Mafia 109. Dreams of the Void Warriors — Mafia

ToX

11/16/2020 5:55 PM UTC

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Okay, let's analyze.

-1. The First Warrior uses their ultimate ability. - They didn't use it. By the way, Nebo, does the Night Detective (ND) display nicknames?
3. Blocks Despair. - Fragment.
4. Protects Happiness. - Count.
9. Kills the Third Warrior. - Lizardman. Lizardman is Despair. Mighty Hands is clearly the Third Warrior, meaning the Mafia killed without blocking anything. Therefore, their second ND is a check.
10. Checks the status of Despair (displayed as a fact), 11. Checks the status of the First Warrior (displayed as a fact), 12. Checks the status of Ataraxia (displayed as a fact) - two checks, one of which is almost certainly Mafia. Nebo, my dear, how did you decide to display the checks in the end? The same way? Should we try to delve into the lore with the girls and figure out who is responsible for which check?
13. Heals / Resurrects Pleasure (displayed only when necessary). - Didn't hit.

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Another question for Nebo - how is an ND displayed when it's directed at a player who is ignoring it?

kcfgogbfalgfl

11/16/2020 6:03 PM UTC

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I generally don't like mages who don't deal damage. If you're given a damage-dealing role, you should start dealing damage right away.

As a damage-dealing character in the early days of the game, I can confirm this.

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Небо

11/16/2020 6:03 PM UTC

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By the way, Nebo, does this ND display with nicknames?

It displays as a fact, without nicknames.

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Nebo, my dear, how did you ultimately decide to display the checks? Identically?

Not identically.

Author

Another question for Nebo - how is the ND displayed when directed at a player who ignores it?

If it's not a block, it's not displayed at all.

Don't call me "my dear."

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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ToX

11/16/2020 6:09 PM UTC

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Okay, sorry.

Thanks for the answers! Now we'll think about it.

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Alright, guys, I think I understand now.

Check 1

Chantel Bocasso was closely monitoring one of the patients. Her dark eyes were so intrusive that it seemed she was ready to devour the object of her observation.

Check 2

Bella Massolini was even more tactless; she sat directly opposite one of the patients, began to observe, and started writing something in her notebook as if it were her last chance to do what she had to do.

I would say that this looks like quite desperate actions.

So, we don't have Ataraxia. Anywhere. And there are three options here. Either she redirected and got killed in the east, or she redirected and checked Pain, which that night chose to ignore her and got killed (this option is also possible for the killing), or she was in the block, and then it's a Fragment.

kcfgogbfalgfl

11/16/2020 6:12 PM UTC

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Look at the eyes of the First Warrior.

And hers don't seem to be black either...

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ToX

11/16/2020 6:13 PM UTC

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But for her, they don't seem to be black...

Well, Sky said there would be a difference in the descriptions...

Граф Орлов

11/16/2020 6:16 PM UTC

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This is a possible scenario. Alternatively, one could be consumed by despair, but then where would the second connection lead?

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Either she redirected and was killed in the East Zone, or she redirected and checked the Pain, which that night chose to ignore her and was killed (this option is also possible for the killing),

Considering the Pain's ignore in the East Zone, the chances of both are 1/12, by the way.

E si sui vius, er mi grans benananza,
e si ieu muoir, er mi grans deliuriers
Deep Dark Fantasies:
Зуриха -- Оттар -- Кассий -- Вольдемар -- Харген -- Тифа -- Сандар-Эйдан --
Квенты -- Локации -- НПС -- Статус --

ToX

11/16/2020 6:33 PM UTC

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Well, basically, if black eyes really mean Ataraxia, then I don't see any reason why the Mafia wouldn't have used a check along with the 3rd kill. That would mean Fragment could be the 1st.

In any case, whoever he is, I'm starting a thread to execute Fragment.

Граф Орлов

11/16/2020 6:40 PM UTC

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Let's execute him before he gets protection from execution.
Execute Fragment.

E si sui vius, er mi grans benananza,
e si ieu muoir, er mi grans deliuriers
Deep Dark Fantasies:
Зуриха -- Оттар -- Кассий -- Вольдемар -- Харген -- Тифа -- Сандар-Эйдан --
Квенты -- Локации -- НПС -- Статус --

In reply to MasteR

kcfgogbfalgfl

11/16/2020 6:42 PM UTC

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MasteR

Hmm...

Iranian-Byzantine War - Gumilev, Lev Nikolaevich - Turks - Tamerlane - Day Watch - Gorod 312 - Aya (Svetlana Nazarenko)

Reverse order:

Aya (Svetlana Nazarenko) - Gorod 312 - Day Watch - Tamerlane - Turks - Gumilev, Lev Nikolaevich - Iranian-Byzantine War

Execute Nefelu for now. I'll try other options.

How can I transition from Gumilev to the war?

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MasteR

11/16/2020 6:42 PM UTC

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In short, I looked through the remaining clues as best as I could (I always try to decipher a clue). My brain is already fried from the sheer number of wiki pages.
I couldn't find anything useful. The closest option was with Alex's clue:

Romanov, Ivan Nikitich - Philaret - Russian Orthodox Church - Byzantium

But there's no clear connection to the war from there, and the link seems too simple overall; I'm not sure. I probably won't revisit the clues today or tomorrow.
I wanted to write about the absence of the third check in the newspaper, but it's already been discussed. When a clue from the killer appears, I'll first guess it's from Fragment, as it's the most likely option for now.

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In reply to kcfgogbfalgfl

MasteR

11/16/2020 6:49 PM UTC

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Dún Scáith

How do you transition from Gumilev to war?

Good question, I've already forgotten exactly how I did it. I think I went directly from the Turks, without Gumilev.

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kcfgogbfalgfl

11/16/2020 6:53 PM UTC

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If it weren't for this particular detail, the solution would sound good, but in this version, it doesn't seem very reliable.

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MasteR

11/16/2020 7:03 PM UTC

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Although, probably through the **Byzantine-Turkic alliance**, it transitioned from Gumilev.

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Yes, the Turkic Khaganate - the Byzantine-Turkic alliance - was a period of war.

The reverse path seems a bit long, but it's not that important if the solution isn't made more difficult because of it. At least for me, it wouldn't be an obstacle to finding a clue; I don't know how it is for Neba.

macca

11/16/2020 7:09 PM UTC

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Wow, I thought I could join the discussion in this mafia game, but I have the feeling that I'm a step behind all of you in terms of reasoning, lol. Here, they've already figured out Fragment and attributed clues to Nephele... I'd like to at least process all of this before throwing in my own theories.

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