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I'm just sharing my opinion as a newbie who visited the clan subforum for the first time.
How were you able to access the intra-clan subforum if you're not a member of any groups?
Added 2 minutes later kj1313;118119
Has anyone informed the creator about this discussion? If not, they should. They should also add their comments, and keep in mind that not all parties have had their say...
A hacker will inform the Creator when the SOFTWARE REGULATIONS FOR CLANS are adjusted to address this issue. Please read more carefully.)
Мудрость должна найти применение в твоей жизни,иначе она заржавеет,как меч,который ни разу не пустили в дело. Первооткрывательница,советник по делам мира Клана "E pluribus unum":rolleyes:
Don't worry, the administration is unlikely to take radical measures, as Clans contribute to the forum's popularity. They will simply tighten the rules for creating Clans, so that Clans are actually Clans, and not just a sub-forum for a separate group of people.
I completely agree with Magnus...
We won't allow anyone to engage in terror, but some rules will be implemented to ensure that a Clan is actually a Clan.
Could you tell me how you accessed the intra-clan subforum if you're not a member of any groups?
Perhaps I was speaking out of ignorance and inexperience, basing my reasoning on publicly available information and not seeing the bigger picture. If so, I apologize. Maybe there are other "hidden" clan subforums. I was posting based on the sections that are publicly accessible: "inter-clan section" and "inter-clan tournaments." So, how do new players register their clans that aren't members of any of the groups? :confused:
2 Invisible Which groups are you referring to? First, a new player creates Clan N, and then both the player and all members of Clan N gain access to the intra-clan subforum of Clan N. P.S. Clan N can be any new (or even old) clan.
I believe it is obvious that when drafting the new Clan Regulations, the opinions of representatives from REAL, ACTIVE clans should be the primary consideration, because they have proven their effectiveness.
I believe it’s obvious that when drafting the new Clan Regulations, the opinion of representatives from ACTUALLY ACTIVE clans should be the primary consideration, because they have proven their success.
This is not as obvious as it may seem. This approach has many difficulties in implementation:
1. The portal operates on a democratic system, not a feudal one. That’s how things are done here.
2. Even if the representatives of “ACTUALLY ACTIVE” clans are completely honest and objective in their intentions, and do not seek to benefit themselves first, their honesty will still not be believed, because someone’s interests will still be harmed. Disputes and rumors will start again, there will be a lot of chatter, and the effectiveness will be zero.
3. A major problem will be determining who is “ACTUALLY ACTIVE.” It is unlikely that many will admit to being “dead,” even though they are.
4. The lists of “ACTUALLY ACTIVE” and successful clans may definitely not coincide, depending on the criteria for success. For example, in the main and original goal of creating clans – in clan battles – no one has particularly excelled.
Therefore, at the moment, it would be much more effective if the adopted changes clearly reflected the equality of all clans before the new rules, so that everyone has the same chance to prove themselves, and challenging them would mean admitting that they are “dead.” For example, now record a requirement for “heroic activity” at least once every three months, with a minimum of 4 clan members (because that’s how many are needed for registration), and everyone will agree; this is such a small thing for an active clan. Even a hint of challenging such a rule is equivalent to admitting one’s own inadequacy. And dead clans will quickly disappear. Either they will revive, or they will disband.
And most importantly, we will inadvertently label the living as dead, and the dead as living.
You can view the clan rating – this can also serve as a criterion for "real activity." By the way, are you not a member of any clan? If you have any thoughts about this, it can be changed...
You can check the clan rating – this could be a criterion for "real activity." By the way, aren't you a member of any clan? If you have any thoughts on this, it can be changed...
And take Perpolken with you. Otherwise, you know – today they started dealing with inactive clans, tomorrow – with inactive forum users, and Perpolken only had 7 messages in the last six months at the time of winning the "War of the Strongest"... It won't be long before trouble comes...
Tell the sovereign that the English don't clean their rifles with bricks, or God forbid, there will be a war.... :D :D :D
Истинно говорю вам: 21 декабря 2012 года Земля налетит на небесную ось!
2. Even if the representatives of the "REAL, FUNCTIONING" groups are completely honest and objective in their intentions, and do not seek to benefit themselves first, people still won't believe in their honesty, because someone's interests will still be affected. Arguments and rumors will start again, there will be a lot of pointless chatter and zero efficiency.
It will be this way in any case... Let either the existing clans or any other person make the decision in this regard. There will always be people who feel they are being treated unfairly... There will always be "arguments and rumors, a lot of pointless chatter." So, something/someone will have to be sacrificed anyway. And since we have a democracy, not feudalism, let the majority decide: we need to appoint a person/clan/several clans responsible for this task through voting or simply by expressing opinions. And again, a dissatisfied and opposing minority will appear. But since we have a democracy, the minority is no longer the majority.
Мудрость должна найти применение в твоей жизни,иначе она заржавеет,как меч,который ни разу не пустили в дело. Первооткрывательница,советник по делам мира Клана "E pluribus unum":rolleyes:
You can check the Clans rating – this can be a criterion for "real activity".
A worthy criterion, reflecting if not everything, then a lot. But again, one could argue that the Clan has just appeared, and we shouldn't stifle the young generation. But the objective reasons that formed this rating will not disappear in one day. Therefore, we introduce stricter requirements for creating a Clan (new ones won't appear for some time) and give all existing Clans a chance to prove themselves. Very quickly, it will become clear who really lacked time, and who lacked something else. Before the end of the year, Tournaments will be held for parts 1, 3, 4, 5, and maybe even 2, and for Warlords. Participation in these Tournaments can be made voluntary-mandatory for Clans. This is quite enough to create a picture even from scratch. The strong will show themselves, and the weak will fade into oblivion.
There will always be "squabbles and rumors, a sea of chatter".
Yes, there will be, but the amount can be significantly reduced.
Yes, they will be, but the quantity can be significantly reduced.
In this situation, it cannot be reduced. And, actually, it was your words that there will always be dissatisfied people. As for reducing the amount of off-topic posts, that's a completely different problem and, clearly, not something to be solved in this thread.
Мудрость должна найти применение в твоей жизни,иначе она заржавеет,как меч,который ни разу не пустили в дело. Первооткрывательница,советник по делам мира Клана "E pluribus unum":rolleyes:
yes, here's a new revival of this topic=)););) I read everything here, and strangely enough, I support everyone - but not in all of their opinions=)) And I saw a lot of interesting things in the posts of the respected Fireball.
Come on, guys, you wouldn't go scouting with them. :smile17: You want to put the author in a position where he has no choice. THAT'S LOW AND MEAN. :smile10:
By the way, I have a feeling you just have nothing to do and you're starting to beat around the bush. :smile32: What is a clan? A clan is a group of like-minded people! But what a clan is in your understanding is a very interesting question, so I insist that we drop this topic and not bring it up at all. THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guys, you can't go scouting with you.:smile17: You want to present the author with a fait accompli. THAT'S LOW AND MEAN.:smile10:
By the way, I have a feeling you just have nothing to do and you're just beating around the bush.:smile32: What is a Clan? A Clan is a group of like-minded people! But what a Clan is in your understanding is a very interesting question, so I insist that we drop this topic and not bring it up at all. THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, a group of like-minded people who come to the site for 4 days and then leave, leaving behind only a Clan entry, which is just garbage. Did you read the whole thread? Let me remind you: a newbie comes in, sees some Clan, applies to join, and is ignored (although in reality the Clan hasn't existed for a long time, but he doesn't know that), he might get offended and leave the forum. Besides, is it normal for there to be 20 Clans in the Clan section, but in reality only 10, and many newbies, as you can see, just come and create their own Clans - which is pointless. And in this thread, they are trying to figure out how to reason with them so that they don't clutter up the forum. What's so mean and low about that? Are they being sworn at here? I don't think so. What else don't you like?
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