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#54
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I tried playing, but I got stuck on the second mission. I don't have the patience to keep replaying battles 10 times, trying to get lucky with the initial setup like Remix does. Okay, I tried playing as the "Warrior" - I didn't see any difference in the initial setup. Playing with cheats is completely absurd. Therefore, in my opinion, your creations, Andrey, are undoubtedly very good, but they are designed for a very limited audience - you could say, "professional" players. As far as I know, there are many ways to provide for the difficulty of the initial setup to depend on the game level. If you do this, I think the number of people playing your maps/scenarios will increase dramatically. Good luck with your undoubtedly important and great work in mapmaking!
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vadim_t
I tried playing, but got stuck on the second mission. I don't have the patience to keep trying for good starting conditions like Remix does, and replaying battles 10 times. Okay, I tried playing as a "Warrior" - I didn't see any difference in the initial setup. Playing with cheats is completely absurd.
Therefore, in my opinion, your creations, Andrey, are undoubtedly very good, but they are aimed at a very limited audience - you could say, "professional" players. As far as I know, there are many ways to provide for the difficulty of the initial setup to depend on the game level. If you do this, I think the number of people playing your maps/scenarios will increase dramatically.
Good luck with your undoubtedly useful and great work in mapmaking!
Thank you for trying. Based on the bugs and shortcomings found, I will continue working on the overall balance of the missions. To avoid such mistakes in the next campaign, I think I will resort to the now-forgotten help of testers (if they can be found, of course).
Сценарий: "Наследие прошлого"
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Новый порядок", "Серый Альянс""Поиски Истины"

Трейлер №2 кампании "Дыхание Пустоты": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkHKXk5BctA&ab_channel=%D0%90ndrei_21

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In any case, I'm giving it a thumbs up!
There are very few people who create maps for Heroes 5, and even fewer who create campaigns.

For now, I can say this: I didn't complete the first mission xD.
I basically lost almost all my archers fighting various Jarls/Arkat priests, and during the city siege, the remaining 30 were quickly finished off by the towers and Jarls using their ability.

The most important thing I felt I lacked in this mission was either having machines available from the start (a tent and a cart) or a machine depot to buy them. The tent would have helped me recover from losses, and the cart would have prevented me from losing the ability to shoot, which is what happened (((

So, here's the feedback from this player: "There needs to be a way to acquire machines in the first mission."
(My build, yes, yes, skilled machines with a tent, but without the tent, but who knew it wouldn't be possible to get it?)


I'll try again later...
Or maybe you'll take the machine issue into account and release an updated version of the first mission in the future. Then I can try it again with more comfortable conditions =)
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Anyway, I'm giving it a thumbs up!
There are very few people who create maps for Heroes 5, and even fewer who create Campaigns.

For now, I can say this: I didn't complete the first mission xD.
I basically lost almost all my archers fighting various Jarls/Arcan priests, and during the siege of the city, the remaining 30 were quickly finished off by towers and Jarls using their ability.

The most important thing I lacked in this mission was either having machines available from the start (tent and cart) or a machine depot to buy them. The tent would have helped me recover from losses, and the cart would have prevented me from losing the ability to shoot, which is what happened (((

In general, here's my feedback: "there needs to be a way to acquire machines in the first mission."
(my build, yes, yes, skilled machines with a tent, but without the tent, but who knew you couldn't get it?)


I'll try again later...
Or maybe you'll take the machine issue into account and release an updated version of the first mission in the future. Then I can try it again with more comfortable conditions =)
Thank you for the Walkthrough. Balancing is probably the most difficult part of this. Until the "golden mean" is reached between hardcore gameplay and comfort, I will continue to refine the Campaign.
Сценарий: "Наследие прошлого"
Кампании:
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Новый порядок", "Серый Альянс""Поиски Истины"

Трейлер №2 кампании "Дыхание Пустоты": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkHKXk5BctA&ab_channel=%D0%90ndrei_21

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Leonion

And what did you use to attack? The Academy or demons?

The main striking force was the mages. Three Castles with a bunch of outposts and the ability to quickly place the Tear of Ashera (I had it on the surface, next to the second Academy Castle) leaves no doubt as to who is in charge. The demon was listlessly digging around in the basement. An army for him was gathered slowly, resources were spent on building the magic Castle. The biggest difficulty was that the Academy units don't want to move quickly. For most of the game, I was searching for where that Faiz was hiding.

Regarding the Throne of Elements. I cleared the map with almost the starting army. I captured all the Orc Castles and the blue Castle. When I reached the Elves, my largest stack consisted of about fifteen Adepts (without griffins, unicorns, and seraphs). All of this was easily defeated by three tiers of Necromancer units. Then, before finishing the map, I visited him with the final army just to see what would happen... It turned out that nothing would happen - just an addition to the army, which was already huge. I missed out on troops more because I couldn't train in two Castles at the same time.

Andrei_21
The bug in the fifth mission can be avoided.

For this, you just need to know that it is a bug, and not the author's intention. And the shamanic ritual with reloading the game didn't work for me either; the heroes didn't appear in the tavern.

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Andrei_21

To avoid such mistakes in the next campaigns, I think I'll resort to the now-forgotten help of testers (if any can be found).
I'm ready to be one, as I will express the opinion of new players. I have some experience in this kind of work with old mapmaking masters.
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And the shamanic ritual with restarting the game didn't work for me either; the heroes didn't appear in the tavern.

I'm already thinking about how to solve this problem.
Vadim_t, once I finish the new campaign, I'll create a topic for testers on the forum.

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Walkthrough of the "New Order" campaign by Waterfall_13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVJ5r9VaEo4&ab_channel=Waterfall
Сценарий: "Наследие прошлого"
Кампании:
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Новый порядок", "Серый Альянс""Поиски Истины"

Трейлер №2 кампании "Дыхание Пустоты": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkHKXk5BctA&ab_channel=%D0%90ndrei_21

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Andrei_21

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Walkthrough of the "New Order" campaign by Waterfall_13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVJ5r9VaEo4&ab_channel=Waterfall

Wow, that was fast! I didn't even post it anywhere.

Well, I wanted to say that I managed to complete the first mission on "Veteran" difficulty.
But I completely failed the second one; the AI just crushed me. I'm playing with this AI:


In general, I can say that I really liked the first mission.
But I honestly didn't like the start of the second mission at all. There's a huge problem with ore =)
The starting location is quite poor for PVE content (neutrals).

To be fair, I should say that what I'm playing is different from what the author of the "balance" intended, because in Armageddon's Blade there are significant and not-so-significant nuances.
I think on the snowy map, wolves guard the arena =). But I have paoka... because of the makeshift method of adding blood for Tier 6 creatures of the Horde.
And in the second mission, minotaurs guarded Inferno, but for me, they are not Tier 3 creatures, but Tier 5, like in Heroes 3. So, it's a bit more challenging =)

In general, I'll try to beat it (the second mission)... probably already as a Warrior, because on Veteran, the AI just overwhelmed me through the garrison xD
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Waterfall_13

Wow, that was fast! I haven't even posted it anywhere yet.

Well, I wanted to say that I managed to complete the first mission on "Veteran" difficulty.
But I completely failed the second one; the AI just crushed me. I'm playing with this AI:


In general, I can say that I really enjoyed the first mission.
But I honestly didn't like the starting conditions of the second mission at all. There's a huge shortage of ore =)
The starting location is quite poor for PvE content (neutrals).

To be fair, what I'm experiencing is different from the author's intended "balance" because Armageddon's Blade has its own significant and not-so-significant nuances.
I think on the snowy map, wolves guard the arena =). But I have Paoka, due to the makeshift method of adding blood for Tier 6 creatures of the Horde.
And in the second mission, Minotaurs guarded Inferno, but for me, they are not Tier 3 creatures, but Tier 5, like in Heroes 3. So, it's a bit more challenging =)

In general, I'll try to beat it (the second mission)... probably already as a Warrior, because on Veteran, the AI just overwhelmed me through the garrison xD

To be honest, the second mission is the most difficult. The AI is already very strong, and with the mod, it's even worse. It's good that the campaign even works on the Heroes 5 Armageddon's Blade mod.
Сценарий: "Наследие прошлого"
Кампании:
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Новый порядок", "Серый Альянс""Поиски Истины"

Трейлер №2 кампании "Дыхание Пустоты": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkHKXk5BctA&ab_channel=%D0%90ndrei_21

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Andrei_21

To be honest, the 2nd mission is the most difficult. The AI is already tough, and with the mod, it's even more challenging. It's good that the campaign even works with the Heroes 5 Armageddon's Blade mod.

Well, nothing surprising really.
The mod doesn't have any scripts, except for the modified .Exe file from Deflaktor, so basically everything is the same as in the vanilla game, except for the content, which is much more abundant.
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Well, there's nothing surprising about it.
The mod doesn't have any scripts, except for the modified .Exe file from Deflaktor, so the mod is basically the same as the vanilla version, except for the content, which is much more extensive.

Here's a tip for the second mission: you need to take at least one castle from the AI. Then, the rest of the game will be much easier.
Сценарий: "Наследие прошлого"
Кампании:
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Новый порядок", "Серый Альянс""Поиски Истины"

Трейлер №2 кампании "Дыхание Пустоты": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkHKXk5BctA&ab_channel=%D0%90ndrei_21

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A new version of the Campaign has been released: Version 1.5:
In the second mission, difficulty scaling has been added (the higher the difficulty, the faster the AI will act), and the starting bonus has been changed. Some artifacts are now prohibited.
In the third mission, a bug where buildings were not destroyed when a choice was made has been fixed. The final boss has been strengthened.
In the fourth mission, explanatory text has been added. Bugs with the Necropolis city and lighting have been fixed. The amount of experience required for the ritual has been increased.
In the fifth mission, a bug with hiring heroes has been fixed. Kurak has been significantly strengthened.
The installation order for the Campaign has been changed.

I apologize for the bugs that you discovered while playing. I worked tirelessly for a week to fix them. Just in case, I advise you to check everything again.
I wish you all a good game!
Сценарий: "Наследие прошлого"
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Новый порядок", "Серый Альянс""Поиски Истины"

Трейлер №2 кампании "Дыхание Пустоты": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkHKXk5BctA&ab_channel=%D0%90ndrei_21

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This is what Defender showed me when I was downloading the new version of the campaign today...
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Today, Defender flagged this when I was downloading the new version of the campaign...
Okay, I specifically re-checked with an antivirus, and the problem lies in the .exe file. Without it, it shows that the file is clean. I checked both online and with Avast. Therefore, I'm now checking my computer for their presence (just in case) and, if everything is okay, I'll re-upload it with manual installation.

UPD: Now I'm 100% sure that the problem is in the .exe file. I've checked everything three times, and there are no viruses. However, I will replace this installation method with a manual one.

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The most interesting thing is that the antivirus complains about the self-extracting archive created through WinRAR, but doesn't react to the same archive, only made through 7-zip. Therefore, all the complaints from antiviruses are most likely unfounded.
Сценарий: "Наследие прошлого"
Кампании:
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Новый порядок", "Серый Альянс""Поиски Истины"

Трейлер №2 кампании "Дыхание Пустоты": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkHKXk5BctA&ab_channel=%D0%90ndrei_21

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Andrei_21

Okay, I specifically re-checked with an antivirus, and the problem lies in the .exe file. Without it, the antivirus reports that the file is clean. I checked both online and with Avast. Therefore, I'm now checking my computer for their presence (just in case), and if everything is fine, I'll re-upload it with manual installation.

UPD: Now I'm 100% sure that the problem is in the .exe file. I've checked everything three times, and there are no viruses. However, I will replace this installation method with a manual one.

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The most interesting thing is that the antivirus complains about the self-extracting archive created through WinRAR, but doesn't react to the same archive, only made through 7-zip. Therefore, all the complaints from antiviruses are most likely unfounded.

Now it downloads without any problems. To be honest, self-extracting archives are... I have doubts about the need to download an executable file without any antivirus... Well, since I've never seen any messages on the forum like "what should I do with the archive" - zip or something else is better. At worst, you can always check the archive file before extracting it.
And - thank you!