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CIS 2017?
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Multiple choice Public votes Closed 2017-01-24
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I would go to Sochi
32.2% 19 votes
I would go to Yekaterinburg
39% 23 votes
Ready to go anywhere
16.9% 10 votes
The most important thing is the price
16.9% 10 votes
I’m not going to CIS
10.2% 6 votes
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Guys, it's mid-January, and there's practically no information about CIS 2017. I'd like to know if there are any people interested in organizing it, even though it's not a particularly rewarding task. Or should we start making other plans for May? If anyone is considering it, please post in this thread. The main thing is not to delay, as it's very difficult to organize such an event in just a couple of months. Maybe some helpers will appear. I can offer advice based on my experience organizing CIS 2016, so that we don't repeat the same mistakes.
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MerlinTheMagician
What does "seeding" participants mean? Are you going to take blood samples for "seeding"? You need to understand that preliminary rounds and all that are no longer relevant. In our format, where "whoever can comes," we get about 20 players at most. What kind of group stage are you talking about? How many rounds is it planned for? Don't waste points inventing unnecessary things that no one needs. You'll scare away the audience.
Kirill, a tournament with seeded participants is a voluntary tournament to determine the tiers (strong and weak). The tiers are used for the draw, and it's done so that strong players (Reddy vs. Lucky 2016) don't play against each other in the first round, and so that there are a maximum of 2 such players in a group (groups of 4 people).

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Wicc
Why 10 days? :eek:

This isn't a tourist trip; it's primarily a tournament. Therefore, the minimum program is just the tournament days, and those who want to arrive earlier or leave later can plan their own budget.

The tournament will have 4 or 5 rounds, which can definitely be done in 6 days.
There will be approximately 7 rounds. Why 9 days: 7 days for the tournament + 1 day for the opening (poker) + 1 day for the closing.
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7 rounds, 9 days – for me personally, that’s definitely too much; I won’t be able to take that much time off.
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freesha

approximately 7 rounds are planned.

isn't the number of participants planned for the CIS region a bit too high? )))

I apologize in advance for the question, it might have already been asked, and unfortunately, we are not personally acquainted: will the initiative group and you, as the head of the Ekaterinburg 2017 application, have the financial means to pre-pay for the base rental and other expenses (and there will be many), since it is not worth relying on advance payments for accommodation/tournament fees.
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freesha
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were there any options closer than 45 km? Is the price difference significant?:smile02:

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freesha
Guys, read carefully!!!!! The simplest option is number 5300 for 6 people per day with breakfast = 835 rubles per person per day with breakfast, and as a result, 7497 for 9 days!!!! Last year you paid more for less time and without breakfast.
Still, it's more correct to compare double rooms. Last year we didn't stay in five-person rooms (that would have been quite an experience, I'm sure).
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Не стремясь приобщиться к основам пришёл.
В прошлый раз утащил я молитвенный коврик,
Он истерся до дыр, - я за новым пришёл.

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7 rounds, 9 days, for me personally, that's definitely too much – I won't be able to take that much time off :(
Roma, you don't have to plan to reach the final. Let's be realistic, I, for example, am not sure I can )) No one stops you from calmly dropping out, having a drink, relaxing, and going home :smile02:

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It's still more accurate to compare double rooms. Last year, we didn't stay in five-person rooms (that must have been quite an experience, I'm sure).
Well, I understand there's a choice, so everything is fine on that front:rolleyes:

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Roma, you don't necessarily have to plan to reach the final. Let's be realistic, I, for example, am not sure I can )) No one stops you from calmly dropping out, having a drink and a snack, and then going home :smile02:
Based on my own experience, I can say that this is a very bad idea. Once, I came to St. Petersburg, and it turned out that I was in excellent shape, and in the semi-finals, I had to get up from the computer in the middle of an unfinished match, where I was already far ahead, and go to the train station. It was a very sad experience, and it "doesn't suit us at all."
Now I understand that I shouldn't have gotten up and left. I should have called work and taken a couple more days off, made arrangements. Nothing would have collapsed without me.
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Al Feyn

Now I realize that I shouldn't have gotten up and left. I should have called work and taken a couple more days off, arranged it. Nothing would have collapsed without me.
That's the thought. Which I was just about to tell you. That's the best way to plan things.

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freesha
Total: 20200 rubles. For everything with full board!!!!
Well, I calculated roughly the same, but for 10 days. In principle, the prices are normal. It turns out to be more expensive because they used to allocate less time for the CIS region, so maybe 9 days is too much. As a viewer, I'm not sure what there would be to do during all that time. And the participants will probably have their own opinions... ;)
oxygen_hl
It's still more correct to compare double rooms. Last year, we didn't stay in five-person rooms (that would have been quite an experience, I'm sure).
Oh, hello :) Yes, I just calculated the budget option to have something to compare it to. There are other options, but the prices are like in Paris, if you believe DD :)
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//moved to a separate thread//
Volgograd CIS 2017 Application
/topic/12240/
Приглашаю всех сыграть Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft, мой батлтэг Alexxl#2103, кидайте приглашение, рад буду перекинуться в картишки))
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Why is an entire day allocated for check-in and check-out? I don't know how it is at this venue, but in hotels, rooms are usually rented on a daily basis, with check-in in the middle of the day and check-out also in the middle of the day. For example, if the tournament games are scheduled for the 20th-24th (5 rounds), then check-in on the 19th during the day and check-out on the 25th during the day, totaling 6 days according to the price list.
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Alexxl, that was quick :)

I didn't see the price list for meals. And could you please indicate, for better clarity, what the total cost of the boarding in a standard room with three meals a day will be (including weekends and holidays) + conference hall. Just like we calculated earlier for Yekaterinburg. I think it will be immediately clear and understandable for everyone.
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So, Merlin's vote about the tournament dates doesn't matter?..

Combining the location and time (as in the quote) almost certainly doesn't allow for defending the title, and that's very disappointing.

I ask Freesha & Co to consider the possibility of holding the tournament from 06-07.05 to... Thank you.
The dates can be changed, the price will remain the same (it won't be increased), there will just be fewer days for the tournament, and in the case of the 14th, many people have work on the 15th, so I was thinking of holding it until the 8th.
But ultimately, it's up to the community to decide.
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Hello everyone! I want to express my great respect to the people who are trying to organize CIS17! Organizing such events is always a tedious, expensive, and nerve-wracking undertaking – there will be a lot of nervousness, distrust, and dissatisfaction from some of those who are planning to come to the forum, and most often, they will change their minds at the last moment. First of all, I would like to say what I personally like and dislike about Toliman's proposal regarding the championship in Yekaterinburg: Let's start with the good: 1) I see Yekaterinburg as a unique city, a place where many well-known and active Heroes players live, who are proposing their city as the venue for the meeting, and will undoubtedly do everything possible and impossible to make this championship a success. 2) Excellent geographical location – the logistics routes have long been established and are accessible to players from Siberia, the Far East, the European part of Russia, and Belarus; I hope also for Ukraine. 3) A pretty cool venue – as a place to hold the championship. 4) And in general – the Ural Mountains are a great place (hello, Lizardu). What I don't like: Let's hope that the official application for Yekaterinburg has not yet been submitted, because: 1) The dates for the championship have not been determined – by a simple majority of future participants (further, as Merlin would say, everything is clear and understandable – whatever dates the majority chooses, the organizers will organize the event according to these dates). 2) 45 km from the city is very far – did you even consider other venues? 3) I have been diligently searching for 6-bed rooms on the website for two days, but I can't find them! Maybe I'm not looking in the right place? I see 4-bed rooms, but not 6-bed rooms! As Oxy rightly said, 6-bed rooms are not being considered at all as an option; the price should be calculated based on the price of a 2-bed room, which is about 1700 on average, taking into account weekend prices. Two years ago in Volgograd, even 1000 was considered too expensive. 4) Football and volleyball are paid (1000 per hour), as far as I understand, there are no free barbecues, the place for the barbecue and the coal are also paid, as is the place where you can eat – and the prices there are quite reasonable. In short, it's all a bit unclear. 5) I looked at the prices for the conference hall – I don't understand what you mean by "a thousand" – the prices are astronomical. A thousand per day per person? Or a thousand per participant for, say, 7 days of rental, and if there are not 40 participants, but 20, 30? Including the rental of audio-video equipment? With 24-hour access? 6) As a result, the venue will be too expensive for many, unfortunately. Lyrical sub-item: With the right organization of the championship, taking into account the dates and prices, I think each CIS championship should attract about 40 people. Of these 40 people, 20 don't even play Heroes! 10 of the remaining 20 lose interest in it within 1-3 days after the start of the tournament! And these are still understated figures. What the heck are 7 rounds? You still have to manage to play 5 rounds in 7 days. Most people go there to relax. And again, the number of rounds depends on the duration of the event – on May 9th, I don't think anyone wants to sit around and practice Necromancy. In conclusion, I would say – resolve all the nuances quickly, conduct 3-5 day polls (there is no need to wait a month – everyone looks at the topic every half hour anyway) and provide objective and timely information. Good luck!

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