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#121
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In other words, he only learns the role of the killer.
The killer's nickname remains unknown to him...

If he was spying on the killer, he will obviously learn the role of the person he was spying on. If he was spying on the victim, he should learn both the role and the nickname, I think.
Have you tried reading the game's lore? Brondy are mountains, near which our tavern is located. In Kyle's avatar, a mushroom grows next to a chain of mountains - well, you wouldn't call them the Alps, would you?

I did, but only when I signed up. I somehow missed that...

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!
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And regarding the language, could this be a hint about Magnus? He has a lot of French in his profile.

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If he was spying on the murderer, he would obviously learn the role of the person he was spying on. If he was spying on the victim, he should learn both the role and the nickname, I suppose.
OMG, but why? He's sending the GM the nickname of the person he's going to be watching! What difference does it make if he's watching the murderer or the victim?
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It makes sense, but why is it written this way? After reading this, I thought that a beautiful woman had died.

A mercenary is a young, slender, beautiful, and seductive female warrior. And also an illegitimate princess. How many more hours should she have left in her life?

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!
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OMG, but why? He's referencing the GM's nickname, indicating who he'll be watching!

Well.
If the target turns out to be the killer that night, the Thief receives the result as .
If the target is killed that night, the Thief receives the result as <role and nickname>.
If the target doesn't kill anyone that night and remains alive, the Thief receives no result.

I would do it this way. It's worth waiting for Zubr to clarify.

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!
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As for the language, could this be a hint about Magnus? He has a lot of French in his profile.

If you want, you can also link the clan name "From many, one" in Latin. And "Omsk" transliterated in Lizard's profile. Even English in my and Arandorka's signatures.

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!
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Okay, I understand the logic, thanks. I guess I won’t execute anyone for now.

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If you want, you can also link the clan name "From many, one" in Latin. And "Omsk" transliterated in Lizard's profile. Even English in my and Arandorka's signatures.
I mean, English is somehow more familiar than French or Latin.
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If desired, you can also link the clan name "From many, one" in Latin. And "Omsk" transliterated in Lizard's profile. Even English in my and Arandorka's signatures.
...and the quote from Suvorov should be written in Russian, which is also gibberish for the tavern residents...:D

No, I think there's something more subtle here. :smile30:
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No, I think there's something more subtle at play here.
And this is coming from the Viceroy of India:rolleyes:

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!
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And this is what the Viceroy of India says: :rolleyes:

Yeah, that's true. :D But it feels a bit far-fetched – in that case, I'd argue for Latin as a possible version!

But the mushroom against the backdrop of the mountains clearly indicates Kyle, right? In that case, why should the second clue point to someone else?

And by the way, if Hosta was killed by two players – a murderer and a Mafia member – how many clues should there be? Still no more than two, or no more than two per murderer? Then the blade could also be a clue.

And also – does it matter that part of the body was burned, while another part turned completely to ash? Maybe we should look for ash...
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#130
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Overall, the picture of what happened during the night is more or less clear. Kyle should be executed. The murderer will now go after the peaceful players, and I don't see any reason to let him do that. And he already killed a member of the Mafia, so thank you for that! :p
Вот что плохо в питье водки с утра - трудно будет провести день разнообразно
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Here's another observation: on Lizard's avatar, after the word "idea," there's a meaningless string of letters. Hmm!
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By the way, if Host was killed by two players – a maniac and a mafia member – how many clues should there be? Still no more than two, or no more than two per killer? Then the blade could also be a clue.

There will be a clue only for the one who killed him. The one who arrived late wouldn't have left anything at the crime scene and would have hurried to get away. And roasting the corpse... unless it was out of spite :D

Therefore, I doubt that two people were hunting Hostor.

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!
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In general, the picture of the night is more or less clear.
Execute Kyle
I suggest that everyone who has a complete picture of the night express it in detail. That is, something like: "The killer is N, this is indicated by this and that. The second killer is J, because of this and that."

This will help others see the missing logical connections.

Kyle, for example, will probably be hanged anyway, but is he our primary target? After all, there are characters who, in the event of a bad player being checked, will kill him in the next night anyway, and Kyle was checked. We need to think about it better.

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There will be evidence only for the one who killed. The one who was late would not have left anything at the crime scene, and would have hurried to get away. And to burn the body... unless out of spite :D

Therefore, I doubt that two people were hunting Hostor.

If two people chose the victim, then the GM could have wanted to point this out to us by mentioning a double method of killing.

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And tell me, supporters of the theory that the mercenary died - where is her victim? The mercenary walks in front of the killer, she would have had time to kill someone. You will tell me that she tried to kill Daerel, but was blocked by the ranger... But what was she doing at Neyra's door?! Did she take a tour of all the bedrooms?

So, if Host is the mercenary, then she was NOT going to kill Neyra, because the mercenary kills before the killer. There is no evidence of protection in Neyra's room, and the block is a key point and it would have been indicated.

Then Host could have been at Neyra's door only as a protector of the assassin. In this case, Neyra is the assassin, and Host died for him.

But there is a contradiction here. Who could have tried to kill the assassin? Only the killer. Okay, the killer killed the mercenary with an axe... but who burned her? After all, the mafia could not have chosen the mercenary as their target.:confused:
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I just don't like writing a lot! Especially when everything has already been said several times )))
Kyle is a maniac who killed the mercenary.
Dariela was defending the ranger.

I'm not ready to hang anyone else yet because there's a high chance of making a mistake and hanging a town member.

The maniac will kill a town member tonight; what if he kills Katarina today, and we immediately lose two important roles?! What will you do then, will you regret it?? Let him hang!!
Вот что плохо в питье водки с утра - трудно будет провести день разнообразно
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You see, Slonysh, the point is that only a maniac could have committed the murder. That is, even if, let's say, Hostor isn't Mafia and they were trying to kill him, they wouldn't have left any traces. The killer would have simply come, seen that he was late, gotten upset, and left. The GM would only give a hint that someone else had visited. P.S.: I still support the possibility that Hostor is a mercenary, and also that the Mafia attempted to kill Dariel. Regarding the arson, again, this could be a clue.
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