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7 years ago
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This thread is intended for discussing any questions related to the Favorites-11 tournament and will be active throughout the entire tournament.


Registration for the new Favorites is open :smile03: [/CENTER]

News will be published in the header of the tournament thread. All serious discussions, "for posterity," should take place here.
A little about what "discussions for posterity" are and how they work.

We would really like to find more co-hosts and judges.

Tentative agenda for discussions as of November 30, 2018

List of topics to discuss, which has been available since the creation of this thread:

1. Preserving the group stage while reducing the number of participants in each group to a maximum of 6 (the reasons have already been stated in the Regulations).
2. Rules for advancing from groups and the structure of the Transition Stage (section 2).
There are several new solutions – the reasons for these specific solutions are also indicated in the Regulations.
3. Everything about dialogue difficulties and odds (section 3).

p.s. The hero ban has been removed on mirror matches. Pure negotiation for the first pick.
Anarchy 160% or 200% - is there a difference?
p.p.s. Grand Final BO5 with a score of 1:0.

Reflecting on the experience after the tournament
7 years ago
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And what is the purpose of dividing the templates into groups: "Ludomania", "Combat", and "Esports"?
7 years ago
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Haha. Actually, it was left in by accident. But let it stay for now. It's interesting to read opinions on how accurate this assessment is. Right now, they don't have a direct impact on the tournament. In the final version of the Regulations, they can be safely removed.
Firstly, they symbolize a rough estimate of the degree of randomness in the layouts of these templates. Just in case, the group names are in quotation marks.
Secondly, and most importantly, the groups were added because there was initially an idea to make it possible to trade for templates.
By mutual agreement, participants can determine the template not by drawing lots, but by trading.
First, there is a bidding war for the right to choose one of the three groups of templates mentioned above ("gambling," "combat," and "esports"). The winner of the bidding war chooses a group, and the loser crosses out 1-2 templates from that group that they do not want to play (2 if there are 4 in the group), leaving the winner with 2 to choose from. The winner chooses one of the two remaining templates on which the game will take place.
The idea itself was very niche.
And in the end, I also came to the conclusion that more random templates can be paid for much more than "esports" templates, so for now, I have abandoned it.

But maybe it can be refined somehow here.
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7 years ago
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And what about restructuring the library, which isn't being implemented? There will be some interest in playing with the Tower and the library.

And regarding the Outpost of Heroes... 117 is fine for Jebus, maybe for 6LM, but for other builds (like SMK or Diamond), an earlier encounter is quite likely, so it's advisable to set the Outpost of Heroes to no more than 115. Making the Outpost of Heroes mandatory only from the later stages of the tournament is a good compromise, and I support that.
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7 years ago
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Tournament goals:
-to give Alfeyn and Ihromant the opportunity to play without Online Battles on the group stage.
7 years ago
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Reorganizing the library for the starting tower – that’s my first thought – Agreed. I just didn’t have time to pay attention to this nuance. For the sake of clarity, I’ll wait a few days for other arguments.
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7 years ago
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YaR
Tournament goals: - give Alfeyn and Ihromant the opportunity to play without Overtime on the group stage.
Not counted. I don't have problems with Overtime; I have problems with the speed of the game (standard timers). And these are completely different things. The topic about introducing Overtime in tournaments on SoD existed – opinions were divided. For the first case of using Overtime in an open tournament on SoD, this solution currently looks like a reasonable compromise.
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7 years ago
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Based on the current rules, restructuring the library will not be implemented. I think this is correct. But not for the starting Tower. Even with the restructuring option enabled, the opponent of the "Tower" player will also be able to use restructuring in the game, which is a lesser evil than prohibiting restructuring for the starting Tower.
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7 years ago
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If we're going to implement a change to the library rebuilding mechanic, it should be applied to everyone. It's not possible to programmatically disable library rebuilding for everyone except the starting tower. If a Necromancer has signed up for the tournament, then, of course, they should be allowed to play without the "Out of Harm's Way" skill until the 1/4 finals. I, for example, am not ready to sign up for a tournament under these conditions. At most, I would be willing to play without "Out of Harm's Way" only during the group stage (and even then, hoping for decent opponents).
7 years ago
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A question was raised behind the scenes: why is starting the tournament on Thursday better than, for example, on Tuesday, so as not to miss the first weekend? Just in case, I'll post the idea here.
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7 years ago
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caliban
and even then, hoping for decent opponents
What do you consider "decent"?
7 years ago
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these are not like Herolwy (in the sense of agreeing on the duration of the game).
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7 years ago
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Al Feyn
What do you consider "adequate"?
Those who respect each other's time.
To put it more clearly, even in the group stage, I would like opponents who will play with OH (presumably referring to "Over Health" or a similar game mechanic).
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7 years ago
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Russel_lDHl
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... the opponent of the "Tower" player will also be able to use restructuring in the game, which is a lesser evil than banning restructuring on the starting tower.

The opponent also needs to be lucky enough to have access to a nearby tower, and in addition, they need to capture it and, if necessary, defend it.
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7 years ago
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Sometimes, an opponent buys a Guardian Angel, but then, for example, has to leave for half an hour without making a move, or postpones the game every two days because of "urgent business."
But the worst offender is Ihromant; he doesn't respect us and refuses to buy a Guardian Angel. Let's harass him in every thread, reminding him that he's a cheapskate and that he doesn't respect us.

Guys, does my existence bother you? Or the fact that I live by the principle of "practice what you preach"? Honestly, we laughed about it 2-3 times, and I stayed silent. But wherever I go, YR, Caliban, or Dirty will always show up and remind me that I'm an idiot, a clinical case, and not getting treatment.

Every time, I try to play on time (sorry, Mikhail, I really slept until 3 PM yesterday, but we agreed to play "when I wake up"), as agreed, and I don't postpone without a good reason (3 AM, and I have to go to work in the morning, right?). In short, you don't care, and you'll continue until you force me to buy a Guardian Angel. This won't protect you from irresponsible opponents, but at least Ihromant won't be around. The original evil must be eradicated!

Thank you for your attention. You can continue writing your "nonsense."

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