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18 years ago
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Perpolken;109822

(IronAxe) - Regarding the comparison (of killed monsters).
I did have the learning skill, I spent more time in the dungeon, I killed the blue one (with
:) That's it! No more questions. I didn't have the learning skill - I couldn't get it, although I wanted to :)
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a good army). And most importantly, I took the trees at the very end, and that's a big plus! Because of these trees, I lost quite a few extra turns, armies, and money.
Well, I still tend to think that it's probably not necessary to take them at the very end. No - if there is such an opportunity, then it is, of course, better. But if I'm passing by and I know that the final is coming soon and I'm unlikely to have time to return here, then it's better to take it right away, in my opinion. In my opinion, my failure was rather due to the lack of the learning skill, and not because I didn't take the trees at the end. Well, I took the second tree almost at the end, taking into account that I couldn't get the quest bonus in the southeast :)
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(IronAxe) - Regarding the army transfer.
You got a little confused here. First (1-4-3), I killed the minotaurs (zone 3), the next day (1-4-4), the Hydras (+hut) in the same (zone 3). And then (1-4-5), I killed the Hydras (+hut 2) in zone 2. And how and with what, this is in my description with Kyle!
Yes, you're right, I'm a big original, I confused the southeast with the northeast, as well as the Cursed Armor with the Dragon Artifacts :) I corrected all this in my description. I can play more or less, but remembering all the names of spells and artifacts correctly is already beyond my capabilities :) Well, for me, it's more important not the names, but to be able to apply all this correctly in the game :)
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IronAxe - congratulations on second place, that's also great! Although it's more disappointing than being third!
Well, it's okay, I'll somehow endure it :) Well, since all the questions have been resolved, I congratulate you on your well-deserved victory. I just didn't realize that you might have had the learning skill :) I thought it wouldn't drop for anyone here :)
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A small question for IronAxe: where did you get the collection (artifacts of the Father of Dragons)? I didn't see the main parts of this collection on the map. Maybe I missed something? Sorry in advance for the slight nitpicking…
I don't remember exactly what it's called :) There were a lot of skulls. There were a lot of Cursed Shields, they were even sold in stores, Ribs were lying near the first monsters, which I, by the way, sometimes call Hippos, and blue swords (I got mine right near these monsters, near the yellow pillar, I think). From this, I assembled a thing that I somehow called the Dragon Artifacts - there was a black, scary face on the chest :) And I only attacked the first monsters with this artifact. And what does the Dragon Artifacts do? It seems to only increase all parameters by +6, or something? In my opinion, this artifact wouldn't help much on this map. But the Ring of the Magician and the Cursed Armor were great against the giants :)
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Soon Kyle will post the players' descriptions for review, if there are any questions for me, I will be happy to answer them (but not immediately), sorry in advance!
I won't have any more questions for you - everything is clear. The Walkthrough is good ;)
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18 years ago
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Here's the story: if you pick up Advanced Diplomacy by the eighth level, which is possible, then 122 Evil Eyes join 39 Harpies and 38 Evil Eyes for free (I had that many, maybe fewer Evil Eyes are enough, but they are necessary). I only crawled out into the light of day so early for this purpose.

Although I didn't send the save, I played only once (as a scouting mission), and put together a rough plan of action (for subsequent games). On the first attempt I gathered about 80k, on the second, knowing how to get 200k + extra turns, I started playing a second time... but got confused with the saves — gave up, and then didn't have time to play.

So I also fought the Elves early and along the way wiped out the Gold Dragons (+2 to all, not just lying around on the road:), I think by 1-2-4 or 1-2-5 I was already sitting in the boat, and I had almost 200 Evil Eyes and 70 Harpies. On the first week I built Harpies and Evil Eyes when I tried to play a second time, while the first time I didn't even have Troglodytes in the first week.
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18 years ago
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IronAxe;109831
Well, I'll somehow endure it. Now that all the questions have been settled, I congratulate you on your well-deserved victory. I just didn't realize that you might have had a tutorial. I thought it wouldn't be available to anyone here.
One of the main components was the TUTORIAL. Using "nwcneo" and visiting the witch huts, I found what I believe to be the most optimal development path.
1 - Wisdom (E)+Logistics(B) witch hut
2 - Logistics(A)
3 - Logistics(E)
4 - Learning (B)+Earth(B) witch hut
5 - Earth(A)
6 - Earth(E)
7 - Diplomacy (B)
8 - Diplomacy (A)
9 - Diplomacy (E)
10- Learning (A)
11- Intelligence
and after that, it doesn't really matter anymore, although I got Fire Magic - it came in handy!

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Although I didn't send the save file, I only played once (as a test run), and I created a rough plan of action (for future games). In the first playthrough, I scored around 80,000 points, and in the second, I knew how to get 200,000 points + extra turns. I started playing a second time... but I got confused with the save files and gave up, and then I didn't have time to play.
And that's not good, esteemed Mr. Alesha! You should have definitely sent the save file. I think you would have been among the top players.
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18 years ago
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Dear tournament participants,
something unexpected happened. Yesterday evening, my computer broke down.
I brought the hard drive to work today and will retrieve the information this evening.
Therefore, the results will be available only in the evening.
Also, I ask IronAxe and @JIN7_???$ to send me the data on experience, primary characteristics, and the amount of mercury via private message.

Please accept my apologies.
Sincerely.
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18 years ago
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Yeah... the player rating is ready to be calculated today – I can’t wait.
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18 years ago
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Kamikaze;109850
One of the main components was TRAINING. By going through "nwcneo" and visiting witch huts, I figured out what I believe to be the most optimal development path.
1 - Wisdom (E)+Logistics(B) witch hut
2 - Logistics(A)
3 - Logistics(E)
4 - Learning (B)+Earth(B) witch hut
I understand. But I was in a hurry to get to the sea as quickly as possible. As I already wrote, I defeated the Elves with a 1-1-6 strategy. Therefore, I didn't even bother checking what the huts offered. I hoped that training would appear naturally at some point. And in general, I didn't scout the map to see how to complete it with Arkhon on cheats. So, I hoped to get some kind of air jump, flight, or city gate. Therefore, just in case, I took the air skill. And I checked the magic in the fortresses during the playthrough, each time I captured a fortress, using cheats, of course, after making a clean save for scouting.
PS. By the way, I forgot to thank Kyle and the map developer. I liked the map. I don't know what was in the first version - I didn't even download it, but in the final version, I didn't see anything bad. I didn't even get angry at the end that I didn't find the super-movement magic I was looking for. :)
PSS. Kyle, I'll send the requested data to your PM on the forum right now.
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18 years ago
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IronAxe;109820
Can anyone explain in more detail about this issue with the clone?

I've encountered this issue several times myself. I even argued with Amber and, I think, with Kael about this clone thing; they told me to read the FizMig guide, but in reality, the clone disappeared much earlier than it should have. I think this depends on whether or not the unit has the Water skill, but I can't say for sure.

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I hoped that the training would appear naturally at some point. And in general, I didn't scout the map to see how to complete it with Arham on cheats. So I was hoping to get some kind of air jump, flight, or city gate. Therefore, just in case, I took the Air skill. And I checked the magic in the fortresses during the playthrough, each time I captured a fortress, using cheats, of course, after making a clean save for scouting.

Well, maybe someone else did the same (I mean, used cheats), although they could have just run through it. And regarding the magic: were you too lazy to go into the editor, or did you again use "infinite running" to find out that there's nothing good to be found? Why did you check this during the playthrough, and weren't you afraid of wasting time on it?
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18 years ago
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I've encountered the same issue multiple times. I even argued with Amber and, I think, with Kyle about this clone issue; they told me to read the Physics Manual, but in reality, the clone disappeared much earlier than it should have – I think this depends on whether or not the unit has the Water magic skill, but I can't say for sure.
So, now two of us are saying that there are cases where the clone DOES NOT last until the end of the battle. I checked this on both versions of The Shadow of Death. Will the experts on the Physics Manual clarify this situation or explain it more clearly? And maybe they'll even fix the Physics Manual :) and at the same time, they'll write our nicknames in small letters under the correction :)
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18 years ago
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I apologize for not being able to participate in the tournament.
I only managed to do some scouting:o

Congratulations to the winner!

I invite everyone to participate in the 8th stage of the Kanighem Memorial Tournament.
Show all your strength and power. Knowledge and experience will be very useful to you in this tournament;)

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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Well, maybe someone else did the same (I'm talking about using cheats), although they could have just rushed through. And regarding magic: were you too lazy to check the editor, or did you use the "infinite run" method to find out that there's nothing good to be found? Why did you have to check this during the playthrough, and weren't you afraid of wasting time because of it?
But the editor clearly indicates which magic can appear. And in general, I now try to complete any official map, especially large ones, in one go without scouting. I'm slowly preparing to try switching to online play next year :) And we'll see what happens after that.
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18 years ago
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But the editor clearly indicates which magic can appear. And in general, I now try to complete any official map, especially large ones, in one go without scouting. I'm slowly preparing to try switching to online play next year :) We'll see what happens after that.

Well, then it's clear. But I hope we don't lose you in offline mode :D?

And I always check the magic both during the game and in the editor. And the idea of first completing a map and then choosing a more rational way to complete it... unfortunately, it never even occurred to me...
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18 years ago
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I invite everyone to participate in the 8th stage of the Kanighem Tournament.
Best regards, VDV_forever
When will information about the 8th stage be available?
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Ley;109939
The idea of first completing a map and then choosing a more rational way to complete it didn't even occur to me...
This is the most correct way to play, but in reality, it's not always possible to complete it and then choose variations. You play, you play, and then suddenly you find a mistake. You load the save from the day before yesterday again and get back into the game... and so on in a loop.

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When will information about the 8th stage be available?
It's already available; please pay closer attention to the new topics.
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This is the most correct way to play, but in reality, it's not always possible to complete it, and then you have to choose variations. You play, you play, and then you suddenly find a mistake. You load the save from the day before yesterday again and go back into battle... and so on, in a loop.

Yes, I've already noted this for the future ;), I'll check it in the 8th stage :)

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