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2 Windows Vienna What kind of limit do you want to introduce, and for whom? I don't understand anything at all, to be honest. :) Please explain. :confused:
Added 2 minutes later In my opinion, only the Administration can introduce any limits! Or is this a suggestion from the Administration?
it’s easier to assess the activity of Clans after, say, six months or a year (except for newly created ones – let’s give them 3-5 months) and then inform them that they are inactive and remove them.
Inactive means they haven’t participated in any offline or online Tournaments. (you could make it even stricter, requiring that 4 people – since that’s how many are needed for a Clan – haven’t participated in any Tournaments on behalf of the Clan) it doesn’t matter if it’s an offline or online Tournament.
everything else is already an infringement of rights. you can’t just say “no” and that’s it.
then you’ll just end up sitting here with a core group of 20-30 people for 2-3 years, and then you’ll understand why we only have 5 Clans and no activity :smile30:
of course, many people come and think, “I’ll create a Clan and be the leader,” but that doesn’t mean you need to treat everyone the same.
besides, dead Clans don’t interfere with anything (unless someone is constantly in the General Clan topic and can’t find their Clan due to the large number of topics) :smile01: my advice: bookmark the topic for your Clan
so, how is it not important? The note in parentheses is outrageous if you really think that THIS is not important.
I didn't express myself correctly!!!! I meant that it doesn't matter to me how the Clans will be divided later – according to what criteria, etc. The main thing is that there will be some criteria, but which ones doesn't matter to me;););)
I suggest a limit of 100 posts on the forum.
You can easily reach 100 posts in 2-3 days if you really want to. I suggest a TEMPORARY limit – for example, a person should be on the forum for at least (for example) 2-3 months.
advice: bookmark the topic of your Clan.
Each Clan has its own internal sub-forum.... but imagine that we have (for example) 15 Clans... 12 of them are dead... so, why is it necessary to overload the forum by creating internal sub-forums????
explain how 12 Clans can fundamentally differ from each other.
And you, explain to me how your Clan differs from the "Soul Hunters"??? It's also dedicated to Necromancy, right? So, why create a clone (figuratively speaking)! I understand that each Clan is unique in its own way, and it cannot be compared to another according to any criteria EXCEPT ACTIVITY!!!!!!!!!!
everything should be decided by the admin, and only him. And if you are unhappy with how he performs his duties, write to him directly.
But I didn't say that, and if you have such thoughts, then write to him yourself.... and if you are a smart person, you should understand that the Creator is also a person, and besides virtual life, he has a real one... with his own problems and concerns.... and he cannot constantly be on the portal. That's why the "administration" was created, which includes not only the Creator!!!!
I DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
read the posts carefully, and don't jump to conclusions.
And what are you talking about? About how I express my thought? If I hadn't created this topic, newcomers would continue to create Clans, recruit newcomers, and then disappear from the forum.....!!!
each clan has its own internal subforum... and imagine, we have (for example) 15 clans... 12 of them are dead... so why is it necessary to overload the forum by creating internal subforums????
but you don't see the subforums (as far as I understand)
secondly it's negligible compared to the total number of topics
it's strange that you're not interested in the criteria, what if relatives are forbidden to join the same clan:D like, one person per clan, where will you go?;)
this is very important it's one thing when there are simply no people on the forum, and their clans are hanging around as dead weight
it's another thing when some Necromancers say: - "we want to be green with rage and cooler than spectral dragons, there is no one else"; and others say that Necromancers should be black with envy and worship vampires
why should they be in the same clan? they won't even get along there
As they say, taste and color... all felt-tip pens are different...
you don't see the subforums (as far as I understand)
secondly it's negligible compared to the total number of topics
Yes, it's small, but why keep things on the forum that aren't needed???
it's a different matter when some Necromancer players say: - "we want to be green with rage and no one is cooler than the spectral dragons"; and others say that Necromancers should be black with envy and worship the vampires
why should they be in the same clan? they won't get along there anyway
Of course, there are different types of Necromancer fans... but we don't necessarily have to join clans, do we???? I doubt there will be so many people willing to go for both sides, but it's still more fun together... For example, my clan, Soulkeepers, is a General clan for Necromancer lovers. It doesn't matter who you worship, even if it's Aunt Masha from the village across the river. The main thing is that you play as a Necromancer...
2 Windows Vienna What kind of limit do you want to introduce and for whom? I didn't understand anything at all, to be honest. Please explain.
Added 2 minutes later In my opinion, only the Administration can introduce any limits!!! Or is this the Administration's proposal?
Right now, they are discussing the proposal, and whether limits will be introduced will depend on the outcome of this discussion. Please read the topic more carefully.
3) explain how 12 clans can differ radically from each other (is the division into races and worldview stupid)?
Hmm, so what isn't stupid for you? In my opinion, this is quite logical, and the number doesn't necessarily have to be exactly 12, but somewhere in that range. Understand that 3 clans based on different races, the only thing they can differ in is their policy... but what's the point (because in general, they are created with one goal)?
This was created for the benefit, right? And the clans that don't bring benefits, well, they need to be gotten rid of, of course, but it's more important to prevent this from happening again - it's easier to fight the cause than the consequences...
At the moment, we are fighting the consequences, because we didn't have any experience in creating clans before. And now that this problem has arisen, we need to do something about it...
the admin should decide everything and only he, and if you are unhappy with how he performs his duties, write about it directly
Our respected Creator doesn't decide based on his own discretion, but in a way that will be best for everyone. After all, the forum is created for players.
and here's another thing... I forgot to reply back then...
If a clan is inactive (dead), it should be closed, provided that it is causing problems, but why bother with new clans?
So, why create a new clan if it's just going to be a dead weight? And then, as you yourself said... it will be deleted, right?
It's strange that you're not interested in the criteria, what if relatives are forbidden from joining the same clan?
Yes... it's the same old song and dance...!!!!! First, you can't participate in tournaments, then you're not allowed to look at each other's saves, and now you can't be in the same clan... Yes... guys!!!!! What will happen next? Will we be forbidden from being on the same portal? Tell me, what does this have to do with relatives or not? What difference does it make?
2 Rep: First of all, my question is for you – what do you mean by an "inactive clan"? Explain specifically what you mean? Because inactivity can be interpreted in different ways...
How will you know if a clan is inactive and what exactly constitutes "inactivity"?
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
first of all, the question is directed to you – what do you mean by an "inactive clan"? Explain specifically what you mean? Because inactivity can be interpreted in different ways...
I thought it was clear why I created this thread... and what are we even talking about now – about dead (inactive) clans (I provided a list of them in my first post, in my opinion)... inactive means one that is doing nothing at all... and it's not even about tournaments... but in general... on the forum!!!
I didn't express myself correctly!!!! I wanted to say that it doesn't matter to me how the Clans will be divided later – according to what criteria, etc.... The main thing is that there will be some criteria – but which ones doesn't matter to me;););)
Yes, these 100 posts in 2-3 days can be achieved if you really want to. I suggest a TEMPORARY limit – for example, a person should be on the forum for at least (for example) 2-3 months..... Each Clan has its own internal sub-forum.... but imagine that we have (for example) 15 Clans... 12 of them are dead... so why is it necessary to overload the forum by creating internal sub-forums???? And then explain to me what distinguishes your Clan from "Soul Hunters"??? It's also dedicated to Necromancers, right?... So why create a clone (figuratively speaking)! I understand that each Clan is unique in its own way and cannot be compared to another according to any criteria EXCEPT ACTIVITY!!!!!!!!!! But I didn't say that, and if you have such thoughts, then write to him yourself..... and if you are a smart person, you should understand that the Creator is also a person, and besides virtual life, he has a real one... with his own problems and concerns..... and he cannot constantly be on the portal.. that's why the "administration" was created, which includes not only the Creator....!!!!
I DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and this is about what... about how I express my thought... if I hadn't created the topic, newbies would continue to create Clans, recruit newbies, and then disappear from the forum.....!!!
1) I understand 2) In the "flood" section, yes, but the post counter doesn't work there, and moderators remove frivolous and irrelevant posts (or are you dissatisfied with their work?) So, 100 posts is a significant barrier, and it takes more than a couple of months to register an account and then create a Clan. 3) Soul Hunters are Necromancers and undead, but my Clan is an international one that worships dark forces in general. 4) The Creator is a person, but in my opinion, he is smart and honest; however, he will decide for himself whether he needs assistants, and in general, I am not against your proposal
I thought it was clear why I created this thread... and what are we even talking about now – about dead (inactive) clans (I provided a list of them in my first post, in my opinion)... inactive means that they are doing nothing at all... and it's not even about tournaments... but about everything... on the forum!!!
Okay. Then I'll ask more specifically: If they are having an inter-clan tournament, how will you find out about it? After all, there will be a certain level of inactivity within the clan, but you won't know anything about it. That is, the clan isn't dead internally, but nothing can be seen or heard about it from the outside, so what then?
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
But why create a new Clan if it will just be dead weight? And as you yourself said, it will be deleted.
Who would be bothered by such a Clan? They create a Clan, it exists "actively" for some time, then becomes "inactive," so what? Who does it bother? You? You're already in a Clan. New players? Well, then it only bothers those who are too lazy to browse, let's say, 10 Clan topics and choose something for themselves.
Completely dead Clans (i.e., those whose members haven't appeared on the forum for a certain time) should be deleted, but they aren't parasites... Regarding the message limit, that's great, but not everyone likes to write a lot and often, and those who want to create a new Clan (for bragging, for example) will easily overcome this "barrier by writing all sorts of things in different topics. If they want to, they can manage it in 2-3 days. But a limit on the time spent is more reasonable, because it's unlikely that a user will register and wait a month, for example. It's very unlikely that they will register and log in after that time limit; it's all just talk.
In general, this is just my humble opinion; these kinds of restrictions and "cleansing" of old Clans aren't necessary. It's all a bit silly. Do they prevent people from playing Heroes? Do they prevent them from discussing tactics, Factions, castles, etc.? What other goals does the portal have? In my opinion, the portal is dedicated to the game series, so let's discuss the game, not argue over trivial things. :) Sincerely, ZYbr
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
newbies won't spam much))) there are moderators, they delete uninformative messages and spam)) so...))
P.S. it's possible to create an inactive clan for those who don't appear on the forum (or appear very rarely) but don't want to leave (or disband) the clan))) (just kidding)
you say that dead clans don't bother anyone... but if they are removed, that won't bother anyone either. No one will suffer) if you don't like these rules, you can introduce activity deadlines; if a clan is silent for 2-3 months, it will be dismissed))
in some dead clans, there are 1-2 active people (it's a pity because they don't want to leave)) so it will be 10 dead clans with 1-2 people each, but they could create one with 10 people)
If you're talking about people who abandoned the portal, then, in my opinion, the administration has a time limit for how long a person can stay on the forum. That is, those who registered will eventually be deleted by the admin or those whose responsibility it is. Speaking of a time limit...
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
If you're talking about people who abandoned the forum, then, in my opinion, the administration actually has a limit on how long a person can stay on the forum. That is, those who registered will eventually be deleted by the admin or those responsible for it. Speaking of a time limit...
On the one hand, this is correct, but it's very problematic. Look at approximately what percentage of users actually visit the forum? About 20-25% sometimes, about 15% regularly, and 5% every day – these are approximate figures. And if you delete inactive users, the forum will become desolate, and there will be no incentive for newcomers to visit the resource for help, where there are very few people. But when there are 7-8 thousand users, the forum gains authority in the eyes of newcomers. Therefore, "dead souls" are useful. The same can be said about clans, but it's still better to send a message to clan leaders: if the last activity of 4 people from their clan was more than N days ago, then after N1 days, the clan will be disbanded
Magnus, please explain it in a way that everyone can understand. And regarding the topic, Rep, good job creating the thread (I would have done it myself, but you were faster :D). We could hold a rating for "dead" clans twice a year and remove them accordingly.
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