Mafia 54. This is where caravans are robbed! — Mafia

Победитель

13 years ago

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WishmasteR

Let's go back to our notes. We have the commander's note (let's assume it's accurate), which tells us the results of the emperor's checks on the 2nd and 3rd nights:

Menta's status - sharp, not compliant. Therefore, Spira's status - round, compliant, meaning he's a minion. Gura's status - either "sharp, compliant" or "round, not compliant," meaning he has the third, two caravans, and mafia roles left, excluding the king. 3/4, the risk is quite high.
Now, based on Spira's status, let's look at the notes from the second night:

Here, I made another assumption: that the real checker always signs with the same signature, which is rational and logical. That is, the second and third notes are accurate, which means all subsequent notes with that signature are also accurate. Let's move on, the third night:

The fourth night:

The signature is different, so we can assume that this note is for whitewashing, and the real status of Plesen is sharp, not compliant. Only one role remains - the king. If I made a mistake somewhere, please correct me.

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Now I understand why the commander killed Menta - they and the emperor decided to give us INFORMATION in a beautiful and unconventional way by comparing him with two people in the first nights).

This makes sense. Although I'm not 100% sure that the second note from the second night is accurate :). Execute Ple-Sen.

Unexpectedly, the emperor is comparing both statuses. It's unclear why the Commander killed Menta. It's unclear why there were elven mercenaries in the caravan (and the smugglers were apparently smuggling these organs of the invaders). In terms of complexity, this mafia isn't far behind the anniversary edition :).

Preliminary voting results:

Execute Gura - 2 (ortonn, Ple-Sen)
Execute Ple-Sen - 4 (Wishmaster, Nebo, Neyra Drake, Pobeditel)

7 votes are needed for execution.

Amko

13 years ago

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EvilLSanta

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Execute EvilLSanta. You can execute Plesen, I would also execute Spira.

kcfgogbfalgfl

13 years ago

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The idea of lynching Ple-Sen seems like a good one to me.

Нефела

13 years ago

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I really like the justification for executing Mold. But won't it turn out like with the execution of Ziro? On the one hand, in this situation, I really don't want to waste any more artifacts, but on the other hand, the possibility of executing the Elven King seems very tempting... So I will join the call for Mold's execution...

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WishmasteR

13 years ago

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Vish, why are you consistently ignoring the other note from the mage, which is only confirmed by the emperor's comparisons? The Mafia could have just guessed with Spiro and Tkun, just to make it look like they were investigating. And they might have gotten lucky in terms of the information being plausible.

Hmm, but this is a real weak point. The notes signed "soldier #2" could be lies, I don't deny that. But on the other hand, I'm almost certain that the notes signed "Your servant..." are true, which means that today's note "Mold obeys" is from the Mafia. I don't see any reason for the Mafia to write such a note on a Town role, when there are so many subordinate roles.
Although, I agree, the whole theory is quite shaky and adventurous, but I don't see any other options for the execution. Sorry, but there's really a lack of evidence. If Mold turns out to be a Town role (depending on what kind, of course), then things will be really difficult, but for now, we have a commander, food, a first, and even weapons, albeit dormant - so there's still a chance.

The possibility of executing the Elven King seems very tempting...

Well, the king won't be executed immediately, but at least the failed execution will cost him, and we can use that to get at least a rough idea of who to visit at night and who to avoid. By the way, if the king is really Mold, then maybe the commander should randomly hit him at night, because tomorrow he will be able to disrupt the execution again without fear.

Ple-Sen

13 years ago

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Although, I agree, the whole theory is rather shaky and adventurous, but I don't see any other options for the execution, sorry.

The commander's proposed candidate, Gur? At least there, the risk is clearly lower.

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WishmasteR

13 years ago

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The commander suggested Gura as a candidate? Surely, the risk is lower there.

I don't think it's lower: Gura's suspiciousness is just the commander's subjective opinion, and there aren't that many peaceful roles assigned to him. It's just that everything seems to fit perfectly around you.

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I'll probably write up yesterday's vote if I have time. Maybe something will become clearer, although I'm not much of a psychologist... khm...

Ple-Sen

13 years ago

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Ghur's suspiciousness is just the commander's subjective opinion, and there aren't that many peaceful roles assigned to him.

As for me, I'm being accused based on a flimsy piece of evidence, not even on the commander's opinion.

Amko

13 years ago

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Okay, there’s no choice now, let’s go with Plešnya. So that others won’t be tempted to mislead people with snails :3

Arandor

13 years ago

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I agree overall, so Plesen should be executed.
I almost missed it!

Драккошка

13 years ago

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The day is over.

Execute Ple-Sen - 9 (Amko, Winner, WishmasteR, Nefela, Neyra Drake, Gur, Arandor, Naver Leengard, Nebo).
Execute Gur - 2 (Ple-Sen, ortonnn).

Ple-Sen screamed about betrayal as he was dragged to the execution. If the emperor were alive, he would not have allowed such a misunderstanding, but alas, the old friend of Ple-Sen was killed a couple of days earlier. Ple-Sen could only console himself with the thought that he had done everything he could for the safety of the country.

Night begins, send your Night Deeds. There might be a modkill or a replacement.

Драккошка

13 years ago

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Spir has been replaced with Ment.

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Драккошка

13 years ago

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Calm

Tonight, the city was peaceful. No one killed anyone, no one attacked anyone; it was quiet and serene. It was hard to believe that Nomadland was on the verge of its demise.

WishmasteR hosted a continuation of yesterday's feast, but this time, an uninvited guest in full combat gear joined him. Gur was also invited, but he was afraid to leave his house – the company outside his door was too drunk and aggressive.

There were two notes.

A spy reported that yesterday, Neyra Drake did not leave her house.
Fourth soldier.

Zybr - does not obey
Nefela - obeys
Slept through the third night
Nebo - does not obey

They are still robbing caravans:

4. Amko
5. ortonnn
6. Pobeditel'
7. Ment
8. WishmasteR
9. Nefela
10. Neyra Drake
12. Gur
13. Arandor
16. Naver Leengard
18. Nebo

They will no longer rob caravans:

1. Zybr
2. Spear
3. Sub Zero
11. WhiteLizard
14. GoedenDag
15. Carnicero
17. Ple-Sen