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Without faith, a person is weak and decayed like a rotten tree, no matter how strong and large they may seem on the outside.
Faith in God is needed to comfort the fragile souls of people.

Personally, I prefer this excerpt from a poem written by a Russian writer (unfortunately, I do not know the name).

When you ask God for help,
At the very least you must know one thing:
That to curb your own helplessness
You will continue to be unable.

When you ask the wise for help,
On this account you can be at peace,
They will give you the opportunity in enlightenment
To understand yourself and overcome weakness.


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And yet, there is no god in this world; gods are a lie invented by people out of weakness. Out of weakness and ignorance (which is also the great evil).
God is a good excuse. Otherwise, everything would look simple, like madness.
И страхи стали реальностью,а боль и страдания - наградой.Хотя и не благословенным началом,все готовятся к последнему СУДУ!
Днём и ночью от наших тел,можно слышать крики боли,из-за накопленных нашими душами грехов...
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MoonBoy;92302
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And yet, in this world, there is no god; gods are a lie invented by people out of weakness. Out of weakness and ignorance (which is the greatest evil).
God is a good excuse. Otherwise, everything would seem simple, like madness.

I disagree.

God exists. The question is only what (or who) to consider God. Solovyov considered love to be God (the philosophy of all-unity). For Hegel, God is the world spirit. For some, God is being. For others, God is themselves. I believe that God exists as long as people believe in him. His very existence is proven by faith in him.

Gods were invented out of weakness; people sought protection from them against violence, against nature, in which people of antiquity, who previously considered themselves part of nature, suddenly saw an enemy, powerful, unpredictable, and deadly. Who else could they seek protection from?
But at the same time, for most religions of that period, there is one characteristic feature: God is a human (Veles is a human shepherd, Perun is a human warrior, etc.).
Then Christianity appeared, subsuming all local religions (pagan beliefs). God began to be considered not human. He became unknowable, without form. In early Christianity, by the way, one can trace the presence of paganism. In particular, Jesus Christ, whom many call God, was a human. Notice, God-man (man-god) – almost like Perun, right? Why was he needed there, given that the visible presence of God in the world (and you know that people were executed for visions of God) was vehemently denied? Because God needed a representative, someone who would promote his interests. However, this is only one of the reasons.
And in the early stages of Christianity, people sought protection in it.
Then, as they discovered nature and technology, people asked themselves: how was the world created? And religion – this is the most interesting part – offered an answer: God created it.
In the Age of Enlightenment, Man became bolder. He stopped fearing nature, the external world. And it wasn't just man who became bolder, but Mankind.
However, eternal questions remained: how did the world come about, what is it made of, and other currents, not only religious ones, began to provide answers (the atomic picture of the world, etc.). But this too has passed; we know what the world is made of, we know how it came about (the Big Bang theory and other theories).
Thus, at the present time (21st century), God, who originated as protection from the external environment, and then as an answer to questions (how did the world come about, etc.), is... the meaning of life!.
Ask yourself: why do you live? For yourself. Unlikely. For your family. Unlikely. And so on. See, if you don't know :), then the end of life is death (even reincarnation is death; a new person is born, in whom there is not even a particle of the old one, and if there is, how can this be verified?). And death negates all these mercenary meanings of life, which lose their meaning.

That is why God is the meaning of life.
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Read the latest post in the Velvet Room, what do you think of this vision of God? http://forum.ogl.ru/read/1049347021/0#47
И страхи стали реальностью,а боль и страдания - наградой.Хотя и не благословенным началом,все готовятся к последнему СУДУ!
Днём и ночью от наших тел,можно слышать крики боли,из-за накопленных нашими душами грехов...
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You can say whatever you want, but this already clashes with the views of other users. If a Satanist registers on this site and starts praising the devil, I think many people won't like it, and you say that there is no God, and I don't want to hear or read that. The excuse "don't read it" won't work; there are many religions and views in the world, and you can keep your highly respected IMHO to yourself.
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There is no God. I simply don't believe in it. People just made it up. Religion implies something else – it would take too long to explain. Basically, God is within each of us. You do what you think is right.
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Looking at our world, one gets the impression that God, if he exists, has taken an indefinite vacation.
"Как видно, в аду есть и вход, и выход, коль скоро можно пройти через ад." Станислав Ежи Лец
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I think that God is just a product of our imagination or fantasies. Everything that seems incredible can now be explained scientifically! A person is the creator of their own life, and God is just a fiction!
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I believe that God is an illusion. If people spent less time on beliefs, rituals, religions, and religious wars, we would have made much more progress in technology. The saddest thing is that people cannot live without gods. There will always be religion. People need the awareness that someone powerful is watching over them, someone who will not abandon them in trouble. As one of the thinkers said, something like, "People need gods, otherwise they will go mad when they realize that they are alone in the Universe"... that's how it is. Many people pray simply for comfort, and this is where faith in an illusory something comes from.
Первый, кто был забанен за Правду.
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I believe that God is an illusion. If people spent less time on beliefs, rituals, religions, and religious wars, we would have advanced much further in technology. The saddest thing is that people cannot live without gods. There will always be religion. People need to feel that someone powerful is watching over them, someone who won't abandon them in trouble. As one of the thinkers said, something like, "People need gods, otherwise they will go mad when they realize they are alone in the Universe"... that's how it is. Many people pray simply for comfort. And this is where the belief in an illusory something comes from.
I agree with every word. In short, people need to believe in something, whether it's themselves, God, or fate, it doesn't matter. In my opinion, religion is a relic of the past. In the past, when they couldn't explain the cause of a particular phenomenon, the meaning of life, or other scientific and philosophical questions, they invented God or gods, depending on the religion. My opinion is that if faith makes life easier for even one person, then religion has the right to exist.
"Как видно, в аду есть и вход, и выход, коль скоро можно пройти через ад." Станислав Ежи Лец
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Not everything can be explained by science yet: bleeding icons, connections between souls, superpowers, etc., but that's not the point. God is a flexible concept; as you rightly pointed out, it can also be a source of comfort, because when a person is alone, they can only turn to God. Well, Draco's post, as I see it, explains everything clearly, but some people judge God as some kind of anthropomorphic entity, which leads to arguments.
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I am a staunch atheist, and I prefer the following statements:

I am God; I am the creator of my own life...

and (I don't remember exactly where, but I think it was said by Buddha)

Don't elevate those who have found their truth; seek your own...
Вы вечно молитесь своим Богам
И ваши Боги всё прощают вам...
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I believe God is in you and everywhere, but you yourself are not a god, so my motto has a lot of meaning in a philosophical sense.
Борьба и единство противоположностей -
вечный двигатель мира сего.
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I haven't read the entire thread.
Predvestnik;72409
I'm curious, do you believe in God? Do you pray or not? And so on.
Personally, I believe in God, I go to church, etc. I'll be honest, I can't follow all the rules...I would like to draw attention to this:
It seems to me that if EVERYONE followed the 10 commandments, life would be wonderful, or am I wrong? So, I urge everyone to follow them...but people will never listen, and they will continue to: kill, steal, cheat, and so on.

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Well said, you are absolutely right. I fully support you in this. But we should also add 3 components from the Bible:
1) faith
2) hope
3) love.
Чую время пришло и захлопнулась дверь
Ангел пропел и полопалась кожа...
Мы выпили жизнь, но не стали мудрей,
Мы прожили смерть, но не стали моложе...

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Ты должен быть сильным,
Ты должен уметь сказать: Руки прочь, прочь от меня,
Ты должен быть сильным, иначе зачем тебе быть?!

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