Posts from Voting for the location of the CIS-2107 tournament.

Is the idea with points unclear? Do you want to establish a specific weight for a person within the community? Or are you trying to gauge the opinion of those voting? These seem to be different goals, don't they?

do you want to establish a person's weight in the community? or find out the opinion of the voters?

those are kinda different goals, aren't they?

The goals have been stated more than once, kinda. The selection of the venue for CIS-2017 (which, thanks to the efforts of several individuals, may now not happen at all). Moreover, the selection should be made by a qualified voter. That is - there should not be a situation where a bunch of people who have never attended a CIS event before swoop in, and based on their "opinion" - one city or another is chosen as the venue. CIS has a target audience, people who travel regularly. And it's only natural that the opinion of, say, Hellight should carry more weight than the opinion of Tamara Petrovna, a housewife from Khanty-Mansiysk who hasn't left the house in two years...

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It's better to calculate points as follows:
Zero attendances 1 point
One attendance 3 points
2 - 4
3 - 5
4 - 6
5 - 7
6 - 8
7 - 9

Oh, really? You first had to turn the HeroesWorld forum into a WT chat (because if you think about it - Bertvolga also became active because HeroesWorld started resembling a WT chat), only to then, weeks later, start writing something constructive?..

In this form, it all seems fine, I suppose.

My 35 points, naturally, go to Volgograd's application, since I've already voted and I'm not going to flip-flop (that's not according to the code).
Selecting multiple options - I disagree. We are choosing a host city. Not two-three-ten host cities (that's like voting for two or three presidents). And in any case, what do you plan to do in case of roughly equal votes? Until the criteria for a winning application are established, the bickering will continue.
Everyone can check the average budgets in the relevant application threads.
And plane tickets, in the meantime, have started getting more expensive...

I agree with asm regarding multiple choices. Why is the option "I'll go to both places equally" valid, but the option "I'll go to both places equally, but not to that place" is not? Both asm and mee would go to Korolev and Yekaterinburg, but not to Volgograd, while Redwait would go to Volgograd and Korolev, but not to Yekaterinburg. And what does "approximate equality" mean? Equality either exists or it doesn't.

Equality either exists or it doesn't.

Roma, look. Here's an example of a situation. 34%-33%-33% (meaning all entries get roughly the same number of votes, and in this situation, there is no objective winner). And then what? Then the argument will continue, but on a larger scale.
Asm and Romantic expressed support for multiple choices.
I expressed opposition to multiple choices.

Roma. Look. Here's an example of a situation. 34%-33%-33%. And what happens then?

That means 34 wins :)

So, 34 wins :)

Is that funny to you?
They announced the voting in advance, they voted, they chose Volgograd. Then two or three planted agents caused some kind of commotion in the stands to distract attention and buy a little time. And now - two weeks have been lost, wasted! I'll write a memoir in a separate thread...

Is that funny to you?

Who's laughing? It's math. 34 is greater than 33. And there are really a lot of Merlin in this thread now; did they give you responsibility for the CIS region or something? Has he become your personal tournament? I don't see any posts from those who voted for the winning entry in the first round, Volgograd; you just won't let it go. We're waiting for Vitya's price list, we'll hold a vote, and then we'll summarize the results.
The one who's fussing the most about the tickets is the one who's paying for them, or are you worried about our money?

Who's laughing? It's math. 34 is more than 33. And there are really a lot of Merlin fans in this thread; did they give you the CIS region to manage? Has he become your personal tournament? I don't see any posts from those who voted for Volgograd, the winner of the first vote; you just won't let it go. We're waiting for Vitya's price list, we'll hold a vote, and then we'll summarize the results.

There are really a lot of Merlin fans in this thread, the resurrected brothers-acrobats from the WT hell, the incoherent Sladyish-Bert, plus hordes of trolls chanting: "Get him, get him!" And all attempts to steer everything towards constructive discussion end in another mess, just like in the WT chat.
I repeat, do you seriously think that with this (or a similar) situation, it will be a fair and objective decision?

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Are you worried about our money?

Only about yours personally.

In this thread, there are a lot of Merlin, resurrected from the WT-hell by the acrobatic brothers, the incoherent Sladyash-Bert, plus a crowd of trolls chanting: "Get him, get him!". And all attempts to steer everything towards constructive discussion end up in another mess, just like in the WT chat.
I repeat, do you seriously think that with such a situation (or a similar one), this would be a fair and objective decision?
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All trolls, just one Merlin d'Artagnan :) In the "Player of the Year" nomination, Gomunguls defeated Cobra by 1 vote, but he still won, so why can't 1 vote decide the fate of the CIS region?

Roma described the multi-choice issue accurately.

Look. For example, this situation occurs: 34%-33%-33%.

How would the absence of multi-choice eliminate such a situation?

And now - two weeks have been lost, wasted!

Are you acting like a sellout, pandering to a client? Two days have passed since the end of your ephemeral "vote." Vitia had warned in advance that there was another viable option that people had expressed interest in. Tomorrow, he will announce the full details. Then we will choose the base.

In the player of the year nomination, Gomunguls defeated Cobra by 1 vote, but he still won, so why can't 1 vote decide the fate of the CIS region?

To be honest, looking at that poll, my first thought was - who organized it so poorly? 1/3 of the votes determined the winner. And there was plenty of time. Why couldn't they have a second round? It's a rather unconvincing victory with 1/3 of the votes. I think we should remember who created the topic, so that in the future, if possible, we don't participate in such projects and don't hope for anything good. I've remembered it. :D But the weighted voting system worked better. I'm thinking about it. :o

Asm is absolutely right about the multiple choice option.

I mentioned it myself. Asm and Romantic expressed their support for the multiple choice option.
Merlin expressed his opposition to the multiple choice option.

Let's set up a poll to see if multiple selections are needed:D

To be honest, looking at that poll, my first thought was – who organized it so poorly? 1/3 of the votes determined the winner. And there was plenty of time. Why couldn't they have a second round? It's a rather unconvincing victory with only 1/3 of the votes. I think we should remember who created the topic so that in the future, we don't entrust them with anything and don't expect anything good. Noted. :D

Another d'Artagnan has crawled out :) Before you start rambling in an inappropriate topic, you should look at how these polls were conducted in previous years. There was a standard amount of time, 10+14, and I don't understand what 1/3 of the votes has to do with it.
PS I'm also a moderator, just like Kirill, and you won't be able to ignore me either, and I can give penalty points for spamming ;)

Am I correct in understanding that the CIS event is being organized solely for a target audience of 10-15 people? (people who will actually have a significant impact on this vote?)
Because if so, then all the fuss above becomes at least somewhat understandable.

I perfectly understand that the decision to hold the event should be based on the people who have already attended the CIS event. Of course, the probability that they will attend such an event again is much higher, but no one has canceled "oh, something came up," "I/my mother/my child got sick, I can't go," "oh, they won't give me leave," and 99 other possible reasons for canceling the trip, both for "Virtuals," as Comrade Ams put it, and for real people.

This post is about the fact that for most viewers and a significant number of players, it will be much easier to use Moscow as the final destination, rather than as a transfer point, and if there is an easier option, why overcomplicate things?
And if that's the case, then the overwhelming majority of newcomers, as well as a number of players, judging by the previous vote, based on their schedule, ability to get there, etc., will not be able to outweigh the 35 votes of the highly respected Comrade Merlin, which, I repeat, is a bit strange in terms of community development, at the very least.

I want to be understood correctly, I support the idea of dividing the weight of the votes, I just ask that it be made more realistic.
Thank you, and stay healthy so that the CIS event doesn't fall through.