Posts from Actaea

be willing to cooperate with me
besides, I don't have a dictatorship, unlike some others.

And we’re still essentially in the Arandor alliance, just without Ventorum.

Do not confuse the military-political bloc with the trade organization.

Instead of leaving Afta, you can simply declare a trade embargo against Ventorum. And there's nothing stopping you from trading with the others.

Instead of leaving Afta, you could simply declare a trade embargo against Ventorum.

But in Afta, there are Mushroom Fields, so nothing prevents Arconian tomatoes from being transported to Ventorum through them. This is often done in real life. And it's not certain that everyone will agree with such a decision.

why don't you cooperate with me?
besides, I don't have a dictatorship like some others.

Ah, so that's the issue you're waiting for, the cancellation of the dictatorship...

You don't have to leave Afta, you can simply declare a trade embargo against Ventorum. And there's nothing stopping you from trading with the rest.

Oh, if I had the old Mushroom government, it would gladly impose sanctions on everyone, especially Kittypink.

But in Afta, there are Mushrooms, right?

I've only expressed my desire so far; how I'll actually proceed is another question.

Only tomatoes will be more expensive with this type of transportation. An embargo can be temporarily imposed, simply to express a protest, so to speak.

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And only from the countries of KOSAP, of course.

a note of protest, so to speak.

Against what?

Against a sharp break in the military-political bloc based on far-fetched reasons.

Here's what I'm getting at. Let's say we all protest))) lol. I trade with Arcondia and the Mushroom Kingdom; the Mushroom Kingdom trades with Ventorum. I buy Arcondian tomatoes and sell them to the Mushroom Kingdom, which relabels them and sends them to Ventorum. In the end, the sanctions achieve nothing and end up costing us more. Isn't that inefficient and silly?

They will sell mushrooms at an inflated price, but we can still do business with other factions besides Ventorum. For example, we can start establishing relations with countries from another continent.

...and I can impose sanctions too. Peaceful ones. Atomic ones...
But seriously, Heroist is right.
And besides, Ventorum is a big country; can't he grow his own tomatoes? I have my own tomatoes; they were meowing and flying just yesterday.

Against the abrupt dissolution of the military-political bloc for far-fetched reasons.

I laughed at the duplicity of political standards – it's just like in real life.

You didn't recognize the state (if it weren't for the votes of Kittypink and Greatwater, Rex Ventorum wouldn't have the right to be in the Security Council, not even because he's pursuing a "bad policy," but simply because this state is being refused recognition at the political level), but you managed to start issuing some kind of ultimatum. As for "which of the two Ventorums is legitimate," the answer is simple: the one who holds power; moreover, as was written, the current consul of the FRRV hasn't gone anywhere, and therefore the secretary of security didn't actually have the authority to represent this country.

I don't think these are far-fetched reasons, and for the current leadership of the country, it's outright treason. The military-political bloc may not imply absolute agreement among members on every issue, but putting obstacles in the way of an ally is a different matter.

Actually, I'm saying this not to somehow change the relations between countries in the game (it's quite possible that such tension will positively affect activity and interest), but to point out that at the level of relations and at the level of political ethics, my country's decision was absolutely justified.

I think, Kosha, you'll change your mind because since Ventorum left KOSAP, our characters have been left without funding. There's a reason to impose sanctions on Ventorum, and a strong one at that.

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It wasn't about recognition; it was about excluding Ventorum from the Security Council, which we didn't actually recognize. So, we actually made a decision in favor of the new Ventorum by not interfering, and the fact that you interpreted it differently just shows that you didn't frame the question correctly at the Council.

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If we had voted FOR non-recognition, that would have meant non-recognition. But since we're not interfering, it means we're not obstructing and letting them sort out their own affairs, but we're not supporting them either.

we can raise the issue of excluding Ventorum, and if the majority supports it, then no amount of votes from Kittypink Greatwater will help.

And to avoid complications, we can create a new alliance instead of AFTA, and that's it.