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I could give you three mod kills right now, but you want to play a bit more, right?
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If Gumer is peaceful, then there are 0 peaceful roles on Neba.
Is this with or without your hypothetical peacefulness?
 

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Is this with or without your hypothetical peacefulness?

No, I lied, sorry. Theoretically, based on facts from newspapers, there might be a role for board games on Heaven, and also a doctor, kind of. But if Gumer is peaceful, he replaces one of these roles.
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I could issue three mod bans right now, but you guys still want to play, right?
Okay. Guys, let's clarify the wording. We'll take it and clarify the wording with the GM.
We clarify the wording. All of us. We don't write anything even remotely potentially dangerous without doing this.
 

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Okay, I've read it more carefully. Well, I personally like the solution to the clue, but this fact alone doesn't necessarily speak in your favor, Lynx. I think it's clear why the easier clues are solved more quickly.
Gummer is on the city's side. Krabby is on the city's side. At least, I'm willing to bet on that right now. Yes, Tox didn't modkill, but it seems the reason is the loyalty of our GM, praise be to him. If either of these two isn't who I currently think they are, then it doesn't matter what happens next.
Lynx, can you agree with these statements, at least probabilistically, even if I'm not 100% convincing?
Right now, it looks very much like Krabby is definitely on the city's side. His selflessness and attempt to solve the clue say a lot. Gummer is more complicated, as there have been no arguments from him; he is still asking to wait until night (which would make sense if PSL were alive and could use his ultimate ability), and I'm not used to trusting these kinds of "rescuers" :/ I would like to hear his thoughts on the matter, after all, in order to make a more informed decision. And I would like to read everyone else's thoughts as well.

The Mafia enjoyed drinking with Fragment. And this doesn't look like an attempt to whitewash. Especially now.
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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There's a thought on this: if Sky is a mafia member, he could be the father, and Master could be another mafia member.

I just came across this post. So, why would Sky be the father if he was at his country house? This action wouldn't affect the father.

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We don't know who went to kill the Mafia members on the second night, officially. Although, I would have gone as the Father figure, in this case.
 

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We don't know who went to kill the Mafia members on the second night, formally speaking. Although, I would have gone as the father, that's for sure.

Tox wrote that if the mother tries to send the father to the dacha, the action simply doesn't trigger and isn't displayed in the newspaper.

And also, can you share Morning's post where he's playing that very role? I can't find it, but I'd really like to read it.

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MasteR

Well, maybe the Mafia doesn't know about the "Mana" role yet. But if you insist, I think "Crabby" is the Mana. Because he started to be exposed through investigation. Moreover, through an investigation that checks the second role (the first role is almost useless on its own). And who among the living townspeople is capable of doing this? Only the Knight. The Knight hasn't visited me even once. But the Serial Killer could easily find out both roles in that time, and even check with a redirect.
So, you're insisting that the first love is dead? That's very strange, even in the description of the death – there was a strong emotional reaction for the "waifu," why is everything so neutral and distant here?
Another attempt to mislead the town? :
MasteR

How is that so? I laid out what I could, including possible future actions. This is a completely unfounded claim.

If I remain the primary candidate for execution, the game will end tonight.

I believe I have enough grounds to identify the Serial Killer without evidence.
As far as I remember, in discussions, you either gave your thoughts in portions and concisely. If you made a detailed analysis of all the Mafia's actions, please refresh my memory with a link.
Why are you only voicing your thoughts about the Serial Killer now, when they are being pulled out of you with pliers?
MasteR

I agree with that. How do we proceed to the next clue?

Why go from the clue in reverse? What's the logic? There's a phrase in the signature – the game – the composer of this game – his other projects. And vice versa: there's a voice actor and dates – games – composer of games – the game Darkest Dungeon.
The more questions of this kind related to the puzzle, the more thoughts arise about an attempt to pass off one of the Mafia as the Serial Killer. But the mention of "Crabby" throws all of this off... Or are you thinking about redirecting the clue to one of your own guys?
Что такое осень - это небо
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And also, can you share Morning's post where he's playing that specific role? I can't find it, but it would be very interesting to read.
I haven't seen any posts where Lock is pretending to be someone.
I think you're misunderstanding who Krabby is, as you've focused on a specific thing (just as I incorrectly understood who Gumer was).
 

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Mestear
So you insist that the first love is dead? That's very strange, even in the description of death – there was a strong emotional reaction to the waifu; why is everything neutral and distant here?
Another attempt to mislead people?

Well, actually, this was immediately the main version. The idea that Nefela could be the mother was put forward by Ment relatively recently. I don’t see any explicit references to a mother, but this:
It's as if you were desperately clinging to a piece of the past, and it finally slipped out of your hands, disappearing forever.
hints at a first love.

Mestear
As far as I remember, in discussions, if you shared your thoughts, they were fragmented and concise. If you presented all the actions of the mafia players from start to finish, please refresh my memory with a link.

Here is a recent example. I won't search through the entire topic.
https://forum.heroesworld.ru/showpost.ph ... ount=288

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Why are you only voicing thoughts about the maniac now, when they are being pulled out of you with pliers? Why go against the evidence? What's the logic? There's a phrase in your signature – game - composer of that game - his other projects. And vice versa: there’s an actor who did voice acting and dates - games - composer of games - Darkest Dungeon game. The more questions of this kind related to solving the puzzle, the more thoughts arise about trying to pass off one of the mafia players as the maniac. But pointing at Krabby throws everything off... Or do you think you should redirect the clue to someone else on your team?

This is a key criterion for the correctness of the clue. After all, Tox must have come up with it somehow. Moreover, it should be a quite logical chain, preferably without transitions from one to many equivalent options (well, at least I always followed this principle, and on other forums, it was standard).

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Well, why didn't I want to talk about the maniac; I already wrote about it. More than once. Please pay closer attention. Right now, all of this looks like an attempt to pull suspicions out of thin air.

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I don't see any obvious references to a mother, but here it is.
For those who are still in doubt – it's a "card-inspector." What is there to even think about? A piece of the past can be attributed to an ex, but also to a mother, but the potato is just a guarantee. I simply disagree with other interpretations.
 

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And yes, if Nefela was the mother, then the town doesn't have a voting advantage right now. All this discussion is pointless, and the mafia essentially wins. They also have the Hypocrite's ultimate ability in reserve.

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For those who are still in doubt -- the Inspector card. What is there to even think about? A piece of the past can be attributed to the former, but also to the mother, but the card is simply a guarantee. I simply disagree with other versions.

If the Mother is eliminated, then I have no peaceful roles left on Fragment.
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