Posts from Мафия 108. Haunted asylum

No matter how you look at it, we already have quite a bit of information on Toxa and Morning, and they are among the most active here, so I'm in favor of refraining from punishment for now.

Master, can I at least comment on other guesses in the poll, indicating whether they are "cold" or "hot"?

No. At most, you can point out any inconsistencies or lack of logic in a particular player's interpretation of the question, and nothing more.

Yesterday, Yashchur asked me to analyze the possible responses of Loken-Charlie/Doctor.

Here's what I came up with:

Given: peaceful role, high IQ, no glasses.

Questions:

1) Do you have glasses?
2) Do you have high IQ?
3) Are you a loner?

Truthful answers in this case:

1) No
2) Yes
3) No

I. We lie about the first option, giving the following answers:

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) No

With these answers, the town analyzes the survey as follows:

If the first is a lie: Salzman/Charlie/Abbot
If the second is a lie: potentially a doctor who changed their IQ on the very first night
If the third is a lie: potentially a girl who chose glasses as an item

II. We lie about the second option, giving the following answers:

1) No
2) No
3) No

With these answers, the town analyzes the survey as follows:

If the first is a lie: potentially a doctor who changed their IQ on the very first night
If the second is a lie: Salzman/Charlie/Abbot
If the third is a lie: impossible

III. We lie about the third option, giving the following answers:

1) No
2) Yes
3) Yes

With these answers, the town analyzes the survey as follows:

If the first is a lie: potentially a girl who chose glasses as an item
If the second is a lie: impossible
If the third is a lie: Salzman/Charlie/Abbot

Since it is the third set of answers that eliminates the potentially +1 negative role, i.e., the doctor, I would, if I were Loken Charlie/Salzman, answer exactly like this. And that's what he did, and this is another argument for his peacefulness...

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Okay, my pointing out the lack of logic – I think that the first association with Natasha Rostova and Bolkonsky is not that one is a social butterfly, and the other is a recluse, but simply that one is a good person, and the other is a noble guy.

What does this mean? I can't say, but you think about it.

A question for Tox. You said that you don't really like Yashur. But where is the dialogue with him? I don't see you trying to expose him.

And what about me? Am I just "gray" to you? Where is the dialogue with me? x)

A question for Tox. You said that you don't like Yashur very much. But where is the dialogue with him? I just don't see you trying to expose him.

Links, yesterday I honestly answered his questions, and above, I analyzed potential answers from Morny, as he requested...

Basically, considering just the first night, Tox:
Can't be Dave, because his role was revealed in the newspaper when Tox was blocked.
Can't be Eddie, because his role was revealed in the newspaper when Tox was blocked.
Can't be Suzanne, because her role was revealed in the newspaper when Tox was blocked.
Let's assume the Ghosts checked one of his roles on the first night; what could that have told them?
Lars - Male / IQ: High
Saltzman - Male / IQ: High
Charlie - Male / IQ: High
Cliff - Male / IQ: Average
If it was the first one, then nothing, except that he can't be Jeanette (which is confirmed on the second night). If it was the second one, was there any point in blocking him? No, because Cliff has immunity to being blocked. That leaves Lars, Saltzman, and Charlie. Blocking the Doctor is, in general, justifiable. Blocking Lars and Charlie is not very good. And if they didn't check him and couldn't be sure that he wasn't Cliff, then the target for the block isn't very good, except to prevent the town from getting 100% information.
We can also try to consider the poll from the perspective of these specific roles, because for now, this is still unreliable information.

Okay, guys, sorry for the circus.

Let's be honest, without modding and threats.

I really had a meltdown, and it was very difficult for me to control my emotions.

Let's play fair. Please ask me any questions, and I will answer them. I just ask that you give me a chance to prove that I am peaceful, without resorting to dirty tricks...

I am confident that I can convince you, but you also need to meet me halfway. For example, you are still not considering all the options...

Of course, there are also some crazy people, but I don't want to include them in the equation, because the question now is whether Tox is a city or not.

Revan, I'm not sure if they were specifically checking my status. I think they were just a little freaked out by my provocative behavior on the first night and thought that either I had a really strong Town role that I was protecting, or I was just a crazy, overconfident Maniac. Nothing stopped them from blocking me for the second night in a row to slow things down, in case I was a Maniac or a Girl, or to prevent me from healing anyone. Moreover, they might even have been afraid of Charlie, because if he gets one of their roles, it limits their options.

And as I explained earlier, if they had another kill tonight that depended on an Eater of Souls or Immunity, then I, having been blocked for two nights in a row, would have been the main suspect, and as you can see, it's very easy to target me during the day...

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Of course, there are also Maniacs, but I don't want to add them to the equation, because the question now is whether Tox is a Town member or not.

We now know that I'm not a Maniac, according to the poll. But the Mafia could have suspected me of being a Maniac at the beginning of the second night...

You guys have written a lot here, and most of it is just Tox's ranting. Sorry for my inactivity, but I was busy with work all day and I'm still working on it, and I haven't even had breakfast yet (they said it would take a couple of hours, but I've been working since 10 AM Moscow time -_-).

Guys, for those who are going to "execute" me, I have a very important question.

Are you going to "execute" me as part of the Lokken-Tox mafia connection, or just separately?

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Revan, you also asked why I initially initiated my own "execution"?

Because I was very panicked, and I also wanted to see who is currently playing against me, in order to draw conclusions about their psychology. I initially considered the possibility that maybe my best move after that night is to simply commit suicide by revealing myself, in order to get information for the town, so I decided to test the waters.

Is this unethical? Yes. Do I have another option? I'm not sure, but I'll try.

I like that at least Gumer and Macca understand my emotions and believe me...

Okay, let’s say, on the first night, blocking your own teammate and reducing the number of roles available to them would be a stupid move. But what if the Mafia placed a block on you to clear themselves with a successful kill on the second night, considering that at that moment, all the roles displayed in the newspaper were inaccessible to the teammate?

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And guys, for the third time. The Guard almost certainly swapped the items so that none of them would match the starting set. 90%, one of the items is a phone, because you can't ask a question about it in the poll, and the second is glasses/notebook/tools...

Because he panicked a lot.

But why? At that moment, only Neira had replied in the thread, and there was no new information about you other than the poll, and by that time, players had not yet reached a consensus on its solution. Panic would have been justified if you had definitively "bad" answers.

But why? At that time, only Neyra had replied in the thread, and there was no new information about you besides the poll, and by that time, players had not yet reached a consensus on its solution. Panic would have been justified if you had definitively "bad" answers.

Revan, I can't answer that question for you. I just can't. But if I could, you would understand everything.

Believe me, I had very good reasons to panic.

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Cancel the execution of Yashur, NNV

There probably won't be a second branch anymore, so either I leave, or we go to NNV.