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What shall we name the establishment?
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“Flooding.” Simple and effective
17.9% 5 votes
Leave it as is – “Fludnyak”
7.1% 2 votes
“A den of debauchery.” How original!
39.3% 11 votes
Brewery
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Offline Siverfale
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Actually, I haven't seen a single forum that could re-educate a person (a child). A child can be instilled with new psychological attitudes, different from the old ones, in two ways: 1) By hitting them on the butt. 2) By teaching them to trust your experience and authority, and ideally, by making them like you. Neither of these points is fulfilled, so all attempts to re-educate Black are doomed to failure. If someone spent several hours each day chatting with him on ICQ, then there would still be some chance of success.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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Offline Повелитель Блэк
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a moral degenerate

That's what I'm becoming:D

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Out of all of you, only Ar and Moni have any authority over me; they are the only ones who have a chance of reforming me:D
Пара банок пива, снаряд дешевого пойла
Ракета прущего дыма и море свободы
Серьезные помыслы, прущие скорости, мама с вопросами:
- Куда ты дел совесть? Стань взрослым.
Я в ответ молчал виновато
- Посмотри на брата, разве трудно быть нормальным?
Им не понять меня, не поменять меня
Хотели поломать меня - им не поймать меня
В чем моя вина?
Думал бежать отсюда, хлопал дверями злобно -
Обида-паскуда
Мама била посуду и тихо плакала
Молилась за меня Богу - свечи ставила
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And you, Rimpi, don't act like a jerk unnecessarily.
I won't even mention the post from the previous page. It's uncomfortable for me to read because the size and font are too large, plus there's a lot of swearing. As I understand it from that previous thread, your position is that creativity is above meaning and cannot be meaningful or meaningless, am I right? If so, then I agree with you. But I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about the fact that providing a brief, poor-quality summary, and not even of the entire work, but only a part of it, and then asking for criticism and, after receiving it, getting offended is stupid.

"Let's fly to the most beautiful sky. No matter how many times your wings break, keep trying."©Crono Crusade

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See? And that’s because Aro and I are understanding and friendly people who don’t point fingers but treat everyone with empathy.
My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.
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Of all of you, only Ar and Moni command my respect.
Please note that previously, it was only Morny. Conclusion: he respects those who argue with me.

"Let's fly to the most beautiful sky. No matter how many times your wings break, keep trying."©Crono Crusade

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Of all of you, only Ar and Moni command my respect.
I always imagined Morning as the leader of a gang of young teenagers and youths just beginning to mature.
And Arandor simply appeals to all newcomers and children, because they have the same level of intellectual development.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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Morni, have some valerian. Blacky, change your ideals. And throw away your computer.
"Вот так и умирает свобода - под гром аплодисментов" ©

"Господа у вас вирусы, ворованная версия, кривые сидиромы или руки. Я точно не знаю, что именно, но думаю, что вас надо забанить" ©

"Великие умы обсуждают идеи. Средние умы обсуждают события. Мелкие умы обсуждают людей" ©
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As I understood from that previous discussion, your position is that Creation is above meaning and cannot be meaningful or meaningless, am I right?
Wow! It finally happened. This is exactly what I meant. This, and nothing else. The rest is not my business; it might be foolish, it might be clever, I haven't read the text and haven't delved into anything. But nevertheless, whether "providing a brief, poor-quality summary, and not of the entire work, but only a part of it" is foolish is a subjective assessment. In my opinion, it's no more foolish than anything else – it correlates with the title and meaning of the topic. Any further whining from Imaris is even more foolish.
Citing two posts out of seven hundred, written consecutively in a short period of time, is not the strongest evidence of "every other post" or "every other word."

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What's going on? I express something categorical, and they jump on me and say, "ololol calls everything he doesn't like garbage."
I express something completely non-categorical, and I'm accused of "ololol, being evasive, playing with words, an attempt at objectivity, which is not needed."
You can't please you.
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Morni, I understood you from the very beginning and tried to explain to you that it's foolish for me to think differently.
asking for criticism and then getting offended by it is foolish

Plus, you clearly have a grudge. You're bringing up old, already closed arguments, which means they bothered you, and you're holding a grudge. Turning your back on you becomes dangerous. I wrote, "consistently posting in every argument in bold caps and with a lot of swearing." And "every other word" is a figurative expression that perfectly describes post 40943.

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I'm expressing something that is absolutely not categorical.
This isn't a "non-categorical statement"; it's complete silence. You didn't state your opinion. And using other people's words without having your own is exactly what I mean by "empty talk."

"Let's fly to the most beautiful sky. No matter how many times your wings break, keep trying."©Crono Crusade

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This isn't a "non-categorical statement"; it's complete silence. You didn't express your opinion.
Regarding the story? I haven't read it, I've said it a hundred times. I only commented on your statement about its meaninglessness. That's all. Don't try to attribute arguments to me that I never even touched upon, accusing me of elaborating on them unnecessarily.
My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.
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Offline Повелитель Блэк
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The conclusion is that he has authority over those who argue with me.

Ar became an authority figure because this person has always been kind to me, and that's all.
Пара банок пива, снаряд дешевого пойла
Ракета прущего дыма и море свободы
Серьезные помыслы, прущие скорости, мама с вопросами:
- Куда ты дел совесть? Стань взрослым.
Я в ответ молчал виновато
- Посмотри на брата, разве трудно быть нормальным?
Им не понять меня, не поменять меня
Хотели поломать меня - им не поймать меня
В чем моя вина?
Думал бежать отсюда, хлопал дверями злобно -
Обида-паскуда
Мама била посуду и тихо плакала
Молилась за меня Богу - свечи ставила
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your statement about the meaninglessness of something.
Which didn't exist. "Don't try to attribute arguments to me that I never even touched upon."

"Let's fly to the most beautiful sky. No matter how many times your wings break, keep trying."©Crono Crusade

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Siv, despite your words about my level, I agree with this.
1) A good spanking.
2) Teaching him to trust your experience and authority, ideally also making him friendly towards you.
None of these points are being fulfilled, so all attempts to re-educate Black are doomed to fail. However, if someone were to chat with him on ICQ every day for several hours, then there would still be some chance of success.

Although the first option in its pure form will not lead to anything good either. I agree about ICQ; it can be used to discuss everything normally and point out shortcomings if necessary.

Be strong. Believe
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If he communicated with them on a daily basis for several hours, then there would be at least some chance of success.
It's not just about that; I meant that in this way (specifically with the conditions of "daily" and "frequent" communication), you would become more than just a random user from the forum to him; you would be a good acquaintance from the forum. And maybe even more.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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