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Pfft, you know how much effort I can put in and how hard I actually try. It doesn't count.

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Let's start with questions on my favorite topic - redirection. 1. Is the target notified when it is redirected? 2. Is the target notified about where exactly it was redirected to? 3. Aeon used redirection, choosing Born as the target. Born used redirection, choosing Aeon as the target. Vasya decided to use a Night Duel on Born or Aeon. What will happen to Vasya? 4. a) Can Phagus redirect one target for two nights in a row? b) to one target for two nights in a row c) redirect the target to itself (mirroring) d) redirect the target to itself (i.e., to Phagus)? Probably not, but just in case. 5. Is the second nickname in the redirection the target of Phagus (i.e., will Phagus be a guest for this player)? 6. a) In general, is the priority strict or not - that is, can any Night Duel affect turns that are higher in priority? b) and how do Night Duels affect each other if they are on the same turn (hello to the third question - maybe the answer is already there)? 7. Phagus redirects Vasya to Petya. Nereus uses a mind-altering spell on Phagus. What is the outcome? 8. Let's say one of the targets of the duel cannot be redirected due to a passive ability or a potion of power. Is this a failed duel, or will the second target still be redirected? 9. I understand that if multiple redirection effects are applied to a target, they are all applied according to priority, and the final target is determined by the latest redirection. 10. If a target has multiple targets (because it is using two Night Duels, or because its Night Duel has more than one target by default - a duel, Phagus's redirection (?)) - which one of them will be changed? 11. a) Are there any restrictions on Night Duels of the type "cannot target the same target for N nights in a row"? b) If there are, what will happen if a Night Duel is redirected to a target that cannot be chosen that night because it has already been targeted by that Night Duel for N nights?
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Master, I have a couple more questions.
1. If a Town Member is killed while residing in another player, is that considered eviction? I mean, if they die from someone's check or something else.
No, it isn't.
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2. If protection and kill are applied to a Town Member, is only the protection considered applied, or the kill as well?

Only the protection. The kill doesn't reach its target.

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Let's start with questions about my favorite topic - redirection.
1. Is the target notified in case of redirection?
No.
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2. Is the target notified about where they are being redirected to?
No.
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3. Aeon used redirection, choosing Born as the target. Born used redirection, choosing Aeon as the target. Vasya decided to use a Night Action on Born or Aeon. What will happen to Vasya?
He will go where Bjorn directs him.
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4. a) Can Fagus redirect one target for two nights in a row?
b) on one target for two nights in a row
c) redirect the target to itself (mirroring)
d) redirect the target to himself (i.e., Fagus)? Probably not, but just in case.
a, b - yes; c, d - no.
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5. Is the second nickname in redirection the target of Fagus (i.e., will Fagus be a guest for that player)?
No.
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6. a) In general, is the priority strict or not - that is, can any Night Action affect actions that are higher in priority?
b) and how do Night Actions that are on the same step affect each other (hello to the third question - maybe the answer is already there)?
a) no
b) what is listed first goes first.
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7. Fagus redirects Vasya to Petya. Nereus uses a stun on Fagus. Outcome?
Fagus redirects himself to Petya. This is prohibited by the rules, the action does not work.
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8. Let's say one of the targets of the duel cannot be redirected due to a passive ability or because of a potion of power. Is this a failed duel, or will the second target still be redirected?
Only one target will be redirected.
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9. I understand that if several redirection effects are applied to a target, they are all applied according to priority, and the final target is determined by the latest redirection.
Yes.
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10. If a target has multiple targets (because they are using two Night Actions, or because their Night Action has more than one target by default - a duel, Fagus's redirection (?)) - which one of them will be changed?
Only the first action in order is changed. The same applies to tracking and checks like Night Actions.
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11. a) Are there any restrictions on Night Actions of the type "cannot target the same player for N nights in a row"?
b) If there are, what will be the result of redirecting a Night Action to a target that cannot be chosen this night because that Night Action has already been applied to them for N nights?
There are no restrictions
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In that case, the Town might be even more vulnerable than I thought. Okay, so the vigilante is actually helpful to the town.)

And here's another question.
4) Does the Night Watchman have to send out every night?
Is "I'm staying home and doing nothing" an acceptable Night Watchman action?
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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P&G. Sincerely, Gur
"Пришел, увидел и пропил..."

Хай Гурий Слесарь
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Sberbank. x)
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

(Закон сохранения).
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Fagus changes himself into Pet. This is prohibited by the rules, and the action does not take effect.
Result: Fagus fails. Am I right? (yes, I should ask again)
only the first action in order is changed. The same applies to stalking and checking the type of ND.
When doubling, the player has two actions, which may well have the same order. How do we select the first one?
By the way, there is also a question here: does doubling an ND necessarily mean the same ND on different targets, or can two different actions be applied?
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Source: Fagus-fail. Am I right? (yes, I need to ask again)
Yes
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When doubling, the player has two actions, which may well have the same order. How do we choose the first one?
By the way, there's a question here - does doubling the number of actions necessarily mean the same action for different purposes, or can you apply 2 different actions?

They can be different. In this case, I clarify with the player which action he applies first

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And here's another question. Is the action "I'm sitting at home doing nothing" accepted?
Yes
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He will go wherever Bjorn directs him to.
b) what is indicated first, happens first.
I see a contradiction. Do you remember the example with the dragons sending each other? In this case, Aeon acted first, sending everyone (including Bjorn) to Bjorn. Thus, Bjorn was sending everyone to himself. If this is an illegal move, Bjorn fails. If it's legal, it's a success, but the essence remains the same - regardless of whether Vasya was initially going to Bjorn or Aeon, he should have ended up with Bjorn, and not where Bjorn was sending him (i.e., to Aeon). Where is the flaw in my logic?
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I see a contradiction. Remember the example with the dragons sending units to each other.
In this case, Aeon acted first, sending everyone (including Bjorn) to Bjorn. Thus, Bjorn was sending everyone back to himself. If this is an illegal move, Bjorn fails. If it's legal, it's a success, but the essence remains the same - regardless of whether Vasya was initially sent to Bjorn or Aeon, he should have ended up with Bjorn, and not where Bjorn sent him (i.e., to Aeon).
Where is the flaw in my logic?

Aeon sent units to Bjorn; this action is already completed. Then Bjorn sends them back; Aeon has already made his move.
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Aeon sent it to Bjorn, this action is already completed. Then Bjorn sends it back, and Aeon has already moved.
Once again, for the slow-witted:
why doesn't the transfer from Aeon affect Bjorn?

And am I correct in understanding that if, as a result of any combination of transfers, the player ends up on their own space, they fail?
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Once again, for the slow-witted:
Why doesn't Eon's ability affect Bjorn?

And am I correct in understanding that if, as a result of any combination of transfers, the player ends up back at their starting point, they fail?

Let's go through it step by step:

Act 1: Vasya goes to Eon, Eon sends him to Bjorn, Vasya goes to Bjorn

Act 2: Bjorn, having an action lower in the order of initiative, sends Vasya to Eon. When Vasya arrives at Eon, that action has already been completed, and he remains there. No time jumps.

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And am I correct in understanding that if, as a result of any combination of transfers, the player ends up back at their starting point, they fail?

An action that leads back to oneself is only successful in the case of the "Drunkenness" spell.
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I don't know how else to phrase this question. They've forgotten about Vasya. Aeon - everyone is going to Bjorn. Bjorn - everyone is going to Aeon. Bjorn's goal is Aeon. He needs to be under Aeon's control and go to himself. Why isn't this happening?
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I don't know how else to ask this question. They forgot about Vasya.
Aeon - everyone goes to Bjorn.
Bjorn - everyone goes to Aeon.
Bjorn's goal is Aeon. He needs to be under Aeon's influence and go to himself. Why isn't this happening?

Dragons don't go anywhere when they are sent away; they stay at home.
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Dragons don't go anywhere when they're sent away; they stay home.
That's what it is, Mikhailich. Monitoring the dragon will show that it stayed home. And why does the effect only apply in the case of "drunkenness," when there's also the ultimate ability of the light-aligned heroine – the mirror of dark magic. In general, I've more or less figured out the redirections. Let's move on to something else.
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That's the thing, Mikhailich. Tracking the dragon will show whether it stayed at home.

And why the effect only applies to itself when under the influence, when there's also the ultimate ability of the light-aligned heroine – a mirror of dark magic.

Anyway, I've more or less figured out the redirections. Let's move on to something else.

Yeah, I forgot about her.
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