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So, an IT specialist is worse than a prostitute, because the latter sells herself for a fixed price.

Nebok is right. Sir, have you never worked in sales?

What's more, nowadays, most companies use AI to filter candidate applications, and this filtering is often done poorly. And sometimes, the HR manager doesn't even know about the existence of the ideal candidate simply because the robot won't let it through to them.

In the sense of deliberate price dumping, of course not, if you meant guilt in this context. I just used the term incorrectly.

Medj, don't exaggerate. You made a funny point about working well. In an ideal world, that's how it would be. The main goal is to make a profit. That's it. It doesn't matter how. If profit can be made by selling the lowest quality product, most entrepreneurs won't care about anything else. And I'm not even mentioning the fact that not all owners can or want to control their business; this function is often performed by managers, who, by the way, may have their own goals.

I'll say more: the main goal is to get as much money as possible for oneself; profit is not necessarily a condition for this.

Sky understands. Sir, have you never worked in sales?

The initial selection is done by an HR person with psychology courses under their belt, who takes into account the importance of the zodiac sign and does a tarot card reading. It's a whole separate topic.

So, unfortunately, in the current reality, the salary is formed not only by the employer's offer but also by how well the employee "sells" themselves.

But even so, there were some funny things when looking for a job. I apply to one company for the position of content manager, and they reply: no, you don't suit us; maybe we'll hire you in the records management department? Guys, if I have records management listed in my work experience, and I'm looking for a content manager position, what does that say? I laughed and ignored these smart guys.

What do you mean? You can negotiate with them and lower the price.

I can't say I've seen much in life, but I haven't encountered anything in the IT industry like, for example, "a recruiter checks a candidate's social media profile, how many friends and photos they have" or "selection based on zodiac sign." More often, the opposite happens – they don't filter properly, sending out applications from 2010 or with a clear mismatch with the basic requirements. To be fair, I've also seen good recruiters.
But... again, I won't argue, the typical situation might be different. This is just my experience.

Well, yes, but this is true for specialists at a higher level. And we were just talking about junior developers who "undercut" prices. And people who can't sell themselves because they send out a lot of applications for very little money. And the employer sets a low rate.

I would take a simpler approach to this and even see it positively, even if they clearly ignored your requirements.
In general, this means that your application was good. And that there are not "HR bots" on the other side, but people who care about the result. It is also difficult for them to find a good employee; it is a rare commodity. So you are good, they tried to offer you something, and an attempt is not a torture.

I'm good, they're bad. I didn't specifically aim to get into that company; my priority was the position and the field of work. If they can't offer me what I want, let them go to hell; I wasn't desperate at that point. I wanted to pretend to be naive and write, "I'm not interested in this, but I'd like to apply for your great position," but I got lazy. I don't remember if I had already submitted five more applications or if I had already found a more interesting opportunity. Maybe this approach works for some people, but not for me. I prefer to decide for myself what I need. I've had enough of others making decisions for me.

That's it, I'm unsubscribing from this thread. It's even worse than the one about moods...