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bRitvo4kA (red, swamp, Vistan, Vistan) draw FAVorite (blue, Conflux, random Tunar, Tazar), Balance, 145




After two intense exchanges in the open field, I repelled a new wave of elemental attacks in the capital. We decided to end it with a truce.

bRitvo4kA (blue, Necropolis, Galtran, Galtran) def FAVorite (red, Conflux, random Brissa, Gunnar), Balance, 126


Gosha definitely knows how to play on Balance, even without a log.

1.5:0.5 To be continued...

That's how it was... in the first game, I didn't expect such resistance in the Castle... and in the second game, it was very difficult with resources... thanks for the game
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numOne (red, Castle, Valeska, Clavius) def Psyche_7 (blue, Rampart, Ivor, Ivor), balance, 134

I would like to express my gratitude to the organizer and all participants, especially those with whom I played.
Thank you for the experience!

numOne, good luck!
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With Cobra, the situation is as follows: we only have time to play on Saturday night. Last week, we started, took one break, and then Cobra fell asleep. This weekend, we agreed that he would try to start as soon as he could, but this blissful event didn't happen before 4 AM. I don't know when we'll be able to play again.
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Here's the situation with Cobra: we only have time to play together on Saturday night. Last week, we started, took one break, and then Cobra fell asleep.

This weekend, we agreed that he would try to start as soon as he could, but this blissful event didn't happen until 4 AM.

I don't know when we'll be able to play together again.

Yeah, that's how it is. I didn't expect we'd only have one session together... :(
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Thank you to everyone who played on time and didn't forfeit their matches without a fight. Thanks to you, the tournament is interesting and competitive.
numOne - congratulations on advancing to the next round.
The minimatch between bRitvo4kA and FAVorite is a close one, and the New Year holidays are just around the corner. In this regard, I suggest taking a winter break until January 10th, inclusive. I think you will find time to play during these days and determine the strongest among you.

I wish everyone a fun holiday season and good luck in the battles! :)
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wowa (red, allrandom, rampart, Clancy, Tyraxor) def Mizrael (blue, allrandom rampart, Mephala, Mephala), 143, ChinaBalance@slow roads

It's pleasant to play strong factions against a strong opponent – even with unfamiliar rules on a little-known template :) :) truth be told, the rules played a nasty trick on the opponent – despite having a stash of wood elves, elves, and dwarves (and about 3 medusa-things from the dungeon)))) against my single stash with kentaurs, he got so carried away leveling up Gunnar (who is unsuitable for Rampart) that he switched to Mephala a bit too late, which certainly played a role... however, I also incorrectly estimated the range of options for exploring zones on Balance, so I spent the 3rd week, if not in vain, then at least not as effectively as I could have with more experience – nevertheless, in the FF, the parameters decided it and luck struck when needed,))) though, even if I had lost her, the opponent would still have had to fight for a draw ;)
The respawn for this template was very rich (perhaps the Chinese rank Castle and Rampart so high not only because of their stability and ranged units, but also because of how greedily they consume grass resps))) In the 1st week, I bought 7 heroes, uniques in the Castle, a thousand in the secondary with a market (where I specifically exchanged a crystal)) on the 6th day I rescue the 8th from prison: an unbanned Solmir, but meanwhile Tiras is already level 6 with stats around 7-5, and Grinya is still running around leveling up))) at 121 Tiras hits lots of basilisks in an adjacent zone, then lots of gr.evil-eyes and a road loop through a refuge, where they didn't really give anything, leading to another Rampart village! A book is bought – haste for air ;) while the boss runs back, the stash goes to punch a hole with Grindan into the barbarian wasteland with a Pandora guard hook nearby, Solmir runs to it on a papal wolf, and Clancy goes scouting on a kentaur :) Tiras himself with pathfind, having received the stash behind him, eats the dwarf mine by 20s, Pandora for 5K exp behind a pack of blue monks, and by the end of the week finally reaches the stables near the starting one)) Plenty of money – I decide to aim for dragons ;) so while Tiras, having eaten the naga-bank, stood at 127 in the stables again, the stash meanders through the respawn, "capturing sulfur and crystals so we can buy dragon rocks" ©
at 131 Tyr with full growth and a supplement from villages hits the GO (Guard Outpost) from lots of nagas, and behind the teleport is a throng (!!!) of thunders: creatures comparable in nastiness to upgraded efreet; I remember how in "Bespredel" 5 archs were rolled by lightning with 10 champions + devour, and the hero had implosion!.. :D nevertheless, with an army consisting of 37 elves, 80 basic dwarves, 17 gr.wood elves, 140+1+1 kentaurs and 10 gr.uniques + ballista + tent + haste, we charge them!! it turned out to be 119 and the 1st turn wasn't mine – no matter how you position, 2 units to remove retaliation kill immediately :( nevertheless I got out with 50 dwarves, 15 wood elves and a horde of kentaurs, the rest suffered no damage, including the machines :) behind them – the grass is guarded by a horde of the same birds, but mana is 0 after the battle – but I broke through to the central treasure on the sand, there's a hive nearby, and boots are visible behind the mountains! well, I think – since I took pathfind – I should see what's there ;) it didn't bring anything decisive, and the adjacent super-treasure – if I had run for it – would have only broken the tempo, especially since the opponent could at any moment punch through the birds from their side and cut the chain back, and then a stash from 2 castles – and it's unlikely that the treasures on Balance would compensate for that
Tiras, however, ran to another adjacent zone for the boots, and on the way he also grabbed the gloves, pathfind expert, basic log :) from my castle to the teleport with birds is half a day on foot – I decide to stand before the opponent's GO at 137, and then try to reach it with the boots and gloves ;) a mistake or not, but I thought mana would be just enough for haste against the birds, so I didn't check air – otherwise I would have stood before the GO at 136 and broken in a day earlier, without running for the mines and the +2+2 knife – the losers would have managed))) but as it is, I don't reach anywhere, and the stash slips past me :( at the same time, I hit the birds (already a throng) with growth, and when I took it back with a loser so the castle could be attacked, I checked twice how much grows so as not to make a mistake in the number ;) as a result, I didn't attack the castle, and didn't reach the loser who evacuated the stash by exactly those 2 cells :( :( on my turn, I take revenge on the other betrayers and through the stables I enter the empty castle, bought out to 0!
I accelerate, mana is now a full piggy bank, the red losers rushed to the respawn to scatter in all directions
well, Tyr decides to chase after the exported growth: since there is only one road between us and it is not looped (2 other roads ended in Rampart villages), I will cut Mephala off from it, and then try to drive her into a dead end or wasteland – time works for me + 12 geese + in the castles there are unbought dragons and pegasi and small fry in the villages ;) even if she beats me upon meeting – by the time she runs back, there will be something to meet her with, including Solmir ;)
meanwhile, the opponent returns with the mom, takes the 3-can with the whole army via a chain of losers and – judging by everything, with the last cell – attacks:





Considerations for this battle are already above – even in the case of non-child morale for Mephala, my goal was – to kill all the shooters and flyers, and then pay off, not let them near the castles, wait for growth etc. etc., especially since the approaches were opened, and in a week hardly anything would have broken there from the flaxes and necros :) however, luck in this battle was on Tiras's side – dwarves under mass haste reliably resisted the oil, bringing a cast interrupt at the beginning of the round already after killing the greens who managed to burn the elves before death, and my pointy-eared ones got morale a couple of times, which only accelerated the resolution :)

1:0, many thanks to the opponent for the game and the new experience!
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Mizrael (red, allrandom, Castle, Tyris, Tyris) def wowa (blue, allrandom, Stronghold, Gretchin, Gretchin), 137, ChinaBalance@medium roads

For the most part, the result was influenced by neutral morale, but I deserved it: they took revenge for the previous game of the match, when in FF Mephala with +3 morale she never showed up)))

My opponent took both restarts, Stronghold got crushed by Castle
Day 1 – 60 upgraded goblins, Gretchin gets a log and reveals a consulate
Then the scout explored 2 roads down-left – 1 to the GO behind a pack of harpies, 2nd to a teleport behind a lot of snipers, 3rd up-right past the mana doubler – to the secondary hero, which I ran for 4 days as a result
While Gretchin was fussing around down below, I bought Deemer to transfer the orcs and his troglodytes to Frog, he wants to attack the lot of bandits for a treasure chest and resources, but by mistake attacks the archers, then doubles, finally beats the bandits, Frog mills around a bit, and then breaks through hordes of small tramplers to his own village
The noobs scouted an external dwelling of birds, and Frog, taking the secondary hero and getting goblins and birds, takes it on 117
By the end of the week: 7 heroes, in Castle 1-3, 5 in the citadel, 7 heroes
On week 2, Deemer with 7 goblins checks a 3-stack, taking 18 griffins with him! :) Then Gretchin, taking the medusa dwelling (the 2nd was cleared by Zhabarkas) with a full buyout, goes in there, I deal with the left ones, but the griffins on the right, after killing the decoy, get a morale boost and fly forward, on the 2nd round there’s no way to avoid them, and piling on means exposing myself to those even further right :( as a result, the chickens crash into the goblins, and in the end only birds remain – 7 spawned
I fight 3 of them in a chain, Kirr clears the max dwarf dwelling with angels, by the end of the week I set up runners in Castle, Gretchin, having snatched tactics, hits the snipers and takes his native village on the grass
On week 3, the noobs find on the grass respawn an external dwelling of runners and a can of preserves, which Frog of level 7-8 runs to take – a three-stack! Gretchin breaks another three-stack between Castle and GO, and on 134 with 9 angels, 4 bears, and 17 birds runs to fight him – stats 16-4-2-2, a bunch of non-expert secondary skills, including Air, and even advanced Offense :(
He didn’t take goblins and wolves with him, and with a ring of +1 luck-morale he diluted the troops with Necromancer meat – but it helped little – on the very first turn, 2 morale procs for black, and both on the hitting stacks: birds and angels!!! Although I positioned myself, for some reason they didn’t eat out the full hit, so barbarian defense, or rather its lack, let me down :D As a result, the bird stack was wiped except for one, and a couple of angels, but at least I kept the bears
I jump into the teleport, and there’s Tyris herself! I decide to attack before she’s ready to meet me, in the army there are still about 30 wolves and 60 goblins + singles (I didn’t manage to bring anyone from the village) Tyris has stats like 8-8 and 0 mana (the leftovers were eaten by ground rags) but the opponent has tactics one level higher, 70 marksmen, 8 angels, 9 horses, a hydra, and singles of marksmen – he hides in the corner, while we, remembering that our morale is higher than those damned dragons, through a wait run all forward, but in vain – not a single morale proc the entire fight, only 2 angels hit the archers once :( but toward the end, when everything was clear, the opponent got a morale proc, and the artifacts went to the mistress of CSKA!! :D Frog at home is also pretty leveled, but the capital is close, and the new week is far off, and there were too many archers and a couple of angels left, and they also brought griffins – the opponent didn’t stand on ceremony and reached me on 137 – GG

1:1, thanks to my opponent for the game, waiting for the decisive matches :)
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Mizrael (red, allrandom, Castle, Tyris, Tyris) def wowa (blue, allrandom, Stronghold, Gretchin, Gretchin), 137

Chinese rules again, the draw was interesting: Castle vs Stronghold, and even the starting heroes turned out well. Bows were built from the start, gathered 18 of them, which is already good. On the first day, I spread out well with 6 heroes; Tyris got Air magic right away. Two Griffin Conservatories under the castle gave a certain optimism, especially since a native dwelling is mandatory on the balance, which means extra pokemons. :)
113 - the village is captured, immediately a tavern and a fresh scout return the gold to the center of the carousel, which clears the resp, finding external dwellings of swords and pokemons.
114 - minor local skirmishes, the main hero prepares to break through to the neighboring resp, for which swordsmen are brought from home.
115 - swords from home + from the external dwelling are delivered; I break through the lot of gr. harpies for the portal, but on the other side are enchanters (I spat in annoyance, because the harpies bit the pokemons, and I could have not fought them at all)... I beat the guard of another zone: a pack of trolls.
116 - a Conflux village is recaptured; urgently need a lot of money for horses, so I have to first beat a stack of elves (fine, without an upgrade, but 40+), then a horde of harpies (also without an upgrade). Scouts found another external dwelling of pokemons - meaning they will definitely spawn at the start of the second conservatory.
117 - the scout also found an external dwelling of archers; weekly result: horses in the citadel, 2 external dwellings of pokemons, one each of swords and bows.
On the second week, I fed Tyris a chest for experience; expert Air - the guild gave Haste, only 1 Knowledge :cool:
123 - I wanted to break a dwarf dwelling with a scout, but it turned out to be a Throng dwelling, and the main hero was nearby... so I fed it to her, and there's the money for upgrading pokemons :).
124 - I leveled up before the first conservatory on guarding a swamp resp through a teleport; scouts with gold recaptured a village there.
125 - Calh takes an external dwelling of hydras, gold to the main hero, and she, with 5 mana for one Haste, breaks the level-2 conservatory. Tyris sits in the castle to replenish her pitiful 10 mana :D.
126 - the level-3 conservatory falls; the battle for money on the swamp resp begins; all heroes that could have run over and positioned themselves to clear everything they can in two days.
127 - dwarf dwelling + two Naga Banks (the day before there was a Medusa dwelling and a Crypt) = angels in the castle; the main hero manages to sit there too, to start the first day from the stables with full mana.
The third week was marked by a march into the sands (guard: a pack of grizzly bears), where there was nothing worthwhile, but a teleport to the opponent was found. Tyris convinced the Scorpid horde, but her meager mana reserves ran out there, and on the other side was a pack of Azure Dragons... no way, no way; I run away for 1000 experience, just enough for a level up, got Earth magic and couldn't refuse - a reflex :) A bit later I thought about it and, from the movement on the barbarian resp on the previous turn, realized the Azure Dragons could fall at any moment! And I had wasted money on building in castles... if anything, I won't even have enough to buy back. I split off single Marksmen and began to wait, hoping my intuition was wrong and Gretchin still had other plans for the reps, but my premonition was correct; I saw her beat the dragons and began to mentally prepare for battle, cursing myself for wasting the money.
Gretchin comes out of the portal, sees Tyris, and attacks; the fight is well described in Wowa's post, so there's no point in repeating it. We skirmished for a couple more days, but the delivery of Crushers and Griffins in addition to a large stack of Archers made defending the castle impossible. Thanks for the game.
P.S. A full VOD of the game was recorded; as soon as I voice it over, I'll upload it ;).
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Thank you to everyone who participated and didn't forfeit their matches without a fight. Thanks to you, the tournament is interesting and competitive.
numOne - congratulations on advancing to the next round.
The match between bRitvo4kA and FAVorite is a close one, and the New Year holidays are approaching. In this regard, I suggest taking a winter break until January 10th, inclusive. I think you will find time to play and determine the stronger of the two during these days.

I wish everyone a fun holiday season and good luck in the battles! :)

bRitvo4kA, I'm ready to play any day before January 11th, by agreement.
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Unfortunately, KobRa_RR has withdrawn from the tournament, and Wicc advances to the next round. We are waiting for the results of the remaining matches: bRitvo4kA - FAVorite and Mizrael - wowa. I hope no one has lost their desire to play?
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bRitvo4kA (red, Dungeon, Tazar, Gunnar) def FAVorite (blue, Castle, Valeska, Valeska), Balance, 146

After capturing a Rampart village where I found an external dwelling of elves, I decided to focus on grand elves.
I saw Valka heading into the sands, assessed the forces, and decided to intercept. I caught her during the early game with a horde of Troglodytes.
-I was just a bit short of taking her out.
From the scouting view I saw weak guards at the treasure zone and headed there to gather Wyverns. After collecting over fifty and buying artifacts at the black market, I pushed toward my opponent, who, having split his forces, met me with his entire army.
-the advantage in army size and skills decided the battle in my favor

Thanks for the game!

Final score 2.5:0.5
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bRitvo4kA (red, Dungeon, Tazar, Gunnar) def FAVorite (blue, Castle, Valeska, Valeska), Balance, 146

After capturing the Rampart village where I found an external dwelling of elves, I decided to focus on Grand Elves.
Saw Val heading into the sands, assessed the forces, and decided to cut her off. I caught her in the open with a horde of Troglodytes.
- was literally just a little short of killing her.
From the scouting view I saw weak guards in the treasure zone and headed there to gather Wyverns. Having collected more than fifty and bought artifacts at the black market, I broke through to the opponent where he met me with his entire army after being defeated.


Thanks for the game!

Result 2.5:0.5

Got to the treasure zone 1 day earlier... but the chain with troops was delayed, realizing that Gunnar would catch up to me, and considering the larger number of troops, I decided to retreat back, gave away the troops, and kept only the Troglodytes for myself (no loss), knew there would be an attempt to kill... didn't go to chase Gunnar into the treasure zone, because the speed stats are incomparable.. saw 2 Griffin Conservatories and decided to take them, and capture the opponent's castles.. but messed up the direction a bit... in the end Gunnar started coming for me.. I recalled the troops via the chain, was defeated by Valeska and then attacked... apparently in vain
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I've drawn the pairings for round 3 (semifinals), with a deadline of January 24th. The matches are: numOne vs. bRitvo4kA. Wicc will play against the winner of the match between Mizrael and wowa (they have already started their decisive game). A big request to Mizrael and wowa: please play your match, I think Wicc wouldn't like to advance to the finals without a fight. :) Good luck to everyone, may the best win!
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wowa (red, allrandom, dungeon, Malekith, Loynis) def Mizrael (blue, allrandom rampart, Thorgrim, Gretchin), 136, ChinaBalance@superfast roads

in the very first generation I was dealt Tirith against Misha's Gretchin – such a deja vu))) but he didn't play – as a result, he used all his restarts and ended up in a tough layout
my situation was no picnic either, and with wood it was a total disaster, there was nothing to build not just markets – even taverns and mage guilds to replenish mana for the main mage-daddy, and that was closer to the end of the game!!! fortunately, the well saved me, where the boss ran as many as 3 times! :)

the beginning was unclear – stables near the castle, an external dwelling of medusas, GO – a horde of battle units... though not a single decent fighter :( but then Putin gets Logistics, and remembering that on balance it's damn hard to fill all secondary skills, so even a paltry Sorcery Learning is more of a plus for him than a minus, and mages look pretty good on balance – I decide to level him up :)
result of week 1: medusas in the Citadel and 2 of their summonings
but on week 2 there's nowhere to go, I decide with what I have to tackle rather unpleasant blocks – hordes of archers, maximum stacks of 6th-tier creatures, to break through to the light ;) well, fighting archers is simple – they either target Troglodytes, which I was already wasting on week 1, or Eyes, they don't touch the stack, but battles with cats, nagas, etc. (plus there was a horde of air elementals with a stack)))) by the end of the week left my army with a rather minimal than average lot of medusas, and also noobs are running around on harpies – but I captured two necro towns: a village and a fort, managed to reach the Conflux fort – though with Laura without an army, and also captured a refuge, which decided a lot ;)
to the left of the necro fort, behind a lot of archmages, there is blue stirring, but he doesn't attack, apparently his situation is also not great
the last thing I did before saving – I traded and inserted Centaurs, because there was no strong army
but at the start of week 3 the refuge gives Dimension Door!!! on that day a necro village and a Conflux also fell, but only 3 taverns, not the whole layout is visible, no time to run to thieves, the chain from home is stretched to the limit))) well, I think – if blue sees a dragon in the tavern, let him get nervous while Putin pumps up his mana :D just as it was offered when breaking through a horde of crushers behind the necro village :) then again the well, 19 champions for a box – I take it, and inside there are 60 zombies! Laura opened the Observer, 3 components of the Obelisk are visible, the Shield from it together with the Griffin Conservatory on lava is guarded by a pack of Scorpicores – I run there! I could have taken the Conservatory a day earlier, but first I grab +4 to attack, and the next turn with the last mana I break through a tier-3 dwelling (the damned griffins hit the medusas, despite them being under Prayer, but the Troglodytes under Bless did decent damage))) I sacrificed all the zombies there, thanks to them for triple Dismoral on the medusas!)))))) but the dragon decided, taking several hits from full stacks, including morale ones)
on the same turn I capture an Inferno village and stop there to expand, but I can't build a mage guild no matter what :(
the next turn I break through a short road to home, shortening the chain by 2 links, and run to the center, stopping on angels and a dragon in front of a throng of fire elementals – on the opponent's turn I see Gretchin crawling there with a noob: he's fighting for the Sword from the Obelisk, but is one tile short of picking it up! I upgrade the Eyes, though there are few of them, buy everything out, bring them up and with zero mana (and for the record – with Expert Air and Advanced Earth and Water, but without Haste and Slow) I attack – first the noob with wood and remnants of Centaurs, then the main one: kamikaze Dimension Doors plunge into the grand units, and while they deal with them, the rest, though under Oil, huddle in a corner – in round 2 only 10 elves fire, about 40 medusas, and also 3 angels and the remaining force – 6-tier units and a stack of pegasi have nothing to catch

GG, thanks to the opponent for the game, the match and such valuable experience on balance, the playability of which raises, imho, more and more questions :)
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wowa (red, allrandom, dungeon, Malekith, Loynis) def Mizrael (blue, allrandom rampart, Thorgrim, Gretchin), 136, ChinaBalance@super fast roads

That was a game. A real tough situation:D. Respawn was as poor as a church mouse, somehow managed to cram uniques from an external dwelling of wood, but there was nothing to buy this happiness with! I was essentially useless for a week, only started moving closer to the third month, switched from Crellion to Gretchin, pathfinding is still a must on this balance. As soon as I experted earth magic, I immediately bought the spell book and broke the ГО - a horde of pits, but the loss of tempo took its toll - Vova was already wreaking havoc over there, 1 Angelic Alliance allowed him to prevent the grand elites from firing in round 1, and after that I had nothing left to pull out, and since there was nowhere to get gold anymore, there was no point in even trying. Thanks for the game, by the way, I’m starting to see the irony in the template's name :).

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