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I'm sorry, but Galsworthy is just not my cup of tea! He seems so lifeless (and don't tell me it's just English pedantry – I love many English writers).

Regarding Dostoevsky, Tanya, I just can't agree – it's not darkness, it's life. Just imagine releasing someone like Myshkin or Alyosha Karamazov onto the streets – honestly, what good could await them? "He'll die, the fool will perish!"
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Well, that's just my gloomy perception of Dostoevsky; what can I do? I don't see any color palette in him at all. Everything is in black. Does he have any? Maybe something is wrong with me:smile32:

And I really like Galsworthy for his restraint. "The Saga," "The Island Pharisees," "The Way of the World," those are probably all I've read. I like his calmness, his measured pace. Even (oh, the horror!) the lack of passions, both external and internal. He is immersed in thought. And his reflections are devoid of emotions. But they are not dead. He reveals the inner feelings of his characters, their mood through descriptions of nature. That's where life awakens! In my opinion, he is a very atmospheric author, and it's an interesting era in general.

Ah, classics are inexhaustible after all:)
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Pandora
Well, that's just my gloomy perception of Dostoevsky, what can I do? I don't see any color palette in him at all. Everything is in black. Does he have any? Maybe something is wrong with me:smile32:
Of course, he does! He has all the colors of the rainbow. I was discussing Murakami with a friend the other day, and I said, "Dostoevsky has neither black nor white - each character has a whole rainbow. And Murakami has neither black nor white, just a solid gray color in everything."

But, Tanya, if he doesn't suit you, then arguing is pointless - it's like trying to convince a friend that your girlfriend is the most beautiful in the world. Even the most wonderful writer may not "click" with your soul, like a key that doesn't fit a lock. We are all different, and our sense of beauty is different, and the language that writers/artists/musicians should use to speak to us so that we like them is also different for everyone.

I'm such a pacifist, give me a chocolate bar.:smile09:
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I'm also a pacifist who shared my perspective:smile04: and was interested to read the opinions of others. That's all. I hope to start reading "The Brothers Karamazov" in the next few days; who knows, maybe I'll join the ranks of the fans.
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You’ll laugh, but just the other day I met a Spaniard because we both love Dostoevsky. :D It’s just amazing! And of course, in the West, they still know Dostoevsky and Tolstoy, just like before.
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And they don't know Pushkin. :( But still, thank you for
Dostoevsky and Tolstoy
Ha-ha, did that Spaniard happen to read "Diary of a Writer"? Because there's a lot of good things written about Pushkin in it.
 

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I didn't ask about "Diary...", but you wouldn't believe how much time we spent trying to translate "Humillados y hundidos" into English! :D
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not worthy of evaluating Dostoevsky
an interesting remark, it's a shame it didn't work in literature classes :D

Chekhov is probably also well-known. And in general, they've heard of Russian drama. They stage it and make films based on it.
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Sometimes it's good, and sometimes, like with the recent "Onegin," it would have been better if they had just told the story in a simple, expressive way...
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I can't seem to recall anything specific that I liked. But I'll give them a plus for at least trying. They aimed... for William, our Shakespeare:D P.S. Speaking of acting, I really liked the last Pierre Bezukhov, played by a German actor. He was very good. Not worse than Bondarchuk.
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One of my all-time favorite literary works: "Crime and Punishment" – I've read it at least three times and watched some scary black-and-white Soviet film adaptation with an unknown cast, but overall, the atmosphere and essence were conveyed at a 4+:rolleyes:. I've only seen "The Idiot" as a new TV series (it was decent), and I've watched bits and pieces of an adaptation of "The Brothers Karamazov" – but because I watched it in fragments, I didn't really understand it, and I just haven't gotten around to reading it:smile30:. What's so appealing about "Crime and Punishment" is the absolute, near-perfect symbiosis of action and idea! I haven't encountered anything like it anywhere else (strangely enough, in my opinion, the closest to this incredible blend are not other classics like Tolstoy, but the Strugatsky brothers, but their work is somehow a bit rougher)... Nabokov, despite being talented, called Fyodor Mikhailovich the author of cheap detective stories (I don't remember the exact quote) – I've never heard anything more absurd:) .
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
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As for the movies, I watched the new "Idiot" and "The Brothers Karamazov." I liked the first one, but not the second one so much. The director cut out too much from the narrative; some important plot lines are completely missing, and those that are included are shortened and incomplete. "The Idiot," in my opinion, was filmed much closer to the original text.
 

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KostyaN
Nabokov, though talented, was envious and, at one time, called Fyodor Mikhailovich the author of cheap detective stories (I don't remember the exact quote) - I've never heard anything more absurd in my life.
Oh, that scandalous Nabokov... he was trying to gain publicity at the expense of Dostoevsky! :D And, as someone already mentioned, there's a reason why such criticism exists.

Ah, here it is:
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While Tolstoy could afford to spend many years writing novels, Dostoevsky was forced to write novels in a year. Undeniable talent is present, but there's also a sense of being cornered and despair.
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KostyaN
I haven't encountered anything like this before (strangely enough, in my opinion, the closest to this incredible blend are not other classics like Tolstoy, but the Strugatsky brothers, but they are somehow coarser)...

I disagree, the Strugatsky brothers are not coarser, but rather more direct. Dostoevsky gently guides you and suggests you stop and think - the Strugatsky brothers hit you where it hurts, so you gasp for air and stare in shock. But they are geniuses, of course.
KostyaN
The envious, albeit talented, Nabokov, in his time, called Fyodor Mikhailovich the author of cheap detective stories (I don't remember the exact quote) - I've never heard anything more absurd in my life.

Only Nabokov would dare to judge! He, by the way, has remarkably poor content despite his amazing style - he knows how to speak and loves to, he speaks luxuriously, figuratively, expressively - but he doesn't really have anything to say.

I enjoy reading him, but he doesn't offer any food for thought. And, by the way, this isn't just my opinion; many critics and writers feel the same way.

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Pandora
Oh, this scandalous Nabokov... he gained publicity at the expense of Dostoevsky!:D And, in fact, someone here already mentioned where this kind of criticism comes from.

If Nabokov had experienced even a tenth of the horrors that Dostoevsky endured, perhaps his novels would be filled with substance.

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"The Idiot," as I see it, is filmed much closer to the text.

So "close to the text" that it's nauseating. I realized with this series that adaptations should be compositions based on the book, not just retellings. Essentially, it's a smooth, polished summary - but why do I need it if I've already read the book twenty times?

Where is the director's own interpretation of the idea? Did he have his own thoughts about the book? Where are they?
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So "close to the text" that it's sickening. I realized with this series that an adaptation should be a composition based on the book, not a retelling. Essentially, this is a smooth, polished summary – but why do I need it if I've already read the book twenty times?

Where is the director's own interpretation of the idea? Did he have his own thoughts about the book? Where are they?
There is a valid point here, but the usual problem with films is that they omit too much, not that they add their own interpretations. The narrative becomes incomplete.
 

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