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I didn't know that a hero at this level gains such an ability. If so, then the summoned creature is no different from a non-summoned one; the Herald doesn't care, which means the abilities are the same as well.

Can you get the "Banish" ability? (If the hero is level 30, it will deal (30 + Summoning Magic level (max Expert - 3)) * 10 = 330 damage to summoned creatures, which is quite good, especially if there are other summoned creatures besides the Phoenix).
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I didn't know, does a hero at this level get such an ability? Well, if so, then the summoned unit is no different from the non-summoned one; the Herald doesn't care, which means the abilities are the same too.
Read about it in the fan-made manual, version 3.0. Or in some other version. It describes everything in detail. If you have Heroes of Might and Magic III version 3.0, then theoretically this manual should be in the FanDocuments folder.
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With water or cold spells, he doesn't have that much health, so you can kill him with any warrior (or even a hero, if necessary!), or, as many people write, with "Exile"!
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You can defeat him with water or cold spells; he doesn't have that much health, so you can also kill him with any warriors (or even a hero, if necessary!), or, as many people write, with "Exile"!

Not that little at all... He has about 1000 HP!
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And which phoenix are we talking about? If it's a summoned one, then Necropolis with its Undead creatures would be the best choice:). If it's a neutral creature, then defend the archers while attacking the phoenix itself (if you have a cold-slowing spell, cast it on the phoenix to slow it down).


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Which phoenix are we talking about? If it's the summoned one, then Necropolis with its undead creatures is the best choice:). If it's a neutral one, then defend the archers while attacking the phoenix itself (if you have a cold-slowing spell, cast it on the phoenix to slow it down:)).

The TOPIC is in the Haven section...Please write about Haven, it has already been written about undead creatures multiple times..

I found another loophole, using Guardians on the Paladins...They run from a distance, and the hero finishes them off. I had 20 Paladins, they ran across the entire field (with Stone Skin), the hero's attack was 13...The phoenix had 660 HP and died in one hit. I lost five Paladins.
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A level 21 hero completely finishes off a single level 7 creature, even if it has a million hit points. It seems eXeCuToR also affects summoned creatures. I haven't checked, but it should (at least, Lords and Messengers kill them).
The problem is that the summoned phoenix doesn't have level 7. :) This is easily checked by creating a phantom on expert difficulty.
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What's there to think about? Develop Deadly Chill; any ice creature will kill this Phoenix, as well as any developed Ballista, and there won't be any problems.
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The problem is that the summoned phoenix doesn't have level seven. :) This is easy to check by creating a phantom on expert difficulty.
..Exactly! And I was slow to realize it :o. In the manual, it turns out that for level 8, it says the following (excerpts): A level 21 hero cuts 0.103 units of creatures, 31 -
0.150 parts of the creature. Not bad, level eight!
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What's there to think about? Develop Deadly Cold, and any ice creature will kill that Phoenix, as well as any developed Ballista, and there will be no problems.
Yeah. Chaos. Knight. And besides killing Phoenixes (and they are everywhere!:eek:), it's not very useful.
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I understand that summoning is generally not a good choice for Haven... But if you are certain that your opponent will use Phoenix, then if you get a summoning spell, you should definitely upgrade Elemental to surprise your opponent.
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With a good Castle and a 4th-tier Guild, the Ring of Frost is better! :)
Подумайте! Перед тем чтобы что-то делать...:smile39: :smile39:
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Guys, tell me, a newbie, what to use to kill this beast?! Today I was playing against a Necromancer, and the game dragged on a bit, and then we met in an open field. First, this Necromancer summons a Phoenix, which takes down 2 of my Angels with a single attack (I had 5 in total). It deals massive damage, has excellent armor, and a ton of health. Honestly, this Phoenix creates a clear imbalance in summoning magic :(. Need help...
If you're playing as Necromancers, the Death Knights have "Death Grip." If you're playing as Inferno, the Cave Lords have the "Slicing Blade" ability.
If you're playing as Mages, the hero will gain the "Banish" ability when leveling up their summoning magic. Although it's available to heroes of all factions except Barbarians.
If you're playing as Dwarves, I would attack them with Berserkers in abundance, but only if there are many of them.
But I see you're playing as Humans, so attack them with Royal Griffons from your reserves, then with Archers, and then overwhelm them with Paladins... But in general, you should still try to level up summoning magic... like Banish...
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Legolas, you repeated the truth that has already been discussed extensively throughout the entire thread... :)
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