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Is this a strict rule? I have the English version, but I wanted to try my luck. Is it allowed?
Well... a couple of days ago, the "story" about this was concluded (which I don't want to remember..., but I still don't understand... whether it's allowed to play on this version at your own risk or not...).
I've checked everything, and the save file is uploaded as always in the administrator section. I really spent a whole 5 hours playing, but that was enough to complete it twice, although I couldn't improve the result much, but nevertheless...
I think many will be shocked to see the results of skilled players on this map;) yasnikov;160062
Is this a strict requirement? I have the English version, and I wanted to try my hand. Is it allowed?
Yes, it is a strict requirement; playing on the English version is prohibited! But, I highly recommend that you buy the Platinum Edition of Heroes from Buku, as it's not expensive, and we would be very happy to see you as one of the contenders for victory!
You can purchase it in almost any store with computer games, or order it online on our website.
I could add a few more details... but it's already a rather sad story.
Just the other day, I found and downloaded the English version 1.1, not the one where the computer drags around dwarves and orcs. And I was even thinking of playing it... but then something terrible happened - the Battle Grounds (that is, the arenas where battles take place) have a different structure in these versions (Buka 1.1 and Original 1.1). Specifically, the trees, craters, and other obstacles are located in different places on the map. This is a very important point, as a large proportion of battles are won by using the terrain to your advantage.
I can add my two cents... but it's a rather sad story. Just the other day, I found and downloaded the English version 1.1, not the one where the computer drags around dwarves and orcs. And I was even thinking of playing on it... but something terrible happened - the Battle Grounds (that is, the arenas where battles take place) have a different structure in these versions (Buka 1.1 and Original 1.1). Specifically, the trees, craters, and other obstacles are located in different places on the map. This is a very important point, as the majority of battles are won by using the terrain to your advantage.
But why did you download the English version when you have a licensed disc from Buka? It's obvious that a licensed product, which in this case is the 1.1 version from Buka, cannot be simply downloaded like its English counterpart. We hold Tournaments not on pirated copies, but exclusively on licensed products! However, in Heroes 1, it is sometimes very difficult to determine which version the game was played on, and without a very thorough check, it is practically impossible to do so! But I hope that you will not promote this fact, but play within the established rules.
I repeat: if, upon checking saves, we detect inappropriate actions by the computer and find out that the player was not playing on the version specified in the rules, their save will be annulled, and the player's reputation on the forum will be negative!
Why did you download the English version when you have a licensed disc from Buka? It is obvious that a licensed product, which in this case is version 1.1 from Buka, cannot be simply downloaded like its English counterpart. We hold Tournaments not on pirated copies, but exclusively on licensed products! However, in Heroes 1, it is sometimes very difficult to determine which version the game was played on, and without a very thorough check, it is practically impossible to do so! But, I hope that you will not promote this fact, but play within the established rules.
I repeat: if inadequate actions of the AI are detected during the save file check, and it is determined that the player was not playing on the version specified in the rules, his save file will be annulled, and the player's reputation on the forum will be negative!
Sincerely, VDV_forever
I think this was done only as an experiment. In other versions of Heroes, the English and Russian versions with the same patches are no different. Here, however, the opposite is true. Moreover, externally they are no different; that is, the AI plays the same way as on the Buka version, but the differences are only on the battlefield. And Sir Kamikaze only wanted to emphasize that playing on the English version 1.1 is also not allowed, just like on the DOS version 1.0, because some battles cannot be won due to the differences in terrain on the Buka version.
to VDV Forever I downloaded it because our translators, like those from Buka, frankly speaking, don't satisfy me with their translation. My level of understanding of the original (English) language of my favorite game is sufficient for enjoyable gameplay... therefore, I don't need Russian licensed versions. But, since there are differences in the gameplay, I will have to struggle with the Russian version... oh well.
I think this was done only as an experiment. In other versions of Heroes, the English and Russian versions with the same patches do not differ in any way. Here, however, the opposite is true. Moreover, externally they are no different, that is, the computer plays the same as on the Book version, but there are differences only in battle. And Sir Kamikaze just wanted to emphasize that it is also impossible to play on the English version 1.1, as well as on the DOS version 1.0, since some battles cannot be won due to differences in terrain on the Book version.
So that such problems and questions would no longer arise, yesterday I corrected point 2 of the rules in the topic:
1.2. Tournaments are held on the Russian version of Heroes 1 from Book.
now it is:
1.2. Tournaments are held on the Russian version of Heroes 1 from Book (playing on the English version of Heroes is prohibited).
Although it seems obvious anyway...
I don't have a habit of running experiments on pirated versions of the game.
Added after 5 minutes Kamikaze;160382
And I was even thinking about playing on it...
It’s strange to hear this from you, especially considering that you are one of the organizers of the Heroes 1 tournaments, and in one of your posts in the tournament for the 1st stage named after Kanighem, you explained to the participants that playing on the English version of Heroes is prohibited! :smile21:
It’s strange to hear that from you, especially considering that you are one of the organizers of Heroes 1 tournaments, and in one of your posts in the tournament for the 1st stage named after Kanighem, you explained to the participants that playing the English version of Heroes is prohibited!
At that time, I didn't know about the English version 1.1, and in the post, I emphasized the version number. In the second and third Heroes games, there are also differences in different versions 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 in HOMM3, and Price of Loyalty also differs from the first release of HOMM2. But between the English and Russian versions, the differences have always been only in the translation... no more, so I was looking for the English 1.1 for HOMM1. And when I found it, I started testing... as a result of which I found differences in the gameplay. Therefore, we prohibit playing not only on 1.0 but also on 1.1 Original (we've really gone too far :rolleyes: ).
I think it would be worth adding the version number to the second point of the rules, on which you can play, because someone might find a Russian version 1.0 on the vast expanses of the internet, and then there will be friction again.
Why did you download the English version when you have a licensed disc from Buka? After all, it is obvious that a licensed product, which in this case is version 1.1 from Buka, cannot be downloaded just like that, like its English counterpart.
Who will stop me from downloading a licensed product from Buka just like that???
At that time, I didn't know about the English version 1.1, and in the post, I focused on the version number.
:) Kamikaze;160991
In the second and third games, there are also differences in the different versions 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 in HOMM3, and Price of Loyalty also differs from the first release of HOMM2. But between the English and Russian versions, the differences have always been only in the translation... no more, which is why I was looking for the English 1.1 for HOMM1. And when I found it, I started testing... as a result of which I found differences in the gameplay. Therefore, we prohibit playing not only on 1.0 but also on 1.1 Original (we've really gone too far :rolleyes: ). I think it would be worth adding the version number to the second point of the rules, on which you can play, otherwise, someone might find a Russian version 1.0 on the vast expanses of the internet, and then there will be friction again.
Thank you for your attention.
And if there are not so many of these versions, but much more, and we just don't know about them, then how do we list them as they appear?
Let's consider such a situation: A player played on a version of the game for which there is no ban specified in the rules, encountered an obvious bug, and sent the save. On the one hand, we cannot refuse to accept the save, since there is no ban on playing in this version in the rules. On the other hand, the bug is obvious, and the save may not be accepted. Therefore, I suggest (I'm so restless:)), rewriting this point of the rules as follows:
1.2. Tournaments are held on the Russian version 1.1 of Heroes 1 from Buki (playing on other versions of the game is prohibited, including English versions).
Everything is clear and understandable:). Kamikaze;160991
But between the English and Russian versions, the differences have always been only in the translation... no more
I wouldn't make such sweeping statements;)
Sincerely, VDV_forever
Kamikaze
18 years ago
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What about mapmaking bugs?
VDV_forever
18 years ago
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Due to forum glitches, I don't have access to many topics and sections, so I can't provide the final results for the 5th stage of the "friendly" tournament, nor can I open other tournaments for Heroes 1.
//Managed to do it somehow//
Sincerely, VDV_forever