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WhiteLizard
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I know, Elsie, that’s why all our desks are covered in messages like “don’t join the Dungeon faction.” Plus, they draw some kind of monstrous, toothy creatures next to it. And our composition teacher says that if they draw monsters and war scenes, it means the person can’t handle the workload. So, we quickly figured it out and started bringing in sketches with tanks as a group))
Arches aren’t bad!
It’s something like that.
Ment
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Lizard, keep it up! By the way, I can somewhat formulate a hypothesis (not my own, I heard it from Keku in the "scientific non-fiction" program; there are many interesting, although unproven, ideas there) that explains movement at superluminal speed. If we take General Relativity (Einstein's, yes, yes, his! So there are no contradictions!), then gravity "distorts" the surrounding space. If we take our spaceship, place a huge mass on its nose, and a huge negative mass on its tail, then the spaceship will create two folds. The front one will shorten the distance from it to the destination point, and the rear one will perform the opposite function. Something like that. Wiki
leads to causal paradoxes (such as, for example, an observer sending a signal to their own past).
I did find an error in Wiki. Our professor clearly proved that there is no such paradox in Special Relativity, because by the time the signal reaches its destination, the event will already have happened. Here.
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If your address were "Voronezh," I would definitely say that I know you.
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However, modern science adheres to his old theory, doesn't it? And he didn't "say" it, but scientifically substantiated his theory, if you want to get technical.
Einstein became famous for breaking stereotypes. I'm sure he wouldn't want to create new ones. The theory works as long as we can ignore the error it gives in the case of experimental verification.
I finally found an error in the Wiki. Our professor clearly proved that there is no such paradox in Special Relativity, because by the time the signal reaches its destination, the event has already occurred. Here.
Just today, the electronics professor spoke very dismissively about Wikipedia, saying that it contains a lot of outright nonsense, and he is not the only specialist in any field who holds the same opinion.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.
God save us everyone Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
WhiteLizard
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However, modern science adheres to his old theory for some reason, doesn't it? And he didn't "say" it; he scientifically substantiated his theory, if you want to be precise.
There must be some official basis, just like with classical mechanics. Enshi couldn't know everything. Human scientific knowledge about the world at the moment is not accurate and complete. Who knows what other skeletons will surface in the still waters of the STO. Besides, I already said that the existence of exotic matter has already been experimentally proven, so it's not such heresy. But the possibility of a warp bubble really makes you think. But I think there is a way out. And what can you say about the expansion of the universe? After a certain point, it begins to expand at superluminal speed. And this, by the way, is within the framework of General Relativity. Proof.
Elcidere
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I've heard that a proton and an antiproton, strangely enough, release a significant amount of energy during annihilation. You get what you pay for. Actually, it was an electron and a positron.
Когда я умер, небыло никого, кто бы это опроверг клан "Vampires" P.S. ...но против креста Я не пойду никогда...
WhiteLizard
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The front one will reduce the distance between it and the destination point, and the rear one will perform the opposite function. Something like that.
So, the space narrows in front of the spaceship, and expands behind it? Then it turns out that the space itself is moving, not the spaceship. This is exactly the system in Star Trek.
What can you say about the expansion of the universe? After a certain point, it starts to expand at superluminal speed. And this, by the way, is within the framework of General Relativity.
I didn't quite understand. I think what is meant is that in our frame of reference, two distant galaxies are moving away from each other at superluminal speed. But it is not necessarily the case in their frame of reference. WhiteLizard
So, the space in front of the starship is shrinking, and the space behind it is expanding? Then it turns out that the space itself is moving, and not the starship) such a system is in Star Trek.
It seems like it. But it's better to watch the show, it's on Discovery Science.
I don't quite understand. I think the idea is that in our frame of reference, two distant galaxies are moving away from each other at a faster-than-light speed. But it doesn't necessarily have to be the case in their frame of reference.
I've heard somewhere that this property applies to the expansion of the universe, which represents a collection of receding galaxies... although I can't vouch for the plausibility of the theory.
There must be some official basis, just like with the classic mechanics. Enshe couldn't have known EVERYTHING. The current scientific knowledge of the world is not accurate and complete. Who knows what other secrets will surface in the depths of the STO. Besides, I already said that the existence of exotic matter has already been experimentally proven, so it's not such heresy. But the possibility of a warp bubble really makes you think. But I think there is a way out. And what can you say about the expansion of the universe? After a certain point, it begins to expand at superluminal speed. And this, by the way, is within the framework of General Relativity. Proof.
Einstein certainly couldn't know everything, but subsequent generations of physicists could have expanded the theory. From one of the proof links from the same Wikipedia, I found:
Even professionals (physicists, astronomers) often answer the question: "Can we observe a galaxy that is receding from us faster than the speed of light both at the moment it emits light and at the moment its signal is received on Earth?" - "Of course not!" Intuition based on special relativity (SR) kicks in, which one cosmologist aptly called "the shadows of SR." However, this answer is incorrect. It turns out that it is possible. In any cosmological model, the recession velocity increases linearly with distance. This is due to one of the most important principles - the homogeneity of the Universe. Therefore, there is a distance at which the recession velocity reaches the speed of light, and at greater distances it becomes superluminal. That imaginary sphere, at which the recession velocity is equal to the speed of light, is called the Hubble sphere.
"How is this possible!" the reader will exclaim. "Is special relativity wrong?" It is true, but there is no contradiction here. Superluminal velocities are quite real when it comes not to the transfer of energy or information from one point in space to another. For example, a sunbeam can move at any speed; you just need to place the screen on which it runs further away. SR "prohibits" only the transmission of information and energy at superluminal speed. And for the transfer of information, a signal is needed that propagates through space - the expansion of space itself has nothing to do with it. So, in our example with receding galaxies, everything is in order with the theory of relativity: they recede at superluminal speed only from the Earth observer, and relative to the surrounding space, their speed may even be zero.
Unfortunately, a spaceship does not fall under the definition of a non-informative object and falls under the action of special relativity, which, in turn, prohibits bodies with non-zero rest mass from moving at the speed of light.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.
God save us everyone Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
Unfortunately, a spaceship does not fall under the definition of a non-informative object and is subject to the special theory of relativity, which in turn prohibits bodies with non-zero rest mass from moving at the speed of light.
Vayshan, please state the special theory of relativity for me. What you are so zealously defending is only a consequence applicable to the objects that people usually deal with. And the special theory of relativity itself is about something else. And it is also a special case of the general theory of relativity, also formulated by Einstein, and containing quite interesting things.
Vayshan, please, formulate the Special Theory of Relativity (STR) for me. What you are so zealously defending is only a consequence applicable to the objects that people usually deal with. And the STR itself speaks of something slightly different. And it is also a special case of the General Theory of Relativity (GTR), also formulated by Einstein, and containing quite interesting things.
"The Special Theory of Relativity (STR) (also known as the private theory of relativity; relativistic mechanics) is a theory that describes motion, the laws of mechanics, and spatiotemporal relationships at speeds close to the speed of light. Within the framework of the special theory of relativity, Newtonian classical mechanics is an approximation for low speeds. The generalization of the STR for gravitational fields is called the general theory of relativity." Thank you, Wikipedia. The argument actually started not about the validity of the Theory of Relativity, but about the assumptions in science fiction, and I gave such a well-known example where something that is impossible according to modern theories is postulated as something commonplace, namely, travel at the speed of light or even faster, and for some reason this does not raise any questions from anyone, unlike some other examples of assumptions in science fiction. Double standards, however.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.
God save us everyone Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
Ment
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That's what makes it science fiction, though.
Sorry, but I was just referring to the wording. There isn't any in this quote. And in general, I was getting at the fact that speeds greater than the speed of light don't allow for Lorentz transformations due to the square root. And Lorentz himself came up with Lorentz transformations before special relativity, so the theory is a bit more complex there. And general relativity is even more complex.
That's what fiction is for, though. Sorry, but I was just referring to the wording. There isn't any in this quote. And in general, I was getting at the fact that speeds, high speeds, don't allow for Lorentz transformations due to the square root. And Lorentz himself came up with Lorentz transformations before special relativity, so the theory is a bit more complex there. And general relativity is even more complex.
The equations fit perfectly into special relativity, and it's also obvious that light cannot propagate faster than approximately 300,000 km/s, and this was the case even before any equations, which simply describe the process but do not explain it. Why is this speed the limit for photons and electromagnetic waves?
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.
God save us everyone Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
Ment
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Vayshan
The equations fit perfectly into Special Relativity, and it's obvious that light cannot propagate faster than approximately 300,000 km/s, and this was true even before any equations, which simply describe the process but do not explain it. Why is this speed the limit for photons and electromagnetic waves?
This was not obvious. It was believed that the Galilean transformations applied to light.And even earlier, it was believed that light propagated instantaneously.