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If a clue appears, will you try to solve it? Have you ever successfully solved a clue during a game of Mafia?
All sorts of things have happened, and some clues were solved, while others weren't. Don't ask me to recall specific instances. But when a clue appears, then yes, I will.MasteR
If the father continues to commit assaults until the end of the game, what will we do?
Right now, fairly obvious conclusions have been drawn about the roles being displayed, but are there any candidates for negative roles with a probability of at least 90%? In my time, unsuccessful attacks were described somewhat abstractly in the newspaper. But here, there are quite a few options for negative actions, considering your reasoning about defense/attack strategies. You, Master, said that you see a certain strategy for the Mafia from your side. But can you name which of the players present would play with the same vision?
Что такое осень - это небо Плачущее небо под ногами
I think that evaluating how someone "usually" plays three years after their last game isn't a very productive topic. I don't know how to judge without evidence.
All sorts of things have happened, including solved cases and berbers. Don't ask me to recall specific instances, but I will when it happens.
Currently, fairly obvious conclusions have been drawn regarding the roles being displayed, but are there any candidates for negative roles with a probability of at least 90%?
In my time, unsuccessful attacks were described abstractly in the newspaper. But here, there are quite a few possible actions for the negative roles, considering your reasoning about defense/attack strategies.
You, Master, said that you see a certain strategy for the mafia from your side. But can you name anyone among the players present who would play with the same vision?
I can't say about having the same vision. I think that Yashchur and Fragment would definitely put effort into their actions, and Ment and Nefela would probably not be passive either. As for Nebo, I have no idea, and I've never seen the others in mafia chats.
A 90% probability is simply a luxury in the current setup. Unless some investigator decides to reveal themselves. Of course, I'm not encouraging anyone to reveal themselves. But if a knight or first love flies off just as quietly after n nights as Vishmaster did, then 70% for the execution will be a blessing.
I don't think it's very productive to evaluate how someone "usually" plays three years after their last game. I don't know how to condemn someone without evidence.
Pff. Some have 3, and some have 7).
Что такое осень - это небо Плачущее небо под ногами
Ultimately, we have the same two options today – skip another day, or execute someone without evidence.
NNV has already been eliminated and is gone. So, the execution will be without evidence.
Morning
Okay. I already mentioned my candidates in the previous post – Gumer and Freud. They haven't posted anything during the game, and both are immune, although they have been checking the thread. This used to be considered mafia behavior, and it also supports the theory about immunities.
I also wanted to remind you about Crabby, who wrote one not very convincing post before, and now he's back. With an even less convincing post, which is a shame.
I don't really want to execute the silent players right now. I understand that it's easy to accuse them, and there is some chance, but I need more convincing evidence to want to execute one of them today, and without evidence, I can't really see that happening.
Morning
Do you have any leads?
This is only the second day, so leads are being formed as we go. Tell me: what do you think about Ment and Master? What about Mesteer? And how is this related to the immunities?
MasteR
I would execute Yashur or Nefele. But this is based purely on the rhetoric from the first day.
I can still understand the reasoning for Yashur, but I don't understand the reasoning for Nefele; maybe I missed something. But doesn't Loken's rhetoric worry you at all?
MasteR
Ment is still playing dumb, and he has slightly better potential roles than Neba.
He was playing dumb on the first day, but not anymore.
MasteR
But for me, given the almost complete lack of information, one of the only options now is to try to analyze the possible actions of the mafia. I have a rough understanding of how I would act if I were a member of the mafia. Based on this vision, I try to understand why the mafia acted in this way. This may provide some information. Also, the reaction to my reasoning may provide some information.
That's exactly how I would act. I would engage in a lot of talk and excessive analysis instead of decisive action.
Start voting; half a day has passed, and skipping for the second day in a row with all these suspicious players still alive and without any evidence is very bad. We'll just end up sitting here with no information and empty analysis. The lack of votes in the thread at the moment is another indication that the people who are most active here right now are mostly scoundrels. Therefore, I will support the execution of Ment or Master.
I can understand the reasoning behind targeting Yaschur, but I don't understand the reasoning behind targeting Nefela; maybe I missed something. But doesn't Loken's rhetoric worry you at all? He was joking around on the first day, but not anymore.
Regarding Nefela: I've already responded to her. If I understand the events of the first night correctly (i.e., if there was no interference from external factors and a coincidence of several other factors), then it's not in your best interest for me to continue discussing Nefela. It might be a good idea to check someone from the Yaschur-Nefela pair by blocking/isolating them.
The "cop" was joking around until I wrote the post; I don't understand why you're asking me about it.
I have mixed feelings about Morning: on the one hand, he's actively participating in the discussion of possible actions by the mafia; on the other hand, calling for the execution of inactive players in the early days was my favorite thing to do when I was playing as the mafia myself.
Regarding the execution: I'm not ready to execute anyone today. The only person I'm morally ready to execute right now is out collecting Colorado beetles somewhere in a field. I have a list of suspicious individuals, but it's not enough.
Fragment, well, what can I say if there's nothing else useful in the newspapers?))
Regarding the killing of Vishmaster - I reread it more carefully, as I was in a hurry the first time - it was the father's assault, I was mistaken.
Regarding the execution, it's more complicated - I think, just sitting around for a second day won't be beneficial, so it would be good to kick someone out. On the other hand, there's no evidence, but... I think I'll take a risk. I understand that I will attract the mafia's anger, so I ask the town to support me.
Of all the participants, Master seemed the most suspicious to me, and after the second night, my impression only intensified. On the first day, Master actively analyzed the newspaper, made predictions, but now he seems to be confusing the players more, as I think.
I understand that he is probably a more experienced player, so he will explain everything better and you will believe his words more, but I assure you, you won't regret it if we execute him :)
Apparently, Mom had serious reasons for that...Fragment
Execute Morning. This guy looks like a real scoundrel.
Fragment's intuition?:DFragment
Yashur, tell me how you feel about the current situation, who is Mafia, who is Maniac?
Not enough information. For now, the list of suspects for Maniac includes: Crabby, Gumer, Freud, and... Nebo with Loken... It's harder to determine the Mafia, more information is needed.Fragment
Why haven't you voted for Mental yet, and you completely ignored him on the first day? That's not like you. Before the game started, you were eager to eliminate him.
I was under the influence of the same substances as the hero of this set, Ilyukha, before the game.:DFragment
Right now, who do you want to execute more, Mental or Loken?
Currently, I want to execute Loken more than Mental.MasteR
I would execute Yashur or Nefela. But this is based purely on the rhetoric from the first day.
Hmm... What's wrong with Yashur's rhetoric?MasteR
And I still don't believe in the Mafia intentionally blocking their own teammate.
Well, you should. If Mental is the Godfather, then his block while he's inactive, and the Reaper killing someone, could be possible. Personally, this scenario seems unlikely to me, but "it's just HvV"...MasteR
A couple of questions for you.
If evidence appears, will you try to solve it?
I will! :D:D:D Although, no, I won't, because Sezam isn't playing...:(Mestear
Are there any candidates for negative roles with a probability of at least 90%?
Well, Nebo is very close to that number... How much does he have now? About 75%, I think...MasteR
You can, of course, write one meaningless post per day or just ramble in the thread, why not? This is a tried and tested scheme that helps the town reach a state where a good Maniac is the only hope.
Something reminds me of this...:D:D:D
Added 3 minutes ago Crabby
Regarding the murder of Vishmaster - I reread it more carefully, as I was in a hurry the first time - it's the Godfather's attack, I was wrong.
Did someone tell you in chat?:D
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
I wanted to remind you about Krabby, who previously wrote a not very convincing post, and now he's back. With an even less convincing post, which is a shame. I don't really want to execute Molchunov right now. I understand that it's easy to criticize them, and there's a chance, but I need convincing evidence to want to execute any of them today, and without evidence, I can't really see myself doing it.
Krabby too. Where I wrote that three immunes are silent, and then crossed it out to two - the third one I meant was him. Then I reread the first day and finally saw one post from him. At the moment, I'm ready to execute any of them. Maybe Gumer a little less, since he's trying to expose himself, but that could just as easily be a lie.Fragment
This is the second day, and the investigation is literally being conducted on the fly. So tell me: what do you think about Ment and Master? About Mestiarr? And how is this related to the immunes?
Mestiarr seems the most suspicious to me out of this trio. For now, he looks typical - as if there are 1-2 active or semi-active mafia players, and he's one of them, seemingly with us during the day to have some representation, but he doesn't really put forward any theories or assign roles, he just maintains the illusion of participation. Ment is pretending to be Ment. His behavior is not very easy for me to read at the moment. That first post about redirection and blocking the hypocrite is so out of place that it seems like an obvious joke. The fact that he disagreed with the reasoning about the immunes is his right, and that's fair, but overall, I don't see much constructive input from him either. More likely a mafia member than a town member. Master seemed suspicious to me on the first day, considering the mentioned scheme about one or two active mafia members, which he could fit into (in principle, any player who participates in the game, rather than sitting in silence, is obviously exposing himself, and then you can analyze what exactly he's saying), and based on his reasoning about staying quiet and not using his father. But upon further consideration, this theory didn't seem like a 100% shot in the dark, and many of his current arguments coincide with my thoughts. More likely a town member than a mafia member.
You're missing a point that has already been made, in my opinion. The mafia doesn't need to put on a show, lead people down false paths, and so on. There is no trail at the moment. Just none. And the lack of votes speaks to this. Their role kills without evidence, and there's nothing you can do about it. The mafia has an advantage, and there's no need for them to expose themselves, reveal themselves, or come up with something during the day. The town will not win in the long run anyway. Isn't this obvious?
Let's put the question bluntly, if you want. Are you ultimately for skipping the day or for executing based on suspicion? If you're for execution, then I'm ready to execute Ment and Mestiarr. I'm also still ready to execute Freud, Krabby, and Gumer to a lesser extent. I want to execute Master less than any of them; I like him. But I don't have enough factual basis to push for it. For the record, I'm ready to do it without question. Comment on the post, and if you don't change your mind, I'll add my vote.
One seems to be getting suspicious, and the other thinks I'm a maniac. So, two executions for completely opposite reasons...
Don't act so rashly right now, and especially don't blame me for being active during the day. According to that logic, I should be executed in every game, and preferably on the first day.
For me, Mestiar is the most suspicious of this trio. So far, he seems typical – as if there are 1-2 active or semi-active players in the mafia, and he is one of them. He seems to be with us during the day, just to have some representation, but he doesn't really put forward any theories or assign roles; he just maintains the illusion of participation.
Okay, okay. I won't make any more suggestive jokes.
Что такое осень - это небо Плачущее небо под ногами
Mestear
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