Heroic International – A Manifesto — Inter-Clan Section — Page 6

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#1 10/7/2006 3:39 AM UTC

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After the intensified clan building on our portal, some negative aspects of these actions became apparent. We started arguing with each other, quarreling, and getting offended. Clan affiliation is replacing personal friendship. Therefore, I propose creating an extra-clan, informal association based on the principles of honor and friendship. The Manifesto of the Heroic International 1 - The Heroic International (HI) is an extra-clan association of portal users. 2 - HI is an unofficial association that does not aim to create another clan. 3 - HI is not built on a clan, racial, or any other differentiating basis, but exclusively on the principle of personal friendship and mutual respect. 4 - The main goal of HI is to maintain good relations between all users and resolve any conflicts between them. 5 - To join HI, you do not need to leave your clan, you do not need to renounce its charter, slogans, and so on. All that is needed is a conscious decision from any user. 6 - The only condition for HI members is honesty towards each other, mutual respect, and a desire to resolve all issues peacefully. 7 - If HI members play against each other, fulfilling their obligations to the clan, they should not turn the duel into a battle, but treat it as a friendly game. 8 - All those who join HI and sign this manifesto undertake additional moral and ethical obligations, expressed in tolerance and respect for everyone, even those not in HI. 9 - As punitive sanctions, HI uses the Wall of Shame, where users will be placed for violating the portal rules, with an indication of the reason. 10 - If a user constantly ignores notifications from HI (on the Wall of Shame), HI has the right to contact the coordinator or Creator with a request to apply sanctions to that user. 11 - The manifesto will be supplemented as proposals from HI members are received. HEROES of all races and alignments - join us!!! Now we have become WE. Now we are united: 1) Sergh 2) ***JOKER*** 3) Xaker 4) Ann 5) Eric Wynn 6) AlexeyPank 7) Ta kotoraya... 8) Night 9) Леля 10) Nowizard 11) nprf 12) Prorock 13) GvozD 14) СТРАННиК 15) M@dM@ster 16) RAPER 17) natasha 18) VDV_forever 19) Inquisitor 20) Джомалунга 21) Tengro 22) Аделаида 23) †Smok† 24) Смок 25) Александр Г.К. 26) Darth Saruman 27) S@ndro 28) Saruman 29) Predvestnik 30) R@zer 31) Varg-Nar 32) Atalasa 33) Alex_R 34) vbn 35) Маэлгрим 36) ewgeniy 37) АЛУКАРД 38) SandroXXL 39) vuzzza 40) XEL 41) Starhan 42) eXeCuToR 43) Dark_Knight 44) General ZeT 45) Brackman 46) Cheri@ 47) Дубровин Павел 48) Light God 49) loi 50) _Prizrak_ 51) shaddar 52) Mefisto 53) DarkMind 54) NIGHT_HUNTER 55) Vayshan 56) COLORADO 57) OUTLAW 58) T@mar@ 59) Leolopus 60) Kitty 61) Белый Волк 62) Denminator 63) Cr@zy Wolf 64) Malificus 65) DemonWarrior 66) Vip.rus 67) Малый 68) Mutare Drake

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Registered: 10/18/2006

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#78 11/9/2006 12:51 PM UTC

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AlexeyPank;44836

What other suggestions do you have for improving the effectiveness of the Community? I only have one: to act as a united front against insults, rudeness, and the like. But this requires coordination of efforts. Who can take on this difficult task?

What does coordination of efforts mean? Finding inappropriate behavior and informing other Community members about it?

Registered: 6/7/2006

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#79 11/9/2006 6:20 PM UTC

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Something like that. Plus, we need to make sure that most members of the Guild participate in forum activities. Maybe we should send out a newsletter. We need to make sure that it's not just 2-3 members of the Guild who are discussing everything, but everyone. Because right now, that's exactly the situation – we don't have unity among ourselves. How can we then unite the entire forum?

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#80 11/14/2006 6:31 PM UTC

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I have an idea on how to make the Game Inspectors (GI) more effective. Perhaps we should hold a regular tournament, similar to "Knights of Honor." When submitting applications for the tournament, the GI could reject applications from users who have a history of being rude or cheating. This way, the GI could encourage better behavior in order to participate in the tournament. However, when rejecting an application, a clear justification is needed to avoid accusations of bias.

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#81 11/14/2006 9:05 PM UTC

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Adelaide;44731

What does ingratitude towards benefactors have to do with it! If your participation in the tournament depends solely on the availability of a prize fund, then I'm afraid I'll be banned for my further comments.
If you need money, go and work! Heroes should be played for the idea.
P.S. Equating heroes to gambling is such nonsense!

Regarding the Guild of Heroes, I think we should create a separate thread for links to instances of inappropriate behavior. And discuss conflicts in this thread, all together (not just one representative from the Guild of Heroes).

A tournament is, first and foremost, a competition. If you play just for the sake of playing, then it's no longer a tournament, it's just a pastime, nothing more.
The whole question is whether you are personally ready to fight for something or not. Those who are ready participate in tournaments that have significant entry fees and, naturally, a prize fund.
Heroes is no longer just a game - for many, it's a serious sport!
Comparing sports to gambling... This is not a casino; everything depends on skills!
It's time to finally get rid of the Soviet mentality and the stereotype that everyone should only earn money at a factory, and sports are just a hobby.

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Registered: 12/24/2005

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#82 11/14/2006 11:53 PM UTC

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Adelaide;44731

What does ingratitude towards benefactors have to do with it! If your participation in the tournament depends only on the prize pool, then I'm afraid I'll be banned for my further comments.
If you need money, go and work! Heroes should be played for the idea.
P.S. Equating heroes to gambling is such nonsense!

Regarding the Guild of Integrity, I think we should create a separate thread for links to instances of inappropriate behavior. And discuss conflicts in this thread, all together (not just one representative from the Guild).

I don't understand one thing. Preda was immediately accused of cheating after winning 3 offline tournaments. And for what?!

Why was such an accusation made so easily and by whom?!

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AlexeyPank;46254

I have an idea on how to make the Guild of Integrity more effective. Perhaps we should hold a regular tournament, like "Knights of Honor". When submitting applications for the tournament, the Guild of Integrity could reject applications from users who have proven to be rude or cheaters. In this way, the Guild of Integrity could force people to behave more decently in order to participate in the tournament. But when rejecting an application, a clear justification is needed to avoid accusations of bias.

Interesting! Well, let's say I know players here who have been caught cheating on another site. But here they are registered under different nicknames! And then what?! It's not serious. It's a different matter to ban people for promoting cheating, not just for cheating!

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AlexeyPank;44836

What other suggestions are there for improving the effectiveness of the Guild of Integrity? I only have one - to act as a united front against insults, rudeness, and the like. But this requires coordination of efforts. Who can take on this difficult task?

We need to personally invite people to the Guild of Integrity who truly have authority! And authority not only here on HeroesWorld!!!
Such as, for example, Armagedda, Bars, Horn, LaBoule. Moreover, many of the problems that we have, they have already gone through.
I think their opinion would be listened to much more quickly than the entire Guild of Integrity in its current form.

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Registered: 12/26/2005

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#83 11/15/2006 3:44 AM UTC

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Adelaide;44731

What does ingratitude towards benefactors have to do with it! If your participation in the Tournaments depends only on the availability of a prize fund, then I'm afraid I'll be banned for my further comments.
If you need money, go and work! Heroes should be played for the idea.
P.S. Equating heroes to gambling is such nonsense!

Regarding the Guild of Heroes, I think we should create a separate thread for links to instances of incorrect behavior. And discuss conflicts in this thread, all together (not just one representative from the Guild of Heroes).

If the question is directed to me, I will answer. For me, the most important thing is who I play with!!! It turns out that when there are Tournaments with prizes, much more people come than if they just play for fun. The times when people played for the sake of the title of champion of something are long gone.
But, I'll say more, there are people with whom I wouldn't even play for money!
What to play and how is a personal matter for everyone. Russia is a free country!!!
Those who can't play, can't play. Envy is understandable.

Registered: 3/20/2006

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#84 11/15/2006 7:33 AM UTC

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If the AI tries to dictate to me who to include and who not to include in the Heroes II tournament, I will simply laugh in response. I don't care if someone is rude or not; everyone is equal in the tournament.

Орден Феникса – харизматический :) лидер

Registered: 6/7/2006

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#85 11/16/2006 9:03 AM UTC

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Let it be, who to accept and who not. Here, I want to propose a specific tournament idea. A tournament named after Van Canningham, under the auspices of the GI. It is held every year, throughout the year. The tournament consists of two rounds, each with five stages. The stages are different versions of the game (1-5). The first round is the "sword" round (magic is limited), and the second is the "magic" round (magic plays a more significant role). One stage is held each month, with two months for preparation for the next stage and for reviewing the results. At the end of each tournament, the final standings are posted.

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Registered: 4/14/2006

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#86 11/16/2006 9:06 AM UTC

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I understand the circles, but what is the point of the stages?

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Registered: 3/20/2006

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#87 11/16/2006 9:42 AM UTC

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The idea is good, but it's unclear what will happen with the versions. For Heroes 3, there are three versions: SoD classic, TE, and WoG. And what then? Half the people insist on playing only TE, and the other half play SoD (by the way, Van Cunningham created this version). Everything is clear with Heroes 2 and 1.

Орден Феникса – харизматический :) лидер

Registered: 2/7/2006

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#88 11/16/2006 2:43 PM UTC

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I’m always in!

Добро- Не цель, а средство, Зло- Дорога к цели...
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#89 11/16/2006 5:38 PM UTC

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I suggest we follow a classic approach, without any amateur additions. That is, the first stage will be Heroes 1, the second - Heroes 2, the third - Heroes 3 SoD, the fourth - Heroes 4 Warlords of the Wastelands (or any other of the three official expansions), and the fifth - Heroes 5 (I think, with the expansion). This way, we'll see the results of each player across all versions, and separately as a Mage and separately as a Warrior. There will be a regular league. I believe no one has done this before, and our portal will be ahead of the rest. I kindly request moderators and tournament organizers to share their opinions.

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Registered: 12/24/2005

Posts: 216

#90 11/16/2006 9:53 PM UTC

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Qwerty;46326

If the GM tries to dictate to me who to include and who not to include in the Heroes II tournament, I will simply laugh in response. I don't care if someone is rude or not; everyone is equal in the tournament.

In essence, that's how it should be. In tournaments, everyone should be equal: download the save, play, and that's it!!! And the GM definitely shouldn't be involved in this.
But why such a tone?! Why immediately "I don't care"!

Registered: 3/20/2006

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#91 11/17/2006 8:05 AM UTC

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2 AlexeyPank - I definitely support this. When the time comes, I will organize a special tournament for the second installment of Heroes of Might and Magic as part of this competition. 2 nprf - I'm speaking in this tone because I won't tolerate any discrimination against participants in the section dedicated to the second installment of Heroes of Might and Magic based on any criteria other than the use of cheat codes in tournaments.

Орден Феникса – харизматический :) лидер

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#92 11/18/2006 5:21 AM UTC

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Then, preparation for such a tournament should begin now so that it can start no later than February. There is a lot of work ahead. We need to select maps for all versions, clearly define the organizers, and there are many other issues to resolve.

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