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18 years ago
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18 years ago
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So, as the number of days increases, the factor of free time has a greater impact than skill, and the gap between leaders and outsiders will become even wider.
I think that the skill factor has a much greater impact, especially with more time, because it's much harder to plan, and there are more opportunities to make mistakes... and as can be seen from the post, the gap between leaders and outsiders will be greater - that is, skill will be more evident.
That's why I'm in favor of a shorter period :) even if it only gives a small chance.
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18 years ago
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Kamikaze;136918
I think that the skill factor has a much greater impact, especially over a longer period of time, because planning is much more difficult, and there are more opportunities to make mistakes... and, as can be seen from the post, the gap between the leaders and the outsiders will be greater - that is, skill will be more clearly visible.
That's why I'm in favor of a shorter time :) even if it gives a small chance.

I agree about the combination of time and skill :) And regarding the time limit, I still think it's fine :) After all, everyone will be in equal conditions anyway ;)
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18 years ago
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Take a look. :-)
I hope it meant a clean playthrough in 22 days without losing any of the required army units? Then, respect.
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18 years ago
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I don't know for sure, but you can definitely save up for a set or build/upgrade something during this week!
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18 years ago
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DR28;137005
I hope you meant a clean Walkthrough in 22 days without losing any of the required army? Then, respect.
Simply, Dust has some experience participating in arena tournaments; to put it mildly, the idea of banning the Sphere didn't come out of nowhere. Such a masterful Walkthrough is pointless because after 3 weeks, a Barbarian with a Sphere in his pocket can easily defeat a Mage, even with twice the army size. If I'm not mistaken, the main imbalance in parameters occurs in the first 10 levels; after that, skills grow at roughly the same rate for everyone. If a Sphere is present, the third and fourth skills can be disregarded, so the melee hero immediately has a parameter advantage of 4, which will increase by another 6-8 from level 1 to 11. Then it will continue to increase, but more slowly. That's about 10 in total. If a player was planning to use magic, they would also take the corresponding artifacts, while the player with the Sphere focuses on attack and defense, and can also invest in morale and luck if there's room and they haven't managed to learn the skills, emphasizing visits to the corresponding stat-boosting locations. The result for the Mage's army is usually grim. This leads to the situation where having a Sphere on the map automatically eliminates 2/3 of the heroes and a good third of the artifacts from consideration.
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18 years ago
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Following a series of consultations, the following has been decided:
1. This tournament is the first step in consolidating the Heroes community.
2. We are repeating the precedent from a year and a half ago: two tournaments will be played on two forums using the same save file.
3. Despite the differences in the rules, cross-forum arenas will be possible through mutual agreement.
4. The process of tournament consolidation is planned to be strengthened. In case of positive results, a Three Resources Super Cup may be held on a neutral platform (naturally, with simultaneous play on each of them).
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18 years ago
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As a newcomer, I have a few questions:
1. Does fully revealing a puzzle map mean revealing it completely, or just until the cross appears?
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Reason: discussion of a tournament.

2. Can someone tell me what the criteria are for the hypnosis effect?
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18 years ago
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Qwerty;137172
After a series of consultations, the following was decided:
1. This tournament is the first step in consolidating the Heroes community.
2. We are repeating the precedent from a year and a half ago: two tournaments will be played on one save file, on two forums.
3. Despite the difference in rules, cross-arena matches between forums will be possible by mutual agreement.
4. The process of tournament consolidation is planned to be strengthened. In case of positive results, the possibility of holding a Three Resources Super Cup on a neutral ground is not excluded (of course, with simultaneous play on each of them).
Today, if time allows, I will start the tournament on the League. I hope the players will support the organizers' idea.
Regarding the rules, we will discuss them in private messages; they must be uniform to avoid problems with arena matches between the different resources.
DR28;137270
As a newcomer, I have some questions:
1. Does "full opening of the puzzle map" mean completely, or just when the cross appears?
All obelisks must be visited, i.e., all pieces of the puzzle must be revealed.

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Reason: discussion of the tournament.
This is a discussion of the tournament. Players should independently study the save file and decide what they need and what they don't.

2. What are the criteria for the effect of hypnosis?
If the number of Hit Points (Lives) of the unit on which Hypnosis is cast is less than or equal to, based on the formula 25 HP * Magic Power, then the unit comes under the control of the hero who cast it. Accordingly, the troops should not be specifically targeted.
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So, a topic for the New Year Tournament has been created on the Heroes League. The save file is the same, so it will be easy to compare the results; the question of organization remains open.
In order to fully participate here and there, you need to be registered on both HW and the League. At least, if a player is not "listed" on the League website, I will not be able to add the participant to the tournament grid and award him a rating. Or will we compare them in some other, unofficial way?!
And also, Qwerty, do you register participants in advance? We don't have that practice; we consider all submitted save files. In general, we need to coordinate these points, both with you and with all participants.
Also, clarification and agreement on the rules are required if this idea is continued. For now, the rules you use are posted on the League, in the tournament topic. They contain some minor inaccuracies compared to ours.
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18 years ago
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Is it mandatory to register for the Heroes leagues?
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18 years ago
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Swordsman; 137767
Is it mandatory to register on the Heroes League?
If you want your save to be counted not only within this current tournament but also to be included in the overall inter-resource competition, and if you want to support this idea, then you need to be registered both here and on the League's website! As I mentioned before, I cannot technically record and add the result to the tournament bracket if the person is not registered on the League's website. By the way, registration on the website and the forum is different. P.S. Some players from the Portal and the League have already registered with you. ;-)
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18 years ago
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Oh, I discovered the tournament a bit late.
Never mind :)
Sign me up!

P.S.: Could you tell me where to find a Russian version of the game? I have the English version, and I don't want to bother extracting the Russian text from the map using a hex editor (if this text actually contains useful information, of course - or at least something artistically interesting ;) ).

Cheers! :)
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18 years ago
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1. Sign me up (I need to play as the Barbarian!).
2. I don't understand how the second stage will work.

Let's say I have a special stack with 1 Fairy. It will move before the Archers, and its key role is to block the Archers' stack and prevent them from firing. But here's the thing: will everyone realize how to use the Fairy in this way (or will they intentionally not realize it)? After all, the battle tactics depend on it!
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18 years ago
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Inquisitor;139418
Will everyone figure out how to play as a fairy this way (or will they intentionally not figure it out)? After all, a lot depends on the battle tactics!
The point is that you need to play without "giving in" for both sides - so in your case, for 1 fairy, you will try to use it as intended - and for the other side, you will try to avoid this... but for reliability, the final word still rests with judge Qwerty.
Essentially, the entire second round is 90% a formality - it simply provides some additional experience for the participants - and also helps the judge to study all the battles in more detail, as participants can look at the battles from a different perspective and find something new even for the judge.
P.S. So even if, contrary to the judge, it's not just you who uses the fairy this way, we will file an appeal against the judge's decision - but, of course, it must be provable.

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