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I've decided to organize a qualifying tournament in Barnaul (with Novosibirsk as an alternative, which we can discuss). Therefore, I have a few questions for the respected online players. 1. Who would like to participate? The financial costs are as follows: Today, I checked the prices in Barnaul. A room for two at the "Altai" hotel (in the city center) costs 800 rubles. Or a single room for 550 rubles. The toilet and shower are in the hallway. There are rooms in the same hotel with a toilet and sauna, but they are more expensive. Playing at the club from 9 am to 10 pm costs 240 rubles. A good lunch at a cafe costs 100 rubles. The minimum cost per day is: Room: 400 rubles Club: 240 rubles Food: 200 rubles Drinks: 160 rubles TOTAL: 1000 rubles per day Plus the train/bus fare to and from Barnaul. Once we decide on the date, I will create and provide a link to a schedule. 2. What dates are most convenient for everyone? We can start from January 3rd. 3. I propose a TE-lite format, with a limit of 1800+300 with battles. The players from Barnaul are in favor. I'd like to hear what others think. Reducing the SOD (Simultaneous Order Duration) to 2 minutes won't significantly speed up the game because time doesn't pass in the SOD during battles. Also, it's not realistic to transfer troops along the chain in 2 minutes; maybe the Chinese can help, but it's not guaranteed. I suggest, as part of the preparation, participating in a TE-lite tournament: http://www.heroesportal.net/tavern/?id=281388 The limit here is, of course, higher: 3600+360, but playing TE-lite will still be beneficial. And the limit can be reduced by mutual agreement.
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I've decided to organize a qualifying tournament in Barnaul (with Novosibirsk as an alternative, we can discuss it). Therefore, I have a few questions for the respected online players. 1. Who would like to participate? The financial expenses will be: Today, I checked the prices in Barnaul. A room for two in the "Altai" hotel (in the city center) costs 800 rubles. Or a single room for 550. Toilet and shower are in the hallway. There are rooms in the same hotel with a toilet and sauna, but they are more expensive. Playing at the club from 9 am to 10 pm costs 240 rubles. A good lunch at a cafe costs 100 rubles. The minimum cost will be: Room - 400 Club - 240 Food - 200 Drinks - 160 TOTAL - 1000 rubles per day Plus train/bus fare to and from Barnaul. Once we decide on the date, I will draw a map and provide a link to it. 2. What dates are convenient for everyone? We can start from January 3rd. 3. I propose a TE-lite format, with a limit of 1800+300 with battles. The players from Barnaul are in favor. I would like to hear other opinions. Reducing the SOD time to 2 minutes won't significantly speed things up because the time in SOD doesn't count during battles. Also, it's not realistic to transfer troops along the chain in 2 minutes, although maybe the Chinese can help, but it's not guaranteed. I suggest, as part of the preparation, participating in a TE-lite tournament: http://www.heroesportal.net/tavern/?id=281388 The limit here is, of course, higher: 3600+360, but playing TE-lite will still be beneficial. And the limit can be reduced by mutual agreement.
If there are no unforeseen circumstances, I will be there. There is also another option to consider: renting a large apartment or house and bringing our computers there, but we'll need to bring our own snacks and drinks. In short, I'm in, no matter what. But I only play SOD. If anyone else from Kuzbass is going, let me know, and we can coordinate.
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Alessandro
I decided to organize a qualifying tournament in Barnaul (there's also an option for Novosibirsk, we can discuss it).
I don't think it matters much. It depends on people's willingness to travel.
Alessandro
1. Who would like to participate?
If the dates are during the New Year holidays, I will definitely participate. We need to think about the other dates.
Alessandro
A room in the "Altai" hotel (in the city center) for two people costs 800 rubles. Or a single room for 550. Toilet and shower are in the hallway.
Sasha, what is this nonsense? :confused: Why hotels? It's better to find out how much a 3-4 room apartment costs per day! It's much more fun and cheaper to live in an apartment!
Alessandro
Dates, what dates are most convenient for everyone - we can start from January 3rd.
I'm all for the New Year dates. I'd like to set aside at least 4 days for such an event!
Alessandro
3. I suggest TE-Light, with a limit of 1800+300 with battles. The people from Barnaul are in favor.
I thought about it, and I realized that TE-Light is the only way to agree on the dates in advance... A limit of 1800+300 will allow us to play 2 games a day, and in an organized way, not like in Kyiv (no offense to the participants). I think it's worth playing a game and if it takes longer than 4-5 hours, we should postpone it and finish it later!

So, let's discuss!
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Greetings to all Heroes fans and those passionate about the game!!!

I didn't want to write this, but I couldn't hold back - why is everyone afraid of (or unwilling to do) SoD with 6 minutes? I played all my matches in Michurinsk and had plenty of free time to walk around the club and observe the battles; I've been doing this for a very long time, and that doesn't mean my opponents made their moves in 1 minute or that we didn't restart—we restarted, and boy, did we...
if you go to a tournament to watch/relax, then even 2 days per match won't be enough. But those who take the tournament seriously can easily fit 2 games a day into 8 minutes and still spend their time "culturally"!!!
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scorp
Didn't want to write...

And wouldn't have written!
:)))
Guys, you're on the right track! A rented house/cottage outside the city. Don't get sidetracked! I would have come myself if it were closer.
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I wouldn't have written it! ...

There haven't been any champs in Michurinsk that I've attended where the tournament didn't end within the planned timeframe. :)

and SoD has nothing to do with this !!!
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and SOD has nothing to do with it!!!
Why does it have nothing to do with it? I would also gladly play SOD, but... in SOD, turns can take 30 minutes, which is normal for me. But this is unacceptable for a tournament in a club. Kyiv is a clear example of this. Some people's games take too long, while others are already playing their third game. Although, we should still think about controlling the time, based on the time allotted for the game by the club.
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So, let's decide! If the players are okay with Barnaul, I'm all for it! Because I'd like to relax, chat, and maybe even play (even though I'm terrible at random maps), rather than organize all of this... :-)

We'll play TE-lite.

We can still discuss the time. 18:00 + 300 is fine with me.

Regarding accommodation, I agree with Dirty_Player - it's better, cheaper, and more fun to rent a house! Another advantage of a house is that we can continue playing games that go on for a long time in the apartment, bring a couple of laptops, and the process will continue!

We need to discuss the game templates!

And the advance generation of save files... I'm all for it!!! I'll ask someone experienced and impartial to generate the save files...!

P.S. If the gathering is in Barnaul, I'll probably drive, so I can take a couple more enthusiasts from Novosibirsk!

P.P.S. I would really like to see Deep Mike from Prokopyevsk at the gathering!!!
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If everything works out, I'll try to come, but I won't make any promises in advance. I usually start working on the 4th of January, but I'll try to get a day off. Barnaul or Novosibirsk – there's probably not much difference, there's more transport to Novosibirsk, but there are also some connections to Barnaul. TE-light and a limit of 1800+300 is fine; I recently played a couple of games online with Alessandro on 600+300, and that was quite enough for me. Regarding accommodation, it's probably better to rent an apartment than stay in a hotel.
I didn't quite understand the part about templates and pre-generation. Aren't we playing by the standard rules? So, the template is definitely 2sm4d(3); everyone knows it. I personally have only played 8mm besides it, but I've played it for longer, and that's not the point. And how can you pre-generate so many options to account for all possible quirks, and in several variations? It seems like restarts are inevitable.
P.S. Van, what city are you from? I didn't even know that someone else from Kuzbass plays.
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600+300?

4000+400 is not enough for me on Djebus:D
Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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to Mike HP from the capital :D, from the northern :D city-hero-twin of Rio de Janeiro, Kemerovo.
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Dust_HL
And I'm all for generating saves in advance... Please ask someone experienced and unbiased to generate the saves.
I personally am against generating maps. It's better for the computer to generate maps, rather than people complaining later, saying "who generated this, I'd tear their hands off" and so on.

2Oelm
600+300, probably without counting battles ;)
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Dirty_Player
I am personally against random map generation! It’s better if the computer generates the maps, rather than people complaining later, saying things like “who generated this, I’d tear their hands off” and so on.
For this to work, the maps need to be generated by a person who is very distant (physically) from the players, and preferably someone they don’t know. Then it will be easier to accept fate. :)
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Dirty_Player
I personally oppose generating maps automatically! It's better if the computer generates the maps, rather than people complaining later, saying things like "who generated this, I'd tear their hands off" and so on.

2Oelm
600+300, probably without counting the battles ;)

With battles, time passed in them )). However, these games were more of a training exercise; it's not enough for more serious games, but 1800+300 is quite optimal for a real game so it doesn't drag on too much.
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Dirty_Player
Personally, I'm against generating factions beforehand! It's better to let the computer generate the maps, so people won't complain later, saying things like "who generated this, I'd rip their hands off" and so on.
If there's more than 3 days, you can do it with restarts if you want to spend time on them. You can ask Vik or Yama-Darma to generate the factions, and I think they won't mind who gets what. You're playing a random game, so you should complain about that if the distribution is bad. Besides, there will definitely be fewer of these generated setups, because the guys will at least look at how playable the setup is.
P.S. In general, if there's a selection process in Barnaul, I'll be a bot :-))), if the number of participants is odd!
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