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To be honest, the vast majority of "olol-atheists" are no less... a perfectly fair justification.
Well, this only applies to staunch atheists, those who don't allow for the possibility that they might be wrong. Those who always use the primitiveness of the opponent's views as their main argument in a dispute. In short, just fools. And unfortunately, there are many fools everywhere. Vayshan
Agnosticism seems closer to me, but I wouldn't say I'm in doubt. Rather, I simply allow for the possibility of the existence of a god, and that's it. I don't need anything from him, I live my life and live according to my moral principles, and I don't bother with any organized religion. And besides, I don't see the point in fiercely believing in a god or fiercely denying him; neither atheists nor believers have any arguments to support their point of view, and besides, we will all be there in due time and find out.
There is a downside to this. Without a more or less clear ideology, a person cannot clearly know how to act in a given situation. For example, when atheists need to make an important decision, they say that it is logical. Christians are guided by what God commanded (well, and logic, of course, too :D). But how do agnostics explain their choice? It seems to me that this is not an easy task, which in some cases can lead to a mistake that could have been avoided with a clear ideology.
What ideology do they have there? A Christian will do as the book tells him, but I doubt that if he finds 500 rubles, he will take them to the temple for the needs of the suffering, for example. An atheist will try to distance himself from any morality and do everything against the grain. An agnostic has neither of these dependencies and will do as he sees fit. But in general, they are almost the same; everyone does everything for their own benefit.
Tomorrow holds no promises Except the ones we've made
An atheist, however, doesn't end any discussion with the phrase "so God commanded!", an atheist only touches upon faith, although they can be annoying too.
A religious person doesn't either. But in a conversation about faith, both present "so God commanded!/there is no God!" as both the starting and the final argument.
Neither atheists nor believers have any arguments confirming their point of view.
Atheists have arguments, refuting another point of view :)
Well, this applies only to zealous atheists, those who do not allow for the possibility that they might be wrong.
It seems to me that any atheist a priori does not allow for the possibility that they might be wrong, because if that were the case, they wouldn't be called an atheist. The same is true for believers. Are they all fools? Perhaps, I don't even mind that thought.
Without a more or less clear ideology, a person cannot clearly know how to act in a given situation.
I disagree with that. Unless, of course, you provide some kind of real-life example.
It seems to me that any atheist a priori does not allow for the possibility that they might be wrong, because if that were the case, they wouldn't be called an atheist. The same is true for believers. Are they all fools? Perhaps, I even find this thought appealing.
I didn't quite express myself correctly. Of course, everyone thinks they are right. But in an argument, intelligent people try to abstract themselves from their own rightness as much as possible and speak as objectively as possible.
Morning
I disagree with that. Unless, of course, you can provide some real-life example.
I wouldn't want to say something sad. Let's just say that this problem affected one of my very good friends.
There's a downside to this. Without a more or less clear ideology, a person cannot clearly know how to act in a given situation. For example, atheists, when they need to make an important decision, say that it is logical. Christians are guided by what God commanded (and, of course, logic too :D). But how do agnostics explain their choice? It seems to me that this is not an easy task, which in some cases can lead to a mistake that could have been avoided with a clear ideology.
I don't think that when deciding "how to act," a person is guided by their religious views; I think it's simply a matter of upbringing and the moral principles that a person develops before the age of 18. For example, even the most ardent atheist might give up their seat on a bus if someone clearly needs it more, guided by the moral principle that "it's the right thing to do," and not by any religion. Or, some boor, who also doesn't believe in God, wouldn't even think of giving up his seat; that's just how he was raised. And if some religious person thinks, "Now I'll give up my seat, do a good deed, and I'll be taken to heaven," then that's just hypocrisy and nothing more.
Morning
Atheists have arguments refuting other people's point of view.
No atheist can explain, for example, where life on Earth came from, because even science doesn't know. And in general, just because you don't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. No one sees ultraviolet radiation, but it exists; it can be detected with instruments. We can also assume that we simply cannot detect the existence of God with anything yet due to the insufficient development of technology.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.
God save us everyone Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
In general, just because you don't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. No one sees ultraviolet radiation either, but it exists, and it can be detected with instruments. Similarly, we can assume that we simply cannot detect the existence of God with anything yet due to the insufficient development of technology.
I actually gave a similar example myself in this thread earlier. But only one person can believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, while millions believe in God, which is statistics, not a single case. Or someone epically deceived everyone, making them believe in some mythical uber-humanoid who created EVERYTHING.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.
God save us everyone Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
No atheist can explain, for example, where life on Earth came from, because even science doesn't know.
I agree. The emergence of living organisms from non-living matter contradicts the second law of thermodynamics. In a closed system, entropy should only increase. Simple and homogeneous substances cannot suddenly form complex biological molecules and cells. But I also honestly don't understand why the Bible lists the genealogy of Christ all the way back to Adam. It seems that humanity has only lived on Earth for 2010+ years...
Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!
I agree. The emergence of living organisms from non-living matter contradicts the second law of thermodynamics. In a closed system, entropy should only increase. Complex biological molecules and cells cannot suddenly form from simple and homogeneous substances. But I also honestly don't understand why the Bible lists the genealogy of Christ all the way back to Adam. It turns out that humanity has only lived on Earth for 2010+ years...
The Bible was written by people, and over many centuries. This is definitely not something you should trust.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.
God save us everyone Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
Creationism (from the English word "creation") is a religious and philosophical concept that views all the diversity of the organic world, humanity, the planet Earth, and the universe as a whole as intentionally created by a supreme being or deity. The theory of creationism, by referring the answer to the question of the origin of life to religion (the creation of life by God), falls outside the scope of scientific research according to Popper's criterion (since it is unfalsifiable: scientific methods cannot prove either that God did not create life or that God did create it). Furthermore, this theory does not provide a satisfactory answer to the question of the causes of the origin and existence of the supreme being itself, usually simply postulating its eternity.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения! И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день
Only one person can believe in the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, while millions believe in God, which is already a statistic, not a single case.
Not very convincing. Other millions believe in the power of zirconium bracelets, in the existence of dietary supplements that cure all diseases, in the fact that they will live long and happily, in the apocalypse from BAK, and in the year 2012.
Not very convincing. Other millions believe in the power of zirconium bracelets, in the existence of dietary supplements that cure all diseases, in the fact that they will live long and happily, in the apocalypse from BAK, and in 2012.
The fact that bracelets and dietary supplements have no effect can be easily proven by science, but the elderly, who make up the main consumer audience, due to their ignorance, are still willing to give everything they have just to stay in this world for as long as possible. But the existence or non-existence of God cannot be proven by anything.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.
God save us everyone Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
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