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Posts from Early elections on HeroesWorldAuto-translated
The fact that he is the leader of one of the more or less significant opposition parties suggests one of two things: a) He is a puppet of the ruling regime (but the same can be said about any opposition party). b) He is an excellent actor who believes in the advice of the ancient Chinese philosopher Shen Buhai.
Let Russia kiss Europe's ass, and even the USA's!
But the clown hates them all.
Let the period from the 1920s to the 1990s be considered a misunderstanding.
You're reading my mind. Although, there is a better word than "misunderstanding" - sabotage
the most memorable period in Russia's history.
It's hard to argue with that - in less than a century, more people were killed than in all the years of the "bloody" tsarist regime. It's hard to forget!
Where do we go? Where do we end up when we save the world?
The fact that he is the leader of one of the more or less significant opposition parties suggests one of two things: a) He is a puppet of the ruling regime (but the same can be said about any opposition party). b) He is an excellent actor who follows the advice of the ancient Chinese philosopher Shen Buhai.
He gives me the impression of someone who is not a reader of philosophy, but the "Buhai" part... that is quite likely to be the answer.
Rude, uneducated, uncouth, self-contradictory... All his prestige rests on the principle of "if you want to appear smarter, shout louder than everyone else"... And in Russia, there are enough fools to last another 100 years (sarcasm). Siverfale
You're reading my mind. Although, there's a word better than "misunderstanding" - "sabotage."
Really?.. Really?.. Different regimes arose and replaced each other, and it's sabotage just because in the USSR, after what happened in Imperial Russia in the previous 20 years, communists came to power instead of democrats? Siverfale
It's hard to argue with that - in less than a century, far more people were killed than during the entire reign of the "bloody" tsarist regime over the centuries. It's hard to forget!
Should I give you the percentage ratios - how many people there were then and how many during the repressions? Maybe I should show you Europe, where despotic regimes killed just as many, with a smaller population - Paris is literally built on corpses! There is nothing unusual about this, there never was and never will be! Only, if in other countries they don't like to remember this in history, then in our country, in order to build a "democratic society," we have already violated the sacred Russian law "either speak well of the dead or say nothing" 100 times.
Different regimes arose and replaced each other, and it was only because in the USSR, after what happened in Imperial Russia in the previous 20 years, communists came to power, and not democrats – is this a sabotage?
No, not because of that. Read what is provided in the link.
Should I provide you with the percentage ratio – how many people there were then and how many during the repressions?
Provide it! I'm sure you yourself will be surprised when you see this ratio.
Maybe I should show you Europe, where despotic regimes killed no less, with a smaller population – Paris is literally built on corpses!
Especially revolutionary regimes.
There is nothing unusual about this, there was, is, and will be nothing unusual!
I agree, there has always been, is, and will be a lot of scum in our country.
you have already violated the sacred Russian law "either speak well of the dead or say nothing"...
There is a saying – "He who remembers the past loses an eye," but not everyone knows that its ending is "...and he who forgets loses both."
Where do we go? Where do we end up when we save the world?
Alex Ghost, are you also a supporter of Zyuganov? And what do you have against my wishes? Who are you, anyway? You just showed up here.
Oh, and now I'll put everyone where they belong.
Hahaha, it's just pathetic. Another failed KGB agent. You'll be the first one Zyuganov puts in jail.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения! И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день
Really?.. Really?.. Different regimes emerged and replaced each other, and it was only because, after what happened in Imperial Russia in the previous 20 years, communists came to power in the USSR, not democrats – is that a sabotage?
The previous twenty years in the Russian Empire were among the best years in the entire history of Russia. The political system that developed after 1905 and the political system at that time only inspire admiration in me. Just think: in the early years of the Duma, there was a shortage of officials in Russia! There was a shortage of officials; their number was noticeably less than considered necessary for the normal functioning of parliament. And then... The mood turned bad, and revolutionaries (both communists and democrats, they all tried) destroyed the country. They arranged a massacre for the sake of high ideals. As they say, they wanted the best, but it turned out as always.
They staged a massacre in the name of lofty ideals.
They didn't have any "lofty ideals." It was just another group that wanted to gain power and control, masking their intentions with talk of a "bright future."
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения! И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день
Yeah... However, people are never satisfied, and if Zhirinovsky comes to power, with such transparency in government affairs, the ruling parties will change regularly – the USA is a prime example of this. It's a wonder that United Russia is still in power, although they are also facing obstacles...Siverfale
No, not for that reason. Read what is provided in the link.
I once read that the offensive on Moscow failed because "the Wehrmacht urgently sent ONE-THIRD of its army from the Eastern Front to prevent defeat in Africa... No one before me has corrected this nonsense... So who knows what else our "liberals" will write..."Siverfale
Provide it! I'm sure you'll be surprised when you see this ratio.
at the end of the 16th century, 5 million... 181,537,800 people [4] (1916) Calculate it yourself...Siverfale
Especially revolutionary regimes.
When have you seen a bloodless revolution? Now, in Libya, there is a clear example – the revolutionaries are no better than butchers, and yet they are doing this with the tacit blessing of NATO...Siverfale
I agree with that, there have always been, are, and will be plenty of scoundrels in our country.
But why pander to the "liberals" and say that now we are all good and kind, and in the USSR all the rulers were scoundrels...Siverfale
There is a saying – "He who remembers the past will lose an eye, but he who forgets it will lose both," but not everyone knows that.
And they are actively speculating on this, that "we have changed, and what happened before was a misunderstanding"... Excuse me, but with such a development of world history, the worst is yet to come – remember my words – they will still pray for the bright Soviet regime)Lord Mortulus
And what do you have against my desires in general? Who are you anyway? You just showed up here.
Nothing – wish away) Just don't forget that wishing is one thing, and doing is another... Who I am is irrelevant, but I'll introduce myself to you. Alexey, nice to meet you, comrade, or whatever you are... a boor?)Lord Mortulus
Hahaha, it's just disgusting. Another failed KGB agent. You'll be the first to be arrested under Zyuganov.
Good thing it's not coming out of your mouth) You should spray some air freshener or brush your teeth)<
The ruling parties will change regularly - the USA is a prime example of this.
If Russia ever develops a political situation similar to that of the United States (in the form of two ruling parties), it would be an incredibly wonderful development. Each party would try to prove its usefulness and do as much good as possible to avoid being ousted. And not like now - United Russia does whatever it wants, and the people meekly moo in their stable.
So, who knows what our "liberals" will write next...
There is a set of links at the bottom - sources of information. You can familiarize yourself with them. By the way, do you always react this way to any information that contradicts your position?
at the end of the 16th century, 5 million... 181,537,800 people [4] (1916) Do the math yourself...
You write that "liberals" can write anything and then you copy and paste links from Wikipedia. Double standards, sir. By the way, I still don't understand what this set of numbers means, so please be clearer.
But why pander to the "liberals" and say that now we are all bright, white, and fluffy, and in the USSR all the rulers were scoundrels...
Just because things are bad now doesn't mean that everything was good in the USSR.
I'm sorry, but with such a development of world history, the worst is yet to come - mark my words - they will soon be praying for the glorious Soviet regime.
Come on, if the popularity of United Russia continues to decline, the worst - namely a return to Soviet times - has already passed us by.
Where do we go? Where do we end up when we save the world?
And then... things started to go downhill, and the revolutionaries (both communists and democrats, they all tried their best) ruined the country. They staged a massacre in the name of lofty ideals. As they say, they wanted the best, but it turned out as always.
If they had wanted to, they wouldn't have ruined anything – the real problem was the inaction of the authorities, their incompetence – the collapse of the USSR proved this once again...Ment
It's clear that they were just covering up. But people believed them.
And we still believe them now – they promise one thing to your face, lie to your face, and then do nothing... But people fall for it... This is politics, gentlemen.
The previous twenty years in the Russian Empire were some of the best years in the entire history of Russia. The political system that emerged after 1905 and the political system at that time only inspires admiration in me. Just think: in the early years of the Duma's existence, there was a shortage of officials in Russia! There was a shortage of officials; their number was noticeably less than considered necessary for the normal functioning of parliament. And then... the mood turned bad, and revolutionaries (both communists and democrats, they all tried) destroyed the country. They arranged a massacre for the sake of high ideals. As they say, they wanted the best, but it turned out as always.
You also forgot about the real capitalists who developed industry and had genuinely Russian surnames, like Konovalov. Yes, if it weren't for World War I and the revolution, everything could have gone well.
Where do we go? Where do we end up when we save the world?
If Russia ever develops a political system similar to that of the United States (with two ruling parties), it would be an incredibly positive development. Each party would strive to prove its worth and do as much good as possible to maintain its position, rather than the current situation where United Russia does whatever it pleases, and the people meekly comply.
God forbid we end up with such a system, such a parliament, and such debts – China is making rapid progress, and the United States is on the verge of default... All they can do is orchestrate small oil-rich revolutions in Africa and Asia. God forbid we become like that. Siverfale
Below is a set of links – sources of information. You can familiarize yourself with them. By the way, do you treat all information that contradicts your position in the same way?
Have you read them all? Be honest. Not all of them – only the non-constructive ones... In the end, there are countless opinions and countless results – the main thing is how they are interpreted – whether one thinks or not. Siverfale
You say that "liberals" can write anything, and yet you yourself copy and paste links from Wikipedia. You have double standards, sir. By the way, I still don't understand what this set of numbers means, so please be clearer.
I haven't copied anything yet – I'm talking about what makes logical sense and what doesn't... You clearly don't understand the point, sir. Your politeness is on the level of hypocrisy, Siver. The set of numbers is the population... When we talk about repression, we consider the percentage of people who were killed...Siverfale
Just because things are bad now doesn't mean that everything was good in the USSR.
No one is saying that everything was so good there, but knowing something about it makes it a little easier to envision what is best for the world when looking to the future...Siverfale
Come on, if United Russia's popularity continues to decline, the worst-case scenario – namely, a return to the Soviet era – has already passed us by.
Of course, it has passed – people were given so much freedom all at once, and only now, 20 years later, are they trying to instill a sense of responsibility along with these freedoms, which is not yet working for everyone. So, in the future, democratic socialism seems to be the way to go – it's clear that people will definitely protest against the deprivation of freedoms, and it's potentially impossible to give them new ones now!
God forbid we have such a system, such a parliament, and such debts again – China is making breakthroughs, the USA is on the verge of default... So, they are left to stage small oil-rich revolutions in Africa and Asia.
Not much worse than selling oil, gas, timber, diamonds, etc., without any processing, practically without any benefit for the state, although the resources are the property of the entire nation, and in addition, allowing radioactive waste to be buried on our land in order to earn at least some money. These are the benefits that one-party rule has brought us.
Did you read them all? Be honest.
I read one historian whose judgments are trustworthy (because he describes events extremely impartially, provides links to publicly available sources, and those sources are reliable), and he writes that the fact that the Bolsheviks were brought in on the orders of German intelligence agencies is beyond doubt.
A set of numbers – population.
Okay. 5 million – that's the number of people killed. 181 million – that's the number of people living. Total – 2.5%. Under Stalin, however, the number of people subjected to repression was:
As a result, the estimates range from 3.8 million to 9.8 million “political” prisoners and up to tens of millions, including those who were punished under criminal articles.
If I misunderstood something, then you definitely need to express your thoughts more clearly.
No one is saying that everything was so good there, but knowing something about it makes it a little easier to imagine what is better for the world...
But Lordesat, for example, believes that capitalism is better for the future.
and they should not be given any new ones!..
That's right! We also need to take away the old ones. Otherwise, they will become too brazen – they tell the tsar-father how to rule the country. Let them go back to the stable, that's where they belong!
Where do we go? Where do we end up when we save the world?
Freedom? In this country? Is it when the police beat journalists and you can only start a normal business if you have connections at the top? Freedom and democracy are not about calling the great Putin a swindler and thief on the internet and throwing feces at the United Russia party; it's something else entirely.
Alex Ghost
