are sometimes very difficult to explain. But nevertheless, elves are a very vengeful people, and they take revenge on anyone who does something bad to them, and if so, then it turns out that Faidaen is not an elf, but some demon worshiper who underwent a purification ritual; otherwise, how can we explain the fact that he takes revenge on whoever he wants, and not on the one who is guilty, and kills everyone so coldly?

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I think I'm getting confused about the geography of the Heart of the Griffin's journey. First, it was with Nicholas, then it ended up in the Hall of Heroes, from where Agrail took it and gave it to Tieru. Biara took the heart from Tieru.

Perhaps Faidaen didn't know that the Heart was with her, which is why he didn't demand it back...

Then Biara-Shadia teleported Isabel to Shi'o using the Heart, and Zephyr teleported everyone else there... Judging by the video, the Heart teleported with them... But how did it end up back with Biara?
I think Godric took the heart to return it to the Griffin's mausoleum, along with everything else that remained of Nicholas, and Biara, when she became Isabel, simply took it from there.

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And I wonder, if everyone had listened to Faidaen and killed Isabel, would the dark messiah not have been born at all?

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And since we're talking about the Heart of the Griffin, I have another question: does the story mention anywhere how Nicholas got it?
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Since we're talking about the griffin's heart, I have another question: does the story mention how Nicholas obtained it?
I haven't come across that. I only found information about how it came to be.
Tieru:
Then I created the Griffin's Heart, saving a part of Alex's soul when he went to Shio and Kha-Belekh dealt with him.

I think Tieru passed the heart on to Nicholas.
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I haven't encountered that. I've only seen how it appeared. I think Tieru passed the heart on to Nicholas.
Then the question arises, why did he create the heart? I think he knew that after some processing, it wouldn't repel demons in Shio, but rather summon them from there, so to speak, giving Nicholas a "time bomb"...
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Then the question arises, why did he create the heart? I think he knew that after some processing, it would no longer repel demons in Shi'o, but summon them from there, so to speak, he gave Nicholas a "time bomb"...
I don't know exactly how he got it, or where from. I played through the entire original game and Hammers of Fate, but I couldn't find it anywhere. And I still don't understand - in the last dialogue scene in Hammers of Fate, Biara sheds the guise of Isabel, what does Alaric do next?
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I don't know exactly how he got it, or where. I played through the entire original game and Hammers of Fate, but I couldn't find it anywhere. And I still don't understand – in the last dialogue scene in Hammers of Fate, Biara sheds the guise of Isabel. What does Alaric do next?
After this video, Alaric kills Andrias and brings his blood to Biara, and with her help, Biara "reworks" the griffin's heart and then uses it to summon demons in the Claw. And I think Alaric went crazy after this scene and stopped distinguishing Biara from Isabel, which is why Biara could give him orders in any form.

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Or Biara was a master of hypnosis, because appearing in the form of a succubus to the empire's chief "demon-fighter," even if he's a bit unhinged, is quite dangerous.
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I don't quite understand the plot involving the Lords: why was Traelsay taking revenge on Railag? Maybe someone can explain it to me? I can't seem to figure it out myself.
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Railag’s clan conquered him, although before that, “Grim Hearts” was considered the strongest clan.
 

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Railag conquered his clan, although before that, "Grim Hearts" was considered the strongest clan.
I didn't know... But I read somewhere that "Grim Hearts" were always allies of the demons, so the question arises: why didn't the demons help Thrall in the final battle with Railag? After all, Railag was the number one enemy of the Overlord. They could have helped their allies in case of success and pleased their "master," but why didn't they do it?
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They were allies until the Rai'lagh clan conquered them. Moreover, they helped, albeit indirectly: Tralsaya instigated Shadia's rebellion, and it is known who she really is.
 

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They were allies until the Rai'lag clan conquered them. Moreover, they helped, albeit indirectly: Tralsai instigated Shadia's rebellion, and it is known who she really is.
Excerpt from Tralsai's biography: "...as soon as he returned home, thoughts of family and revenge began to torment him. Slowly gathering his strength, Tralsai waited for the moment to take revenge... and then Shadia appeared." Tralsai would have raised a rebellion sooner or later even without Shadia, so this is a rather dubious help.
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I was just reminded of Godric's death scene: before he died, he said to Friede, "someday I will share the joy of victory with you, but now...", and then Elrat said, "remember his words...", but I don't remember Godric appearing to Friede after Biara was killed. I don't understand, what did Elrat and Godric mean? And why, if Elrat could so easily destroy Laslo, didn't he kill Alaric? Did he want more of his followers to die? I doubt that the dragon couldn't kill a demon worshiper who killed hundreds of people...
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Elrath seemed to be helping Friede for some reason, but he didn't care about the Orcs.
And Godric's words were just of the "He will always be with us" kind.
 

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I don't understand, what did Elrath and Godric mean?

It seems they were referring to the time after death, when Godric and Frida would meet in the afterlife.
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And why, if Elrath so easily destroyed Laslo, didn't he kill Alaric?

One request - one sacrifice. If Elrath starts annihilating all their enemies at the slightest whim of the people, everyone will immediately rush to him with requests. The fact that Elrath killed a person is an exceptional case. He did it only because of Godric's dying wish, one of his most devoted knights. In general, the gods try not to interfere too often in the affairs of mortals.
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It seems the reference is to the time after death, when Godric and Frida will meet in the afterlife.


One request – one sacrifice. If Elrath starts annihilating all their enemies at the slightest whim of the people, everyone will immediately turn to him with requests. The fact that Elrath killed a person is an exceptional case. He did it only because of Godric's dying wish, one of his most loyal knights. In general, the gods try not to interfere too often in the affairs of mortals.
Let's assume Elrath didn't kill Alaric because he didn't want to interfere in the affairs of mortals. But why did he take all the archangels away? After all, not everyone obeyed the Red Church, and it turns out that Elrath not only didn't help those loyal to him (the murder of Laslo being an exception), but also decided to deprive them of the help of the archangels. I have a feeling that he really wanted the war to continue for as long as possible...