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Might and Magic III – figured me out :)


That's my opinion. But it's even better because you can improve your gameplay faster if you have a strong opponent.


If, for example, a very strong player from another portal joins, and the organizers are aware of this, but he's relatively new to that portal, will he be allowed to participate?
Rmax, you say that a beginner isn't someone who plays poorly, but can a
newcomer to the online Heroes community, or even to the game in general, play differently?


Actually, it was just a joke, but now it's turned into a detailed, word-by-word analysis.

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I'm talking about the online Heroes community. If someone is from another portal, it means they've already been involved in the online Heroes community. Even someone who has been playing online for 5 years can play poorly. They're just not very teachable. I played my first online game and my first game against a person on August 31st of this year. And I'm not asking those who are stronger than me to give me a handicap, etc. I just want to play like those who are stronger, that's all. Practice and information, which, by the way, there's plenty of on the forum, help improve your game. In general, if it were up to me, I would play with the strongest players as often as possible, just to learn from them. But the status of the tournament is a different matter. If it's a beginner tournament, those who have already played in it shouldn't participate. They're no longer beginners. And no one is to blame for the fact that they play roughly on par with others (who have been playing for a week or two). And after the tournament, neither you nor I should participate in it in the future. If you think that a certain beginner plays too well and shouldn't play in the beginner tournament just because he plays better than you (in your opinion), then play in a beginner tournament among the worst of them (where strong beginners won't be allowed).

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I'm participating.
A true beginner. No shame?:smile48:
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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A true newbie. Aren't you ashamed?:smile48:

Are you judging by the number of posts? :D
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Andrey, you're overcomplicating things. Several people have signed up who have played in previous "newbie" games. But they didn't excel, they didn't stand out, they didn't do anything to distinguish themselves. And they want to go through this "life lesson" again. Why not give them a chance to do so? If someone doesn't get into university on their first try, they're not told, "That's it, never come back." If they don't succeed on their first attempt, they wait a year, prepare purposefully, and get in on their second try. A second chance should be given; it's perfectly normal. Viktor, and only Viktor, decides whether a player has outgrown the "newbie" status or not. And it's precisely a status, not the length of time a player has been online. Maybe they've been online for three years, but they're busy and can't play regularly, let alone watch videos or browse the forum. Personally, I wouldn't include in the tournament those who registered on the day the tournament was announced or later, as they could be clones of strong players who will crush everyone and then disappear.
ВОИН КЛАНА "РЫЦАРИ АПОКАЛИПСИСА"
Никогда не теряйте концентрации, даже если абсолютно уверены в своей победе: секундная расслабленность, и триумф обернётся горьким поражением.
"Любой filowandel запросто станет Neverminder-ом, если захочет". Kash.
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Are you judging based on the number of posts? :D
I'm judging solely based on the number of posts. It's possible that another player could be in the old player's place, but I'm basing my judgment on the number of posts.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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I suggest not allowing anyone with more than 40 posts to participate in the Competitive tournament: D. They've written so many posts; they're not really newcomers anymore. In my opinion, a true newcomer is someone who, in addition to their time spent online and on the portal, also plays relatively poorly due to a lack of experience (for example, they may have been registered on the portal for a long time but play infrequently due to work, family, etc.), and they play for fun. Their skill level may not improve because they don't have a strong desire to become better at the game, and their focus is on protecting their "front and rear" rather than on the game itself, which they play to relax and have fun (and they're not slow-witted :smile27:). However, they still have the spirit of competition within them. They may not be a newcomer online and may have already participated in tournaments, but they haven't improved. So why shouldn't they be allowed to play in the tournament again if their skill level is the same as that of "newcomers"? :smile26: Rmax - Kinb says that he hasn't reached the level of a newcomer yet, while Kash says that someone has even surpassed that level. So, does being a newcomer also depend on the skill level, and not just the time spent on the portal and online?
Дурман мирской любви сильнее яда кобры, он глупым может сделать мудреца и увести от цели благородной и дух и волю война храбреца.
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Вакцинация младенцев в роддомах преступление!
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Andrey, you're overcomplicating things. Several people have signed up who have played in previous "beginner" tournaments. But they didn't excel, didn't stand out, didn't make any significant impact. And they want to go through this "life school" again. Why not give them a chance to do so? If someone doesn't get into university on their first try, they aren't told: "That's it, never come back." If they don't succeed on their first attempt, they wait a year, prepare purposefully, and get in on their second try. A second chance should be given; it's perfectly normal. Viktor, and only Viktor, decides whether a player has outgrown the "beginner" status or not. And this is precisely a status, not the length of time a player has been online. Maybe they've been online for three years, but they have other things to do, and they can't play regularly, let alone watch videos or browse the forum. Personally, I wouldn't include in the tournament those who registered on the day the tournament was announced or later, as they could be clones of strong players who will crush everyone and then disappear.


Dimas, don't confuse a person's life goals and desires with sporting principles. If there's a youth team tournament, then everyone over 21 is not allowed to participate in the Youth World Championship, regardless of whether they want to or not. There are stars in youth sports who are far superior in skill to their older colleagues, and there are weak, unpromising young athletes who will never become stars. But no one will ever allow those who participated in the youth championship at age 21 to participate again at age 22, even if they are weak. This is a sporting principle – adhering to the rules established by someone. If it's a beginner tournament, then there should be beginners. But Viktor created the tournament and sets the rules, and I'm not arguing with that. I'm just reasoning about the status of the tournament based on its name, because there is no description of who is eligible and who is not.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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Enough whining and pointless chatter! Vegtam is far from being a pro, and the fact that he has 700+ posts or some other achievement doesn't mean he's not suitable for a beginner (look at the previous beginner, and the one before that). Viktor will decide, and for now, let's just have some peace and quiet:smile16:
P.S. the organizers won't allow a strong player or someone who has already outgrown the beginner level:smile27:


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ariputra
I suggest that anyone with more than 40 posts should not be allowed to participate in the tournament: D
They've written so many posts, they're not exactly newcomers anymore.)

In my opinion, Rmax is still a novice because, in addition to the time spent online and on the portal, he also plays relatively weakly due to a lack of experience (for example, he may have been registered on the portal for a long time but plays infrequently due to work, family, etc.), and he plays for fun. His skill level may not improve because he doesn't have a strong desire to become better at the game, and his focus is on protecting his "front and rear" rather than on the game itself. He plays to relax and have fun (and he's not slow-witted:smile27:).

But he still has the spirit of competition. He may not be a novice online and may have already participated in tournaments, but he hasn't improved. So why shouldn't he play in the tournament again if his skill level is the same as that of "newcomers"? :smile26:

Rmax - Kinb says that he hasn't reached the level of a novice yet, while Kash says that someone has already surpassed that level. So, does being a novice also depend on the skill level, and not just the time spent on the portal and online?
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I'll try to explain so that there are no questions. Participating in a tournament is an official declaration to compete according to established sports principles with players who meet the established status. The tournament organizer must announce the status, rules, and deadlines (and there will be no questions). If there is a competitive spirit, make the tournament the way you want and participate. If you participate in a tournament that you want to set up according to your own rules, that's not the right approach.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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Dimas, don't confuse a person's life goals and desires with sports principles. If there's a tournament for youth teams, then everyone over 21 is not allowed to participate in the World Youth Championship, regardless of whether they want to or not. There are stars in youth sports who are overwhelmingly stronger in skill than their older colleagues, and there are weak, unpromising young athletes who will never become stars. But no one will ever allow someone who participated in a youth championship at age 21 to compete there again at age 22, even if they are weak. That's a sporting principle—following the rules established by someone. If it's a tournament for novices, then there should be novices. But Victor created the tournament, and it's up to him to set the rules—I won't argue with that. I'm just reasoning about the status of the tournament based on its name, because there's no description of who is eligible and who is not.
Why is there no description? It's quite clearly there in the first post:
Requirements for participants:
1. Players who, in the organizers' opinion, have "outgrown" this tournament are not allowed to participate. That is, players who are already strong enough, including some participants from previous seasons who have shown good results.
And that's it. Nothing is said about an age limit. Nothing is said about time spent on HeroesWorld. Nothing is said about not being allowed to participate a second time either. "Новичок" is a player's status and their skill. First and foremost. And only then, how much they play online. Remember the excellent classification of all players by KostyaN. Again, it's not for you and me to decide whom the organizer will accept and whom they won't, right? Maybe this Vegtam has been playing Heroes V for two years, but he's only just starting to learn Heroes III. Then he's a novice.
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P.S. the organizers won't allow a strong player or one who has already outgrown the novice status :smile27:
Well, then, imho, you need to decide something regarding Mar, since he has been playing on heroesportal for about a year and a half (under a slightly different nickname, but the same avatar, it's clear it's him), participated in tournaments there, and it's hard to call him a novice anymore.
ВОИН КЛАНА "РЫЦАРИ АПОКАЛИПСИСА"
Никогда не теряйте концентрации, даже если абсолютно уверены в своей победе: секундная расслабленность, и триумф обернётся горьким поражением.
"Любой filowandel запросто станет Neverminder-ом, если захочет". Kash.
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Why is there no description? There is one, right in the first post:
Requirements for participants:
1. Players who, in the organizers' opinion, have "outgrown" this tournament are not allowed to participate. That is, players who are already strong enough, including some participants from past seasons who have shown good results.
And that's all. Nothing is said about an age limit. Nothing is said about time spent on HeroesWorld. Nothing is said about not being allowed to participate a second time either. Novice is a player's status and skill. First and foremost. And only then how long they have been playing online. Remember the excellent classification of all players by KostyaN. Again, it's not for you and me to decide who the organizer will accept and who they won't, right? Maybe this Vegtam has been playing Heroes V for two years, but he's only starting to grasp Heroes III. Then he is a novice.

Why are you drawing your own conclusions? There is no description. In the organizers' opinion, this is not a description. A description is when it matches what is written. But here everyone can make up their own mind as they wish. I imagined it one way, and you imagined it another, but in the end it will be however the organizer understands it.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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in the end, it will be as the organizer understands.

So, what's the point of this circus?
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So, what's the point of this circus?
This isn't a circus. It's the opinion of a participant. Do you think it's wrong? Share your thoughts.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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Guys, enough with the off-topic spam here, honestly. I just stumbled upon it briefly since I ended up on the market.

I’ve already written this and will repeat it: with the information currently available on HeroesWorld (water, numerous comments, report descriptions, and such), becoming a decent player is essentially no problem at all. With good desire and opportunity, a player (novice) can probably even become a decent middling player within a month or two.

Every novice group had 3-5 standout leaders—you can’t do without that.

So, play on, definitely make saves, and watch them after the game if possible. And don’t forget that anyone can win; a lot depends on the layout. Good luck, and don’t turn this into a marketplace—the tournament hasn’t started yet.


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Oh, my little playground has become quite lively and bustling... :) There's no point in repeating what Romario, Ayman, and Neverminder said; they are right. I'll say it again: the upper limit of "newbie" status is quite vague; I evaluate each participant individually. In the first season, I tried to play with everyone who had unfamiliar nicknames, and if necessary, I asked someone to play – now, I'm sorry, but I can't afford to do that; I play very rarely. Therefore, I mainly evaluate based on reports on HW. Mar's reports, to be honest, didn't impress me enough to put him in the "promising" folder. Although, of course, it's clear that he has certain skills. Okay, let's see him on the portal again. And once again, I repeat myself: I cannot allow the "Newbie" tournament to turn into a playground for those who can't play/can play a little/are just starting to play. No matter what it's called, in each season, there will be a couple of people who clearly look stronger than the others and who will set the pace of the tournament. Want to win against them? Train! Play a season, play with different factions, play different builds, play against stronger opponents, analyze saves in detail, find and fix your mistakes, watch streams, remember basic tactics, and come up with your own! And maybe Mar won't seem as scary as you're painting him here. Neverminder explains the criteria for participants perfectly. Trust the organizer's experience; he rarely makes mistakes, so I guarantee that truly strong players will not get into the tournament. Each of the registered participants has a real chance to improve enough in a month to be able to compete for a medal. :) Go and fight, and may the Force (and knowledge) be with you
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Guys, stop whining. In the past, even novice players were stronger; now, they're just pushovers, except maybe Bass has more potential, I'm betting on him! And Ayman is right, anyone can win. In that season, for example, the one person I won against won the whole thing! Enough panic, guys, better practice your skills.
Кто не с нами,тот под нами!:smile10:

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