Knights of Tezoth

Why the hell not? So he's sitting there camouflaged, hiding in some cover, and supposedly doesn't see that an opponent is about to crash into him, and can't duck to let him pass peacefully?

Not a single move has been replayed.

Do I understand correctly that from now on we will see all NPCs of the GM on the map who have gone invisible, but we just won't be able to target them without first revealing them? So that we can deliberately step onto their cell and expose them, since the GM/judge has that ability? Because that's not fair at all if not.

The GM said so.

No, you understand incorrectly. It will be as it was before.

Well, a delightful mechanic and a brawl, what can I say. The Lizardman can specifically reveal me, but I can't do the same to him. So I moved under F. I'll edit the post now and make it official.

Done. The player said so.

Technically, Lock moved first and didn't redo anything.

Yashchur made a mistake by accident, and I think everyone here will agree that he is doing more for this fight than all of us combined, so there's no point in discussing how he's being unfair, playing favorites with the GM's characters, and so on. Such an opinion would simply be unjust. I've already stated which position I disagree with, but otherwise Yashchur is a champ.

I believe that in this situation, it would be fair not to have Lorican reveal Lester's invisibility spot. Because otherwise it would be extremely unfair, primarily towards Locken. This was never discussed before, and the players hadn't baited the invisibility users earlier.

By that logic, we could redo a ton of battles. For example, the Northerners.

It would have been better to give invisibility a time limit. As it is, it feels unfair.

Besides, this game mechanic was never specified anywhere.

By that logic, battles in the tournament with invisibility should have been conducted not on the principle of: "Lester walks and walks — bam, rips off the character's face." But rather on the principle of Mafia, where players send messages in PM. The difference being that at the end of a round, the open player's move is displayed, and Lester knows where the opponent is right now, while the player who will search for him next does not. The fights would have been insanely drawn out, but in accordance with such a game mechanic — fair.

No need to overcomplicate things. If a move was made with a heal toward the Invisible One — the heal was used, the movement was prematurely ended, the Invisible One was revealed. Actions like "well, if that's the case, then actually I moved differently" are obviously not accepted.

What is this even about, if I was originally standing to the right of F? How did he reveal me? Stop gaslighting me.

Imagined it? What do you mean, imagined it? Am I supposed to accept a result that was imagined?

Fine, I don't care anymore. If you want, kill me right now, with OD wasted just because Yashchuru wanted to win — not even for himself; do whatever you want, position me wherever you need, just so this fight ends.

But the next time an enemy NPC goes invisible and isn't rendered on the map — I'll unleash such a storm that you'll regret it, I'll drop the entire game. I'll get your bank card details and deposit ten rubles into it, just so you understand.

This is all — not right.

The issue here isn't that he initially went somewhere or didn't go, but that Yashchur messed up, and as a result, the player's character suffers. That's unfair.

From what was written in the thread, I understand the situation as follows:

- The character was moving to point X, which fell within the route of the NPC's next move, leading to the end of invisibility.

- Yashchur mistakenly placed the character at point Y (because it seemed to him that he was going there), which was not on that route, but promptly corrected it and placed him at the originally stated point X.

If that's really how it happened, then I don't see what the problem is. If not, then someone will have to explain what exactly the issue is.

Finally, Revan started showing some balls and doing something in this fight. I've been waiting for this for 10,000 posts!

Does anyone remember this person?

Loken's opinion that the battle host might deliberately expose him has two problems:

a) the GM could also do this, and aside from trusting in their integrity, there are simply no other options

b) an assassin does not create a zone of exclusion around itself that no NPC can enter. If there is additional reasoning for why the NPC moved there, then that's it, gg. Questions can only arise if the NPC made a completely pointless move straight to the assassin.

Well, no.

I'm waiting for all the NPC invisibles of Revanland to be drawn in future battles, otherwise I'm so done with this.

He's sitting invisible, sees a guy coming at him, obviously he's not just standing there grinning, waiting to be bumped into and then going "Hey there!".

It won't be possible to reveal invisibility through moves; NPCs will reveal it through skills/equipment. But honestly, it is indeed strange to reveal it through moves. NPCs already have an advantage by default, why give them even more? So that anyone, even without spending AP, can reveal an invisible unit? Dunno, then invisibility becomes a completely pointless skill.