Pop music and your opinion about it. — Music

kcfgogbfalgfl

17 years ago

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Listening to metal just to show off – that's a typical statement from someone who listens to music regardless of the style (I forgot what it's called :D). It's as silly as saying that heavy music makes you stupid. I don't understand what I would gain from listening to music that I don't like. Would I become cooler? Oh yes, I'll tell everyone, "Look, I listen to all kinds of music, regardless of the genre, unlike you." If a person enjoys this kind of music (metal) and is disgusted by all sorts of pop music, they should still listen to all genres, yes, and broaden their musical horizons.

HoM[M]ie

17 years ago

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What's there to argue about... Musical preferences... The main thing is that the person should be a good one.

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oxygen_hl

17 years ago

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eXeCuToR

I understand that you're upset. Go ahead and vent. But this phrase sounds like a mockery of everyone in the community who listens to this genre. Maybe you could address your messages in a way that avoids misunderstandings? Or is there a stereotype that "all metalheads are idiots"?))

You're not reading carefully. Slonysh clearly stated that we go to Metallica concerts. So, the thesis you presented would be a bit strange, wouldn't it? We're not talking about preferences because arguing about taste is pointless. If you like metal, that's fine; I like a lot of it too. The point was about primitiveness. And here, objective assessments are quite appropriate. During the discussion, the term "French chanson" came up, which my wife tried to explain to K-jay. To which this wonderful gentleman responded with a rather harsh remark. Therefore, my perhaps somewhat heated response was directed specifically at him. This was evident from the fact that I quoted him. So, if anyone took it personally, they did so in vain. ;)

Слоныш

17 years ago

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eXeCuToR

Regarding not listening to the other person – that’s a very accurate observation. Do you even read what’s written here? Only kj1313 said that he doesn’t like anything other than metal, while the others also like other music, they just prioritize metal. And now you’re talking about conservatism and not listening to the other person.

I apologize. I somehow missed all those displays of tolerance that you’re referring to. Quite the opposite, actually.

Ленка

I can’t stand it! Especially STASYA ZADOROZHNAYA!!! Even her name annoys me! Metal will always live on, pop music will die immediately!

LeBron

I only listen to and play Metallica, IM, Rammstein... sometimes Russian bands like Aria, Lumen, etc. :) Sometimes I listen to some rap. And of course, house music in clubs – you can’t do without it :)

TWELF 12

The most annoying thing is that people who listen to this garbage often turn into the same kind of idiots...

kj1313

P.S. It’s a funny topic to discuss pop music, you just don’t have to listen to it and forget about it.

And by the way, no one has answered clearly how artists like Elton John, for example (the epitome of pop music, which no one will deny), have “sinned” in terms of the complexity of the composition, the quality of performance, and the beauty of the music.

And I also don’t like chanson or classical music, simply because I don’t like them. And if we’re talking about it, in a certain sense, they are pop music. And metal is pop music, and everything around is pop music, and people get paid for almost any music.

And in what sense is classical music pop music, could you be more specific? And by the way, how much were Mozart and Beethoven, who died in poverty, paid? Because I’m not sure – maybe they were given millions, and they just spent it all on beer.
And seriously, it’s fundamentally wrong to consider all symphonic music to be equally “light” or “heavy.” Compare Chopin and Prokofiev – that will be approximately the same difference as between ABBA and Metallica (by the way, it was said about Prokofiev that if he had lived in our time, he would have written heavy rock :)). You may not notice this difference as much as their contemporaries – but in a couple of centuries, the difference between our pop music and metal will also be just as imperceptible. It will simply be “music of the late 20th – early 21st century.” :p

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Wistrit

17 years ago

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Could you be more specific about what you mean by "classics are pop music"? And by the way, how much were Mozart and Beethoven, who died in poverty, actually paid? I'm not sure – maybe they were given millions, but they just spent it all on beer.

It's possible.
It's popular, and people often listen to it just because it's "classic," meaning that by default, listening to it makes the listener "smarter" than "all those fans of Russian rock/rap/any kind of music."
Maybe CDs with classical music are given away for free 24 hours a day in Moscow, but unfortunately, that's not the case in other cities.
Are "tributes" being made? No. Are they being sold? Of course. :)
So, "in a way, it's pop music."
That's my opinion.

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Слоныш

17 years ago

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Guys, don't argue! :) Here's some good music to lift your spirits: D :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B11zMLSUI_Y

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kj1313

17 years ago

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Slonysh

Guys, don't argue! :) Here's some good music to lift your spirits :D :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B11zMLSUI_Y

Funny montage))) but the song isn't very good(((

eXeCuToR

17 years ago

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I don't like As I Lay Dying. That kind of metalcore isn't for me. They don't play beautifully enough. Although, this song is more interesting than what I've heard from them before. But in general, yes, it's funny. I've seen similar things on Metallica - So What and Children of Bodom - Silent night, Bodom night.

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Слоныш

17 years ago

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eXeCuToR

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Actually, yes, it's funny. I've seen similar ones for Metallica - So What and Children of Bodom - Silent night, Bodom night.

Yes, Metallica looks better:
Factory!
Whose map is it?!

eXeCuToR

17 years ago

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Yeah) They made the broom really cool, and the song will be more interesting too))

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Слоныш

17 years ago

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WisTrit

She's popular, and people often listen to her simply because it's "classic," which automatically makes the listener "smarter" than "fans of Russian rock/rap/any other music."

Those who listen to classical music out of snobbery rarely go beyond "The Turkish March." It's hard to imagine someone listening to Rachmaninoff's concerts if they don't like symphonic music.
Moreover, the influence of fashion or prestige on musical tastes weakens with age: it's unlikely you'll find 40-year-olds bragging about who has better taste in music. At that age, people compare cars, apartments/houses, and incomes.

WisTrit

Maybe classical music CDs are given away for free 24/7 in Moscow, but unfortunately, this isn't the case in other cities.
Are "tributes" being made? Sure. Are they being sold? Of course.
So, "in a way, it's pop music."
That's my opinion.

And how are music sales related to its author (in the case of classical music)? Does Mozart receive money from the sales of CDs in Moscow? Many classical works didn't bring their authors a single penny. Great composers simply gave music lessons or worked in orchestras; that's how they made a living.
Especially if we're talking about religious music – and most classical composers wrote religious works. Of course, these weren't sold to churches: on the contrary, it was an honor and a joy for the composer that his work was played during services.

How do sales change the genre of a work? One of the most expensive artists, Van Gogh, sold only a couple of paintings during his lifetime. The millions-of-dollars-worth paintings of Gauguin were not wanted by the merchants, with whom Gauguin had nothing to pay with. And did this "alternative" suddenly turn into "pop music" just because it started selling for a fortune? Did the colors in his paintings change?
The same goes for classical music. Great composers, who died in poverty, didn't write their music because it was commissioned and paid for. It's not like Igor Krutoy, who writes-sells-writes-sells... They didn't expect to get rich, let alone simply live off the income from their works.

And what difference does it make who sells their music now and for how much...

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Полосатая

17 years ago

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Hmm...
I don't understand what all the arguing is about. Personally, I can't stick to one genre for very long. And in general, I'm open to anything. Sometimes it's blues, sometimes it's rock... I can't live without the songs of Robbie Williams and Sting, Joe Cocker, and Mylène Farmer (the latter is because I love the French language). O-zone - Dragostea din tei is one of my favorite songs:smile04: But I'd prefer something older; I don't like much of the new stuff.
By the way, Jean-Michel Jarre dominates my playlist:) I love his music. But that's getting off-topic.*going to create a topic about electronic music*

ValgallaWolf

17 years ago

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DDT has a song with the same title, which is pop music, and it clearly expresses that 90% of pop music is created spontaneously and out of nothing, and what people who get involved in this scene turn into. But! Is Technology pop music? I don't know, but I adore this band; their deep lyrics are still far ahead of some rockers. Let's leave retro music alone. Back then, the concept of pop music didn't exist. There was truthful, sometimes simply entertaining and background, beautiful music. P.S. Did Beethoven die in poverty? Come on... On the contrary, he hired an expensive doctor to inject him and apply lead compresses, which, according to the official version, is what caused his death.

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kj1313

17 years ago

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ValgallaWolf

Is technology just pop music? I don't know, but I love this band, and they have deep lyrics that some rockers are still far from achieving.

Reply: Yes, it's Electro-Pop, and if I'm not mistaken, they borrowed a bit of music from Depeche Mode... and lyrics aren't the main thing in rock (at least for me).

ValgallaWolf

Let's leave retro alone. Back then, the concept of "pop" didn't exist. There was just honest, sometimes simply entertaining and background, beautiful music.

What do you mean by the word "retro"? Soul, Jazz, Blues?

Thundax

17 years ago

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Pop music can be considered simply as commercial music (compositions designed to appeal to a wide audience), or it can be a specific genre of music. I enjoy listening to Chinggis Khaan, ABBA, Veselye Rebjata, Plamya, Samotsvety, Sinya Ptitsa, and even Laskovyi Mai. However, I don't listen to, nor do I want to listen to, the music that is played everywhere, constantly repeated, and showcased in performances with backing tracks. This includes both our domestic artists and various Martin and Spears. And I have no desire to listen to the main "fighter" against pop music with a beard, because his songs are meaningless to me; he isn't fighting pop music, he's just being a hipster.
For me, there is no such division between pop and non-pop; there is only what I like a lot, what I like, what's okay, what I don't like, and what's a complete disaster. And I can calmly listen to a mix of Laskovyi Mai, Bi-2, Led Zeppelin, Forest of Shadows, and Jean-Michel Jarre.