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That's exactly the point, I used an exaggerated value in my example. Now imagine how many monsters the enemy will have by the time you level up to 50? Accordingly, a less developed hero will face smaller armies—but proportionally, the situation remains the same.
In my opinion, it's generally impossible to actually reach level 50, unless you visit 50 wisdom trees in a row or arenas
Regarding being "leveled up," that's not entirely true, because other skills are leveled up as well, at least combat; and go ahead, blast everyone with Armageddon for all they're worth—it doesn't affect Efreet or own Demons, but it deals 1000 HP damage)

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A fully leveled hero is strong with any magic:)


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It seems impossible to reach level 50, unless you visit 50 Wisdom Trees in a row or play in the arena.

In campaigns, it's quite achievable. I managed to reach the maximum level, which is 70. This hero possessed all magic skills except for Haven. Instead, he had Tactics.
Here's what he could do:
- Disintegrate: 2816 damage
- Chain Lightning: 2048
- Suffocate: 2304
- Lightning: 1792
- Fireball: 1280
- Armageddon, Inferno, Fireball: 1024
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In campaigns, it's actually quite possible... I leveled up to the maximum, i.e., level 70. At the same time, this was a hero possessing all magic skills except for Haven. Instead, he had Tactics.
So, here's what he could do:
- Disintegrate: 2816 damage
- Chain Lightning: 2048
- Suffocate: 2304
- Lightning: 1792
- Fireball: 1280
- Armageddon, Inferno, Fireball: 1024
In short, it's insane!


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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
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В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
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It would be interesting if Haven replaced Tactics. With its magic, I think it would make everything even better. There's something to strive for... :)
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It would be crazy if Haven replaced Tactics. With its magic, I think it would make everything even stronger =) There's something to strive for... :)
No, if it were Haven, it would be easier).


Барон
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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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I don't quite understand, which faction allows you to reach level 70? =/
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I think it applies to any! I level up almost all of them... it's just that the one I mentioned was the last campaign I played. Not a licensed one, but the campaign for King Arthur (Excalibur). But Bob was stronger because he had all the magic skills. And here, tactics hindered me...
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I haven't played many fan-made campaigns. Is Bob the mage Bohb from TGS? I had a hard time leveling up in his campaign... Bohb's versatility was a challenge for me - not only did all kinds of magic appear when leveling up in such an annoying way that it was even difficult to reach the expert level, but the inability to take a fight made him extremely vulnerable.
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And healing!!!!!!!!!!!
Молчал так долго, что забыл о чём именно
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I think in any! I almost level up in all of them... it's just that what I mentioned was the last Campaign I played. Not a licensed one, the Campaign about King Arthur (Excalibur). But Bob was stronger with me because he had all the magic. And here, Tactics hindered...
Bob couldn't be stronger when all the magic skills are a disadvantage for the hero! The hero dies almost in the first round, there is no armor, and magic hits him hard. When I played through the Campaign about him and his friends, I leveled them all up to level 40, but with almost all skills, and I had a hard time with Bob, having to close him out, then resurrect him, no, it's better to have 3-4 magic skills plus Tactics or Combat

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I haven't played many custom Campaigns.

Is Bob the mage Bohb from TGS? I actually had a hard time leveling up in his Campaign... Bohb's versatility became a difficulty for me - not only did all kinds of magic drop when leveling up in such an unpleasant way that it was even difficult to level up to Expert, but the inability to take Combat made him extremely vulnerable.
Exactly, but it's not difficult to raise his magic to Master, there are Institutes, I managed to max out all his magic skills, there are a lot of Institutes and Conservatories on the maps. But he is weak... uuuuuu


Барон
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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
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Не думай, что будет потом,
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It's doubtful that nature surpasses Haven in magic, as it doesn't even have spells to dispel magic.
And healing!
Молчал так долго, что забыл о чём именно
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And healing!
What does this have to do with anything? Haven doesn't have it either.

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Bob couldn't be stronger; having all magic skills is actually a disadvantage for the hero! The hero dies almost in the first round, has no armor, and magic hits him hard. When I played through the campaign about him and his friends, I leveled them all up to level 40, with almost all skills, but I struggled with Bob every time, having to close him out, then resurrect him. No, it's better to have 3-4 magic skills plus tactics or combat.

Bob couldn't be weak if he had all his magic skills maxed out. My Arthur had around 800 HP (somewhere between 770-80). So, he definitely couldn't be defeated in the first round. And in general, it's hard to defeat him, considering that he also has an army, artifacts, his spells (both summoning spells and curses/blessings), and, if necessary, also the Book of Bod.
For me, it's a pleasure. And there's no need to protect him. But I repeat, this is the limit, the maximum.
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Pandora;101194
Bob couldn't be weak if he had all his magic skills maxed out. My Arthur had around 800 health (somewhere between 770-80). So, he definitely wouldn't be defeated in the first round. And in general, it's hard to take him down, considering he also has an army, artifacts, his spells (both summoning spells and curses/blessings), and, if necessary, the Amulet of Life.
It's a real pleasure for me. And he didn't need any protection. But I repeat, this is the limit, the maximum.
Even with 1000 health, what about the number of monster units at that point? Surely 2000 damage won't be dealt! And if you attack a large group of Djinns or Sorceresses without at least some magic resistance, the mage won't survive to the second round...

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By the way, in my opinion, it's much more effective if the heroes' magic skills are divided, that is, the mage has 3-4 main magic skills + combat, and the combat hero has, for example, combat + tactics, 1-2 magic skills (one Life magic, and the second to complement it), and nobility or scouting in the 5th skill. The difference is small... This is a very effective combination, any Castle becomes the strongest then, whether it's Death or War... or almost any


Барон
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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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Even with 1000 HP, what's the number of monster units at that point? Surely 2000 damage will be dealt!

Well, he waved it off, 2000 damage.

I agree about the split. It's very effective. In general, it's good when there are two heroes in the army. Then the army is stronger.

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