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Offline Ment
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You asked me to make a list of suspects?
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I think it's time to reread the topic and create a table...
Sorry if it's not clear, I'm asking again.
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Also based on the "clue" from Master?
Partly, yes, but mostly not. Psychology, the method of elimination, call it what you want.
However, Yashchur, creating your own personal list of suspects is also perfectly acceptable.
 

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Evil Lizard
What kind of substances are you taking?Your clue is fake. As a Mafia member, I wouldn't kill Grande while Balzac is still alive. It doesn't make sense to me.

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Also, based on the "clue" from the Master?

What's so illogical about it?
You were blocked in the first night; they probably won't block you again in the second night, so you can go kill without fear of being blocked.
The order of night actions doesn't really affect the kill.
The Maniac doesn't have a standard kill, and the chance of stealing is low.
The second action from the Mafia is a block, so there's no difference in who goes to kill.
It's not very efficient to accumulate clues on one player.
Unless Grande's additional action is slightly more useful towards the end of the game.
What logic am I missing?
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Offline Драккошка
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I've always thought that it's more beneficial for mages to focus on getting kills individually...
А, вот почему.

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Are you a cop, little one?
Are you a cop, little one?
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Cop, are you saying you’re not useful to the city? And do you know who else isn’t useful to the city?
А, вот почему.

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What's illogical about that?
You got blocked on the first night; they're unlikely to block you again on the second night, so you can go kill without worrying about being blocked.
The order of night actions doesn't really affect anything in terms of killing; the Killer doesn't have a standard kill, and the chance of stealing is low.
The Mafia's second action is a block, so there's no difference here either in who goes to kill.
It's not very useful to accumulate clues on one player.
Unless Grande's extra action is slightly more useful towards the end of the game.
What logic did I miss?
You missed the fact that the Lizard Mafia reasons differently than the Master Mafia.
The Master Mafia thinks that
It's not very useful to accumulate clues on one player.
But the Lizard Mafia always strives for a quick shift in the vote count, so it believes that it's not very useful to reveal Grande with a clue. In the event of a quick elimination of the blocker and the Killer, stealing the vote along with Gorio's kill almost guarantees the Mafia's victory. Balzac is of little use, considering that the Mafia preferred blocks over checks.

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However, Lizard, forming your own list of suspects is also not prohibited.
I don't have the right herbs to digest the contents of the newspapers... :(

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Lizard, are you a Mir?
Mir. And you?
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Evil Lizard
You missed the point that Lizard-maf reasons differently than Master-maf.
Master-maf believes that Lizard-maf always strives for a quick shift in the vote count, so he thinks it's not very effective to target Grande with evidence. In the case of quickly eliminating a blocker and a killer, stealing her vote along with the kill from Gorio almost guarantees victory for the mafia. Balzac is of little use, considering that the mafia preferred blocks over investigations.

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I don't have the right herbs to digest the contents of the gossip columns...

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Mirok. And you?

Well, it depends on the level of evidence. Evidence in the first night has virtually no chance of being deciphered. And getting blocked not only moves you away from the goal of numerical superiority but also risks losing one of your teammates.
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I missed it, is Yaschur going to execute Mental there or what?
А, вот почему.

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Offline Злобный Ящур
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Oh! Here's another crazy theory.
Yesterday, a player was exploring Master-Gorio. The players decided to use a check instead of a block to set me and Fragment up. Like, there's no block against exploration, blah blah blah.... They sent Master to be killed. And then, surprise: Master is blocked, Fragment is killed by the player, and the newspaper shows 3 blocks: Master from the exploration, and Medj from Seliga and the player.
Master, how do you like it?:D
Crazy or not, I think the level of craziness here is definitely lower than in the legend from Heaven...

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I missed it, is Yashchur going to execute Mental or what?
On what basis?
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
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Yeah, that's great.
Kosh and Neyra reacted calmly.

Okay, the idea was good. It was difficult for me to be targeted anyway, because I have two blocks, and the whole theory quickly fell apart. Unfortunately, not many Mafia members were caught.
I wouldn't really believe in Ment being Mafia either; I would prefer to pay attention to other voters. But on the other hand, such an intelligent person as Ment couldn't possibly fall for this theory, unless it was intentional. Cancel Kosh's execution, execute Ment.

For comparison: Kosh, for whom I voted, strongly supported me, and Neyra also supported me, even though I'm digging up evidence against her.
Ment
Basically, I thought I understood, but now I understand that I didn't. I won't make things more complicated by adding my own thoughts.
I think it's time to state the full version of the logic behind your vote. This is important.

Now, I'm addressing Master. There's a high probability that Master is Mafia, but just in case he's a peacefully playing town member...
Every vote is important to us; there are few town members left. If I'm Mafia, then the serial killer definitely has a night-kill ability.
Look, option 1: you're town, the serial killer visited you, and I have two blocks – one from town and one from my fellow Mafia members, perhaps?)
Option 2: you're town, the serial killer visited me; if I'm Mafia, then he has a night-kill ability. Why didn't he kill during the second night? (only you and I were blocked). It doesn't add up.

Besides, if Yaschur and I are both Mafia, then it turns out that anyone can vote in the discussion, except for the Mafia (my vote was on the side, on Kosh; Yaschur didn't vote at all, and the town is essentially playing on its own here).
In general, go ahead, review your theories, stop focusing on Yaschur, and please name a couple more Mafia candidates.

Moni, please tell me, based on your experience, does Master usually play like this as a town member, or does he play much more actively? Don't you find Master suspicious?

В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.

I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better

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Offline Злобный Ящур
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And so, Heroes of Might and Magic Online?..
I'm still thinking about it.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
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