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I know a place where you can get 200+ right away, I recommend sending your hero there.
I heard that there is also a one-time payment upon signing the contract, 500-900, depending on the region.

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The slave traders are to blame themselves for stimulating job hopping between companies with their greed and therefore cannot build a decent team on their platform.
80k is actually poverty these days, what can you buy with it? Half or more goes to rent or mortgage, the rest goes to food, you can't even go to a bar.
I agree, but in reality, they don't offer the same 80k in non-IT jobs. At best, 40-60.

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Employers set requirements for junior positions at the level of mid-level positions, but they want to pay the minimum wage and have people work without days off for 12 hours.
Unfortunately, such inadequate people do exist.
In general, the labor market is a mess. And this is not only about IT vacancies. I have a friend who changed 100500 jobs in the field of remote sales. Not because he is lazy, but precisely because they set inadequate requirements, they easily "lay off" (which, at the level of self-employment, means "get lost"), and they cheat on salaries. In 2021-2022, the situation was radically different.

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Since we're talking about work here. I worked as a loader, 50 rubles/hour, I didn't complain and bought myself a tablet.
In what year did they pay so little? Even I had 230/hour in a call center in 2020.
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I heard there's also a one-time payment upon signing the contract, ranging from 500 to 900, depending on the region.
Personally, I received 0. Glory to Russia!
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You probably didn't even get a decent salary.
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I agree, but in reality, non-IT jobs don't offer 80k. At best, it's 40-60.
Russia has three paths: webcam, begging, and IT.
Well, now there are four – thanks to the President, his subordinates, and the entire national idea.
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If we're talking about work, I worked as a loader, 50 rubles/hour, and I didn't complain, and I bought myself a tablet.

And by the way, I also have a real Swiss Diablo watch.
Here, a normal, non-toxic person lives and doesn't complain. There should be more like him, and fewer "chusik" types.
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Alas, such inadequate people do exist.
In general, the job market is in a bad state. And this is not just about IT vacancies. I have a friend who has changed 100500 jobs in the field of remote sales. Not because he is a lazy bum, but precisely because they set unrealistic requirements, easily "lay off" people (which, at the level of self-employment, means "get lost"), and cheat on salaries. In 2021-2022, the situation was radically different.
Here, you understand and can empathize. Now, mentally transfer the situation to the relationship market. It's the same there, even worse. A woman is an EMPLOYER, a man is an EMPLOYEE. And in this context, it doesn't matter who is to blame and what to do. It just happened that way, and it will only get worse over time.

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Personally, I got 0. Glory to Russia!
What do you mean? You wrote that you earned 3 million.

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Here, a normal person, not a "black sheep," lives and doesn't complain.
Much knowledge brings much sorrow, and the one who increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Wait, did they promise you something before you signed, and then they screwed you over? Or did they not promise anything from the start?
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Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
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Wait, did they promise you something before you signed up, and then screw you over? Or did they not promise anything from the start?
They promised to give you a hard time, that's all they promised back in my day. Whoever they promised something to was a lazy, soy-drinking loser who didn't get off his ass and join the fun, but instead sat on his couch until the bitter end. Our whole group condemns such people; they're immediately sent to the front lines.
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someone whose bones and joints were shattered, but who survived to tell the tale.
As for us, in most such cases, they pay 10-20 dollars a month 😀 No joke.
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Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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And in most of these cases, we pay 10-20 dollars a month? It's no joke.
God is showing who is fighting for the right cause.
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Personally, I received 0. Glory to Russia!
They didn't offer anything at first. I think these kinds of promotions started last year.

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They promised to give you nothing, that's all they promised in my time. Those who were promised something were lazy soy-drinking losers who didn't get up and join the fight when things were at their peak, but instead sat on their couch until the very end. Our whole group condemns such people; we send them straight to the meat grinder.
Well, here. What can you say? The idea of fighting for money is also an idea.

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Exactly, you understand and can empathize. Now, mentally transfer this situation to the relationship market. It's the same thing there, even worse. A woman is the EMPLOYER, and a man is the EMPLOYEE. And in this context, it doesn't matter who is to blame or what to do. It just happened this way, and it will only get worse over time.
I'm not arguing that in many cases, the transition from the status of "just acquaintances" and "just friends" is more often determined by the woman. But in reality, it's not a one-sided game, and "employers" more often encounter "employees" who are looking for "temporary work" for one or two nights and don't want serious and responsible "working" relationships. Not to mention the "watermeloners," jerks, and henpecked husbands (some people actually like that). And let's not forget about situations where the "employee's" mother interferes in the "work process" and ruins everything. Contrary to the old jokes about mothers-in-law, the mothers of "employers" less often create problems.
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You might think that employers aren't looking for workers for just a day or two; they're looking for new employees every day.
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I agree, but in reality, they don't offer 80k for non-IT jobs. At best, it's 40-60.
They do offer it, why not? The entry barrier might seem higher, but you just argued that no one is waiting for you in IT after completing courses, so it doesn't matter in the end...
 

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One might think that employers aren't looking for workers for just a day or two, but they are, every single day.
They are. But usually, it's clearer that it's a civil law contract with temporary employment.
Besides, there are also dishonest employees and employers. They have several employers/employees at the same time, but they assure each one that they are the only one.
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More like an MPH contract, lol, got it? 🤣🤣🤣
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But there are also dishonest employees and employers. They have several employers/employees at the same time, but they assure each one that they are the only one.
Well, this isn't exactly a problem if the work is "clean," and a contract is what's expected. If, however, the plan involves a long-term, formal employment contract under these conditions, then there is usually no such "warm-up" period, and both parties understand this in advance. What else could you expect when someone takes on an obviously temporary position?
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The problem is that sometimes the job postings and interviews are so misleading that it clouds people's judgment, and no one notices this high turnover rate.
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